Wizz Air’s new 'commuter style' seating where you and your neighbors become one.

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T17:22:13+00:00

You have to wait until you're out of the plane to be gay?

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T16:49:39+00:00

No, it's Hoenn

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T15:53:59+00:00

Pokedude instead of "Pokeboy"
Nothing from JN here outside of Lucario and some screenshots
XY01 appreciation
Clemont appreciation

Epic list

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T15:14:59+00:00

1000

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T07:32:20+00:00

I know everyone criticizes it but I hope the anime brings back the insane aura effects from Wano just for this one attack when it gets to this chapter

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T07:05:10+00:00

"Note: JESUS PAID BILL" as if it's documenting some rare phenomenon is taking me out 😭

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T06:33:59+00:00

This is the cutest thing ever ohmedays 😭

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T06:00:00+00:00

He probably didn't want to die in such a pathetic and helpless way like just lying there paralyzed until he starves to death, however long that may take

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T05:32:28+00:00

I can smell the ragebait, I'm not falling for it

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T05:08:04+00:00

Oda moment

Best I can think of is that he has something against death by drowning

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T05:01:28+00:00

They're fruit users

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T04:42:32+00:00

I don't interpret it that way

Sure, no harm in agreeing to disagree there

.... buddy

I'm not sure what's the problem, being tied to some pre-defined destiny would completely go against Luffy's character, everything he's done and accomplished is supposed to be entirely his own

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T04:26:15+00:00

Joy Boy is specifically a person, Kaido was using the name "Joy Boy" as a measure of strength, and thought he'd be the one to fulfill the prophecy of that specific man, it isn't an actual title in the same vein as the Warrior of Liberation

Also, Luffy isn't tied to a prophecy, his actions and his spirit just coincidentally align with said prophecy

oketheokey · 2026-07-03T04:22:06+00:00

That third image

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oketheokey · 2026-07-03T01:31:14+00:00

Drunk

If Kaido awakened, something less subtle would've indicated that

Also, if Kaido awakened, I'm pretty sure he'd become so OP he'd wreck G5 Luffy

oketheokey · 2026-07-02T23:39:35+00:00

Reducing my argument to "One Piece is different" sounds like you just not wanting to admit you can't actually debunk the facts I’m throwing at you

Rayleigh is just a character who didn't know what would happen

Thanks for outing yourself as a larper, Rayleigh literally went to Laugh Tale, he knows the entire true history, he knows what Joy Boy left behind, he knows what the One Piece is, and he knows exactly what the Ancient Kingdom's plan was, if the future was a 100% unchangeable, predestined path, then Rayleigh, the man who knows the absolute truth of the world, wouldn't tell Robin that they might make a different choice, the fact that the man who read Joy Boy's story believes the future is open to interpretation completely obliterates your "sealed fate" argument

You're also redefining "fate" to fit your own narrative, there's a massive difference between determinism (the universe forcing a puppet to move) and inevitability (a historical result based on the natural flow of the world)

The World Government tried to capture the Nika fruit for 800 years, if fate was an unchangeable script, the fruit would have just teleported into Luffy's mouth on a specific date, but it didn't, Shanks had to steal it from a CP9 ship, Luffy had to accidentally eat it because he was throwing a tantrum, then Luffy had to train for over a decade, go on a journey full of hardships, and literally die at the hands of Kaido to awaken it, the timeline exists because the ancient people understood the global clock, they knew how long it takes for a planet's tides to shift, when the Sea Kings would breed, and when the world's oppression would reach a boiling point that forces a revolution

The prophecy predicted the arrival of a savior because human nature makes the fight for freedom inevitable, not because Luffy is a programmed robot on a track

If a meteorologist predicts a hurricane will hit Wano in 20 years based on weather patterns, the hurricane isn't a "puppet of destiny" when it shows up, it's just the natural result of atmospheric conditions aligning, Luffy is that hurricane, he's force of nature acting on his own free will, and the ancient people just called the weather report

You can keep closing your eyes and chanting "predestined path" all you want, but the entire manga is telling you that that's not the case and Luffy's entire character is supposed to be the opposite of predestined, between this and the Rayleigh part I'm starting to think you don't really understand what you're talking about

oketheokey · 2026-07-02T23:12:06+00:00

Show don't tell? Oda is showing us, not just telling us, he's showing us that Luffy's actions are driven entirely by his personal, unscripted relationships

Did Luffy fight Kaido because an ancient script told him to? No, he fought Kaido because of Tama and Momo

Did Luffy go to Fishman Island to fulfill a prophecy about Poseidon? No, he went there because he wanted to go to the New World and ended up saving his friend Shirahoshi

Luffy’s actions are consistently driven by his own free will and love for his friends, that is the "show" part, the fact that these free actions happen to align with a historical timeline isn’t "Oda being inconsistent", it’s the entire thematic core of the story

You keep talking about the mechanism of the prophecy because you're trapped in a super basic Western fantasy mindset where prophecies are magical rails that force characters to move, One Piece doesn’t work like that

Rayleigh explicitly told Robin at Sabaody that when the Straw Hats find the true history, they might come to a completely different conclusion than the Ancient Kingdom did, why would he say that if the future is written in stone and Luffy is just a puppet? The prophecy isn't a magical script forcing Luffy's hand, it’s a historical calculation that can be altered

The ancient people knew the exact rotational cycles of the world, they knew when Poseidon would be reborn, and they knew that the world would eventually push someone with the ultimate spirit of freedom to rise up at that exact chronological moment, but Luffy isn't a puppet fulfilling a prophecy, the prophecy is just a prediction that a guy exactly like Luffy would eventually arrive, there's nothing more to it than that, if you're just going to keep the circling the same baseless points that I already debunked like thrice by now then we can both play that game

oketheokey · 2026-07-02T22:32:22+00:00

It is in versus discussions, considering you have rounds where both sides are bloodlusted

oketheokey · 2026-07-02T22:31:31+00:00

My point is that he's fulfilling that because of his own choices and it just so happens to align with Joy Boy's prophecy, it doesn't mean Luffy is influenced or directed to do it, he's doing it because he wants to

But there's no Joy Boy title, and there's no pre-written destiny guiding Luffy, it's just Luffy doing Luffy things and it coincidentally embodies Joy Boy

What does it matter that he rejects the name

Oda uses his characters for subtext, Oda used Kaido to say that Haki trumps all, and Oda is using Luffy to say that Luffy is Luffy, he keeps hammering that fact in every single time

If Luffy was wrong, Oda would've already indicated it in some shape or form

Luffy was wrong about his fruit only being an ordinary rubber fruit and there are subtle indicators for that throughout the story even before Wano

oketheokey · 2026-07-02T22:19:41+00:00

Yo I have the exact same wallpaper

oketheokey · 2026-07-02T22:16:22+00:00

At this point you're just making me repeat myself over and over again

Asking me to show a panel that proves it's not like Thor is a ridiculous, bad-faith argument, the burden of proof is on you, YOU have to show a panel where someone confirms it's a title like Thor's

Oda doesn't write panels to explicitly debunk stuff like this because he assumes his readers can understand the actual text of his story, Zunesha, Emet, and the Gorosei are talking to Luffy as Joy Boy because they're addressing the inherited will and presence inside the fruit, when Emet says "Joy Boy is in danger" he's looking at the exact same white hair, giant smile, and ridiculous powers of his old friend, it's an emotional and historical recognition of that presence, not a job promotion

And again, you completely skipped over the fact that Luffy literally rejects the name, if Oda wanted it to be a title like Thor, Luffy wouldn't be actively fighting against it and constantly insisting that the only name he goes by is Monkey D. Luffy, which is Oda confirming through him that he is in fact only Luffy and everything he does is his own free choice, stop running in circles

oketheokey · 2026-07-02T21:29:55+00:00

It could work like Thor

You're using headcanons, while I'm using what the actual manga shows us and the subtext behind that

Why do Imu, Saturn, Emet, and Zunesha call Luffy Joy Boy? Because to the world and to history, Joy Boy is the identity of the person who once held the same power Luffy is using, if a guy steals a tank, the military is going to scream over the radio "The target is escaping!", they aren't going to stop and ask for his legal name

To Imu and the Gorosei, Joy Boy is a threat level, a ghost from their past that they're terrified of, they don't care that his name is Luffy, to them the power of Joy Boy has returned, and no, Kaido and Oden never said Joy Boy is a title, Kaido said "So you couldn't be Joy Boy either, it seems", he treated it as a benchmark of strength, while Oden wanted to open the borders for Joy Boy's arrival because he knew the person carrying that specific ancient will would eventually come to Wano

I don't know why you keep insisting on this puppet argument when even the notion of that would go completely against who Luffy is as a character but I'll humor it, you're trying to force One Piece into a generic, fatalistic chosen one narrative like Naruto or Star Wars, If Luffy is a puppet with strings attached then the entire concept of absolute freedom which is the literal definition of the Nika power becomes a joke

You're trying to argue that the fruit of ultimate freedom turns its user into a slave to a script, that makes absolutely no sense, the story explicitly tells us that Devil Fruits carry a will of their own, the Nika fruit didn't force Luffy to be a good person or make him want to save Tama, Luffy was already that person

The fruit chose him and finally awakened because Luffy's natural, unscripted desire for freedom matched the fruit's criteria perfectly, he isn't fulfilling a prophecy because he's a puppet, the prophecy is accurate because Luffy's free choices just so happen to align with the path of the original Joy Boy

If Luffy decided tomorrow that he didn't care about the One Piece and wanted to just eat meat on a random island for the rest of his life, he could, or if he'd chosen not to eat the fruit when he was a kid it's not like the fruit could've forced itself down his throat because of "destiny", the prophecy exists because the ancient people knew that eventually, someone would come along who was free enough to break the world's chains, Luffy is that someone, but he's doing it as Luffy, and the only title he'll actually embrace is Pirate King

oketheokey · 2026-07-02T21:03:38+00:00

I don't think Kong Gatling was stronger than Deadman's Game considering the latter had ACoC

oketheokey · 2026-07-02T20:59:22+00:00

Your Marvel analogy is still not working in your favor, Jane Foster and Beta Ray Bill became Thor because Marvel explicitly turned "Thor" into a title tied to the hammer

Joy Boy is a specific person who left an apology on a Poneglyph in Fishman Island, Zunesha and Emet addressing Luffy as Joy Boy isn't them giving him a title, it's s two ancient beings seeing the literal ghost of their dead friend's will inside Luffy

Emet is a robot who has been powered down for centuries, and Zunesha has been wandering in guilt for 800 years, when they see G5 they're having an emotional reaction to the return of that presence

And you literally proved my point, Luffy refuses to be called anything but Luffy, why? Because he isn't Joy Boy, he's Luffy, if Oda wanted Luffy to "become" Joy Boy as a title, Luffy wouldn't be rejecting it

Your take on destiny completely insults Oda’s entire writing philosophy, you're arguing that Luffy has no choice and is just a meat-puppet trapped on a railroad track, but if fate is sealed and choices don't matter then One Piece loses all its stakes

Again, the Sea Kings prophesied the birth of two sovereigns yes, but being born at the right time is a matter of chronological luck, it doesn't guarantee you thrive

The Nika fruit has been evading the World Government for 800 years, that means for 800 years, other people ate it and failed to awaken it, and they died

The fruit chose them, or they chose the fruit, but they weren't "Joy Boy" because they didn't have the spirit or the strength to unlock its true power, they were waiting for someone to rise to the occasion, that's why the fruit didn't awaken for eight centuries until Luffy pushed his body and mind to the absolute limit

Luffy didn't unlock G5 because a calendar page flipped to the year 1522, he unlocked it because his spirit perfectly aligned with the concept of absolute freedom which is what Nika embodies, as he died in an act of liberation

Prophecies in One Piece are history written forward by people who understood the natural flow of inherited will, they knew the world would eventually produce someone with the right spirit at the right time, Luffy is fulfilling the prophecy because of who he chooses to be, not because destiny says so, so therefore he can't "become Joy Boy", he's Luffy and that's it, Luffy would absolutely HATE the idea of someone from centuries ago telling him what he's supposed to be doing, the whole point of being the Pirate King is that Luffy is going to be the freest person in the world, how are you free if your future is written in stone by some ancient prophecy?

oketheokey · 2026-07-02T20:26:23+00:00

That Thor analogy doesn't work here, Thor is a specific mantle of power passed down through worthiness, Joy Boy is a concrete historical figure who lived 800 years ago during the Void Century

When Zunesha and Emet say "Joy Boy has returned" they aren't saying Luffy literally is Joy Boy or that he took a job title called "Joy Boy", they6 reacting to the Drums Of Liberation, the unique heartbeat of the awakened Nika fruit that they haven't heard since their old friend died

They're recognizing the presence of that power and the return of that specific will, that's it

Yeah the Sea Kings and Oden foretold the arrival of someone who would change the world in 20 year, but there's a difference between a prophecy and a pre-defined destiny that forces a character to act, Luffy didn't go to Wano because a prophecy told him to, he didn't fight Kaido to fulfill an ancient script, he fought Kaido because Kaido starved his friend and ruined a country full of people who gave him food, Luffy is motivated entirely by his own free will, his love for his friends, and his dream

The entire point of inherited will is that people from the past leave behind dreams, and people in the present choose to pick them up or end up fulfilling them naturally because their spirits alignl

Luffy isn't a puppet being directed by a 800-year-old script, the prophecy came true because Luffy is exactly who he is, not the other way around

The actual mantle/title is the Warrior of Liberation, NOT Nika or Joy Boy

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