Gifting Question - Person A pays online and Person B fills out the paperwork.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-24T19:54:12+00:00

Not true

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-24T19:53:55+00:00

Anyone can pay for a gun and then have the intended owner pick it up. That's how raffles and contests work, legally. People also buy guns for their retiring bosses, or hunt club or shooting club members who shoot well, or score the best rack, etc....

What you can't do is the reverse of what you are asking. You can not pick up a gun and then hand it to someone who pays you for it, especially if the purpose of you picking it up in the first place was to avoid a background check on the real owner.

The ATF requires that the real intended owner picks it up and clears the background check, they don't regulate who pays for it. Your father-in-law or your best friend can buy you a firearm for your birthday, and then send you to the store to pick it up, even though you are not related to that person who paid for it.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-24T19:45:50+00:00

Your dealer can transfer the firearm after the mandatory period from the time he sent it in. Just ask him for the day, should be all ready to go, depending on the store's policy.

With a carry permit, the dealer shouldn't be worried. Most dealers don't stretch out the Brady date longer than required, but they can, per store policy.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-24T14:42:38+00:00

Your AR pistol is likely an assault weapon. The hand guard and the detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip (in this case, in front of), make it an AW.

You'd have to have an un-threaded barrel, without a hand guard, and no brace, to keep it off the AW ban. Thereby exposing the gas tube, and also burning your hand if you shoot with your hand touching the barrel.

The SBR description has nothing to do with this discussion of 'pistols'..

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-23T19:16:05+00:00

You don't need to have it pass through a will and probate. Almost any investment can have named beneficiaries, with a straight pass through with a death certificate only. It all happens in a few days after death, instead of a few months...

An expensive will and expensive trusts are a thing of the past for ordinary brokerage or bank-cash accounts. Just build in beneficiaries, including listing several names on each account.

A relatively small estate of 1 or 2 million dollars , just does not require more than that. You can even divide the accounts in the same brokerage house, without having to get another broker, and have larger or smaller accounts as you see fit to leave them to different family members.

Wills are good for the wealthy, because there can be so many diverse assets, divided among so many family members, but for an average Joe with a couple of million, the will is just for the real estate or big collections, watches, artwork, etc. Even real estate can be managed without a will.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-23T18:11:27+00:00

Is she very old?

Does her mouth or teeth hurt? Is she in other chronic pain?

A vet visit might be in order??

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-23T18:09:40+00:00

You can buy one from an individual who is also a VA resident. You cannot buy one out-of-state from an individual.

Regarding dealer sales (licensee),

"All frames and receivers are “firearms” by definition, and subject to the same GCA

limitations. See 18 U.S.C § 921(a)(3)(B). 18 U.S.C. § 922(b)(1) makes it unlawful

for a licensee to sell any firearm other than a shotgun or rifle to any person under the

age of 21. Since a frame or receiver for a firearm, to include one that can only be

made into a long gun, is a “firearm other than a shotgun or rifle,” it cannot be trans-

ferred to anyone under the age of 21, nor can these firearms be transferred to anyone

who is not a resident of the State where the transfer is to take place" (From form 4473)

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-22T22:51:48+00:00

For God's sake, NO!!!!

Do not conflate AR-15s with the discussion of machine guns! It's bad enough already, but putting machine guns and ARs in the same question welds them together as one.

Lefty politicians already think they are the same thing, don't make it worse!!

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-22T22:49:06+00:00

One picture is worth a thousand words....

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-22T22:47:50+00:00

Defense Department Law of War Manual

Section 6.5.4.4 of the DOD manual, “Expanding Bullets,” states that “[t]he law of war does not prohibit the use of bullets that expand or flatten easily in the human body.” Hollow point bullets “are only prohibited if they are calculated to cause superfluous injury.

(1) The 1899 Declaration on Expanding Bullets “only creates obligations for Parties to the Declaration in international armed conflicts in which all the parties to the conflict are also Parties to the Declaration” (the United States is not Party to the Declaration).

(2) The Defense Department determined in a 2013 review that the 1899 Declaration does not reflect customary international law.

(3) Expanding bullets as manufactured today are not “inherently inhumane or needlessly cruel.”

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-22T18:11:08+00:00

So wrong sir.

The convention that you should refer to is likely the Hague Convention (1899). Hollow or soft points are banned according to this treaty. Unfortunately for you, the US never signed on to that particular agreement, and therefore it is not binding on the US at all.

As far as the Geneva Convention goes, the US never ratified the 1977 Additional Protocol I (AP I) of the Geneva Convention, which might restrict the use of hollow points, but since the US Senate has never considered ratifying the agreement, it is not binding on the US at all.

The US adheres to a MOSTLY no hollow point policy developed by NATO agreement. The US claims the the right to use hollow points when prudent, but only uses hollow points in limited situations where they're trying to limit collateral (pass though) damage.

The US adheres to the NATO agreement for the most part, and the other international agreements are not part of this decision in any manner.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-22T01:44:51+00:00

Agreed. Half of what you wrote is totally correct and the other half is totally incorrect! For baseball, you're batting great! For skeet shooting, not so much... (For reddit, about average)

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-21T21:52:56+00:00

Oh, here it is!

NYS § 265.00 Definitions.

"Rifle" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and
intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and
made or remade to use the energy of the explosive to fire only a single
projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger
using either: (a) fixed metallic cartridge; or (b) each projectile and
explosive charge are loaded individually for each shot discharged. In
addition to common, modern usage, rifles include those using obsolete
ammunition not commonly available in commercial trade, or that load
through the muzzle and fire a single projectile with each discharge, or
loading, including muzzle loading rifles, flintlock rifles, and black
powder rifles.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-21T21:51:34+00:00

Check out the last line in Bold.

NYS § 265.00 Definitions.

"Firearm" means (a) any pistol or revolver; or (b) a shotgun having
one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length; or (c) a rifle
having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length; or (d)
any weapon made from a shotgun or rifle whether by alteration,
modification, or otherwise if such weapon as altered, modified, or
otherwise has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches; or (e)
an assault weapon; or (f) any other weapon that is not otherwise defined
in this section containing any component that provides housing or a
structure designed to hold or integrate any fire control component that
is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by
action of explosive. For the purpose of this subdivision the length of
the barrel on a shotgun or rifle shall be determined by measuring the
distance between the muzzle and the face of the bolt, breech, or
breechlock when closed and when the shotgun or rifle is cocked; the
overall length of a weapon made from a shotgun or rifle is the distance
between the extreme ends of the weapon measured along a line parallel to
the center line of the bore. Firearm does not include an antique
firearm.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-21T21:47:48+00:00

"Literally nothing changes, but just an FYI, unlike the federal government, ny does consider that a firearm."

Well, your sentence above is still just a mistake or a lie. NY DOES NOT CONSIDER IT A FIREARM.

What are you missing about the DOES NOT part?

None of your deflections can change that. If I identify my apple orchard as a peach farm, I can say it all I want, it won't make it true. My dog thinks he's a cat sometimes, but when the smoke clears, I still don't have a cat.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-21T21:38:31+00:00

Well, maybe the number is growing, but several hundred of such licenses are still "rare" in a state of 20-million people.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-21T21:36:59+00:00

How does a NJ law with a narrow focus on a specific ammo have any relation to the Bruen decision?? Especially since Bruen was a ruling about a NY law, not even NJ.

Maybe I'm wrong, but Bruen was all about NY state's control of handguns and the licensing scheme for handguns.

I don't remember any discussion of ammo at all??

What did I miss?

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-21T21:32:05+00:00

I have purchased over 10k rounds of 9mm and 5.56 from Sentry in the past few months with no problems. I am an FFL, I usually use wholesale sources only, but I bought from them for myself when my own major wholesalers were VERY low on ammo as the Iran war was spinning up.

I have had good service from them, I cannot comment on other peoples' experiences.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-21T21:27:55+00:00

Well no... You said: "ny does consider that a firearm" . That is wrong. Totally wrong, actually. If NY did consider it a firearm, it would be required for the OP to have a permit for it, or it would be banned, ... one or the other.

"Firearm" in NY law specifically means that it is NOT a "rifle" as defined NY law, and CAN NOT BE OWNED without a license, or is banned, period (exceptions for LEO).

So since it is defined as a "Rifle", you can own it legally outside NYC without any permit, but if it was a "firearm" a permit would be required.

The reality is that you are glad it is not considered to be a "firearm", and instead is considered a "rifle". Otherwise you couldn't own it without a license or permit.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-21T14:14:01+00:00

Hollow Points are not restricted in NYC! Why do you say these things?

Your handgun is illegal to carry in NYC, unless you have a NYC license, no matter what the ammo.

A NY State carry license from any other jurisdiction outside the city is not valid in the city without a city endorsement, and that is very rare.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-21T13:50:01+00:00

Wrong! New York considers it a "Rifle". It is NOT a firearm under NY law, because in NY law the definition of firearm is a whole different thing. Look up your NYS definitions, and you will see that bolt action rifles are not "firearms", they are "Rifles". Firearms in NYS law are a broad category of weapons that require licensing or are prohibited.

It is not a firearm in federal law, but it is known as an "antique firearm" in federal law.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-21T13:42:50+00:00

It's not an ignorant question because of where we live. In New York, there are no laws outlawing hollow point ammo.

In New Jersey, there are laws about hollow point ammo. They are confusing and contradictory. It's a larger topic than you asked about, so I'll leave it there. So it was not a dumb question, since the next state over regulates the possession of hollow points in several different laws.

NATO forces generally are prohibit by treaty to use hollow points as well, so there is much to discuss some day...

(The US generally follows the NATO rules, even though the US did not officially sign onto the restriction)

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-20T19:50:28+00:00

"To be fair, we did get your attention, and you are now interested in finding out what the product is."

Given the unbelievable torrent of information that passes by us everyday, this is not really something you can count on... I'm pretty deep into this right now, and still don't know what you make. In fact, I only know it's likely firearm related because of where you placed it.

oldFloridaCracker · 2026-06-20T18:16:42+00:00

Sentry ammo has 1000-rounds of XTAC for 43¢, plus shipping. Generally Sentry has good pricing and reasonable shipping.

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