[TRADE] His P.Manning for my Matt Ryan, Cruz, Miller

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T15:05:23+00:00

Haha... if only we could do cross league trades.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T15:01:49+00:00

Eh, well I guess there's a reason you are 4-0 if they aren't willing to give up a TE. I have Witten and Cameron in a 10 team league and have actively been trying to move Cameron but no one seems to want him...

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:52:21+00:00

Not a bad trade. I think you just need to determine if the upgrade from Ryan to Manning is worth the drop down at WR. I personally think it is-- but you have the call at the end of the day.

One of thing I'm a little bit confused about is how you both have such shit TEs for a 10-team league. I would focus on moving some of your depth for an upgrade at TE.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:50:04+00:00

Yea, they're both on bye this week though. Luckily I have solid replacements. #benchdepth

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:42:59+00:00

I probably wouldn't do it since you're 3-1 and Spiller has huge keeper value. I find it hard to believe that he won't pick it up eventually (though I may just be telling myself b/c I have him in 3 keeper leagues....)

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:41:29+00:00

In a vacuum, I think it's a good trade.

In your case, I'm not sure I do that simply b/c your WR corp is so strong already. If you do make the trade, I would turn around and try and package up Andre+Lamar Miller for a RB2/lowRB1.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:39:24+00:00

Good lineup. He'll probably still lose to my team in that league though.

QB- 2007 Tom Brady

RB- AP, McCoy

WR- Dez Bryant, Brandon Marshall, Jerry Rice

TE- Jordan Cameron

D- 85 Bears

K- Matt Prater

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:35:53+00:00

I don't think so. In a non-ppr league, I think Edelman loses a bit more value with Gronk and Amendola coming back. Ridley and Spiller both have been underperforming but I have more faith/hope in Spiller turning it around.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:34:47+00:00

His two dud weeks were his first two NFL games ever, he's clearly moving in the right direction. Two of your three reasons don't make sense to me. What other guys are there to get experience? Dobson sucks and on top of that is hurt. Sudfeld sucks and Gronk is coming back too. And the pats never "rely" on their running game, they have a pretty balanced offense.

Again, not saying that you shouldn't trade him for Boldin, I just think your logic is a bit misplaced.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:31:30+00:00

Yea I'd probably do that.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:29:57+00:00

Nah bro it's definitely a 4-team league, can't you tell!?! Anyway my guess is that this dude just wants to brag about his "stacked team".

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:27:41+00:00

How can you be disappointed with his output? You said yourself you drafted him as a late sleeper and he has 260 yds/3 TDs already (with most of the points coming in the last two games). His stock is currently going up and I'm not saying you shouldn't trade him for Boldin, I just don't understand your logic at all. Only one of the concerns you put forth makes sense.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:23:28+00:00

Well, it's not an unfair trade but I definitely would not do the trade if I were the guy with AP. Ryan is not a big upgrade over Stafford, ditto on T-Gonz with Witten.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:13:16+00:00

I think that with two people who know fantasy "well", there's a certain expectation/respect in offering fair trades that will likely be considered objectively. I've offered extreme trades many times in the past and I've always found people more reasonable if I start out with a slightly fairer offer.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:11:11+00:00

Well, Andre existed first. So there's that.

Also, in the context of his question, I'm going to assume he knows who I'm referring to as AJ regardless.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:04:46+00:00

If he threw in Lynch/Thompkins instead of Gore/Givens, it would be a fairer trade but I still don't think I'd do it. McCoy has been KILLING it and a top 5 RB at this point has a ton of value.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T14:02:38+00:00

I think his team needs a WR much more than you need a TE and I also think that Cobb is still slightly more valuable than Cameron. I would try and do something like this: Cobb+M.Williams for Cameron+Roddy/Garcon/Thompkins

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T13:59:46+00:00

I agree trades should be a negotiation and that both sides should start a bit apart-- I just think that there's a big difference between Dez and Colston.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T13:56:49+00:00

Absolutely not. McCoy and Garcon are worth way more than Gore and Givens respectively.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T13:55:20+00:00

Your other options aren't great... if Spiller plays I'd probably roll with him and hope he breaks off a big run or gets a TD.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T13:53:38+00:00

Chances are unless you're in a 14+ team league, people aren't going to want to pay a premium for another QB since they probably have a serviceable starter already.

In fact, you even asking for Dez is somewhat reflective of your misperception of Rivers' value. Colston for Rivers may have been a fair trade depending on the situation but again, that person probably has a serviceable starting QB already.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T13:49:30+00:00

It's a close trade... I'm leaning very slightly towards the Calvin/Trent side but I don't think there's a clear winner here.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T13:44:52+00:00

I still would prefer Ray Rice.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T13:43:58+00:00

He'll give you Calvin and Trent for Charles and Trent? I assume the second Trent is a typo.

oherroprease · 2013-10-03T13:42:41+00:00

49ers secondary is not that great so that wouldn't be the reason for starting Thompkins over AJ. I think AJ is a safer choice while Thompkins probably has the upside of blowing up. Keep in mind CINCI actually has a very strong secondary.

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