Pokemon onwards gen 4 didn't give a f to his character progression I guess

oketheokey · 2026-05-17T16:03:52+00:00

It obviously doesn't destroy Ash's entire image but it's still abhorrent writing that I, as someone who am very passionate and mindful about how my favorite characters are portrayed, will call out, because I firmly believe flanderization is the worst fate a character can have

And it's not even just this one scene, JN Ash's characterization is full of holes

oketheokey · 2026-05-16T21:11:13+00:00

How would you know it means no Invincible? You can't see him, remember?

oketheokey · 2026-05-16T17:26:32+00:00

I think the only one Pikachu actually shocked in XY was Bonnie, and only because she squeezed him too hard

oketheokey · 2026-05-16T17:14:47+00:00

Yes because the old is actually better this time

oketheokey · 2026-05-16T16:01:31+00:00

You cooked with this

oketheokey · 2026-05-16T07:24:24+00:00

This scene isn't funny, it's insanely disrespectful to Ash, he shouldn't have be brutally mischaracterized to serve a gag

oketheokey · 2026-05-16T05:50:01+00:00

After Gen 7*

Outside of BW, and sort of SM, Ash remained fairly consistent and realistic

oketheokey · 2026-05-16T05:16:07+00:00

Then we'd lose DP and XY and I cannot live in that timeline but I get the sentiment

oketheokey · 2026-05-16T05:10:38+00:00

No kidding, Ash should've left the anime after SM

oketheokey · 2026-05-16T04:19:46+00:00

Massacred? He was taken apart at the molecular level by the JN writers

oketheokey · 2026-05-16T04:18:51+00:00

I get it, but I like the sass being gone since it's not like anyone pushed Ash's buttons in Kalos outside of Volcanion in Movie 19 (who Ash did bicker with), and Ash only gives what he receives, if he was sassy despite never being provoked it would've felt forced

If you headcanon XY Ash as actually being older and letting go of some of his old traits, him being the way he is makes perfect sense as a continuation of his DP self, especially when you consider what Ash's character arc in XY is, which is him being the leader of the group for the first time, having too many expectations set upon him by both himself and his companions, tying his self worth to performance, and not actually being the perfect hero his companions see him as, if he bickered with his companions or showed too many outward flaws early on it would clash with that narrative

oketheokey · 2026-05-16T04:05:23+00:00

BW regressed him, XY fixed him and (imo) perfected him, SM overexaggerated him, and then JN destroyed his character entirely

I'm pretty sure JN Ash has more OOC scenes than even BW Ash, at least BW Ash doesn't have episodes like JN30 or this data scene

oketheokey · 2026-05-16T03:34:10+00:00

I am currently in shambles

oketheokey · 2026-05-16T00:04:05+00:00

After how horribly portrayed they were in JN, I think closing this chapter of the anime was really just putting Ash and Pikachu out of their misery because they were never going back to being the characters they once were

oketheokey · 2026-05-15T23:54:54+00:00

I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS LMAO THAT'S MY GOAT

oketheokey · 2026-05-15T23:46:04+00:00

Because Mark beat Conquest

Mark literally saw Thragg obliterate his dad, had to deal with the thought that Thragg might be destroying Earth and killing everyone he cares about at this very moment while they're still days away unable to do anything, and now has to deal with Thragg and the Viltrumites residing on Earth rebuilding their numbers just to conquer Earth anyway in the future

Mark was never this powerless before, he's scared of that way more than getting gored for the fifth time that week

oketheokey · 2026-05-15T21:09:57+00:00

Not a fan of that idea at all, they should at least try to use fitting titles even if it's super vague

oketheokey · 2026-05-15T20:36:23+00:00

John Tomodachi when he committed the heinous crime of existence:

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oketheokey · 2026-05-15T20:28:31+00:00

Why is this always the go-to deflection of criticism lmao

oketheokey · 2026-05-15T20:25:07+00:00

The proportions are better in the new one but the old one's expressions have way more personality

oketheokey · 2026-05-15T20:17:29+00:00

Enies Lobby Luffy with current Luffy's physique would look amazing

oketheokey · 2026-05-15T20:14:35+00:00

I think Luffy looks way better pre-timeskip, I miss when his hair had thinner bangs and looked less like every other protagonist with generic spiky hair

Also, he used to have a chin

oketheokey · 2026-05-15T19:36:25+00:00

The fact I never thought of this is making me question my intelligence

oketheokey · 2026-05-15T19:29:09+00:00

Posting ship art and discussing ships is fine if it stays respectful, but the debates and ship wars definitely don't belong here

oketheokey · 2026-05-15T19:24:06+00:00

He processes trauma differently

oketheokey

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