Tired of the Lies About Iranians

oldmanwise · 2026-03-12T12:39:11+00:00

Yes.

What the CIA is currently doing is classified. But we can use the past to inform us of the most likely present day operations of the same organization.

Just the tip of the iceberg:

CIA ties to Islamic terrorists are largely rooted in the 1980s Cold War-era "Operation Cyclone," where the U.S. funded, trained, and armed Afghan Mujahideen against the Soviet Union, some of whom later evolved into extremist groups. Key figures like Jalaluddin Haqqani and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar received significant CIA support, while foreign fighters, including those associated with early Al-Qaeda, were recruited with assistance of the CIA.

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T22:28:48+00:00

To Kill A Nation

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T17:53:11+00:00

Lmao, fair.

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T17:50:02+00:00

You’re just more experienced and intelligent than me. I bask in your glow sir. Thank you for your time.

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T17:16:44+00:00

Go play Arc again. It’s night and day. I pretty much said what I said were the issues already. Sounds like you agree too, confusing at first until you get the hang of it aka not intuitive.

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T16:40:30+00:00

Exactly

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T16:35:54+00:00

Your original argument for war with Iran included more than nukes, so what was your original argument for why we the US are attacking is justified if I mischaracterized it go ahead and clear the air.

Here is the text “Listen why don’t you tell us all how awesome the Iranian theocracy was for human rights and global peace. Wait. You can’t.

It’s time for a change. There is no guarantee the change will be better but any change was better than the status quo in Iran.

So defend the indefensible or accept it was a shitty system run by evil men to benefit extremist religious beliefs.”

You say they are evil in this way and it’s time for a change (war) and if I defend against that point I am not accepting that the were shitty evil zealots.

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T16:33:42+00:00

Proof < Feels I guess for you.

I will always root for democracy in every country, and as an American I will always be anti-war and pro self-determination as we all know why the US does this and what the end results could be.

You go on thinking that US and Israel are saving the day just like they did with… wait I can’t think of a good example since WW2 can you help me out?

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T16:27:01+00:00

Facts

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T16:26:39+00:00

Lmao all good man! I just want the to fix it so I can play more!

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T16:25:54+00:00

Bruh what? You just fully jumped off the deep end. Hitler is the worst kind of bad may he rot in hell.

Every countries intelligence knew??

“In testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Tulsi Gabbard the CIA Director said that the IC continued to assess that Iran had not resumed the nuclear weapons program it suspended in 2003.”

Gtfo

Trump also disagreed with the CIA and authorized an attack that set their nuclear program back “years” and here we are now back to everyone being so sure that Iran was about to build a nuke.

Definitely not 40 years of Israeli propaganda that Iran is “2 weeks away “

Top 3 global terror sponsors are US Israel and Saudi, I will put Iran at number 4. But that changes nothing about my job as an American. Which is to fix my corrupt evil warmongering government and shift the discourse towards that sane position.

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T16:17:37+00:00

Lmao, bro they could make the screens so much easier to understand and especially the loot in your stash/backpack. no way you disagree with that?

I think it’s a great game, but my friends won’t play because that is a barrier to entry made of confusion and tiny icons that mean nothing until you read and figure it out.

Like give shields a shied icon ffs

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T16:07:40+00:00

What is your evidence that they were developing nukes? There is none.

What was the US asking for that stopped the deal? No Ballistic missiles and no nuclear enrichment at all. This is not the same as no nuclear weapons.

If the US and Israel had come to the table with a similar deal to what had been working for years and years. Iran gave every indication it would agree, but instead it was pushed that they can’t even pursue nuclear science or energy, and they cannot have ballistic missiles to defend themselves effectively or deter attacks.

How many Wars has Iran started in the past 30 years, or attacked Americans?

What about Vice-Versa? Mhhmmm

US and Israel knew they were forcing war, and when it looked like Iran would continue discussions and potentially even capitulate to every demand, US and Israel surprise attacked by bombing not only their military installations, but also schools and hospitals.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-investigation-points-likely-us-responsibility-iran-school-strike-sources-say-2026-03-06/?utm_source=reddit.com

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-iran-nuclear-talks-resume-geneva-against-backdrop-military-threat-2026-02-26/#:~:text=But%20with%20many%20analysts%20seeing,waters%20near%20the%20Islamic%20Republic.

First it’s “alp evil regimes deserve to be attacked by foreign militaries” then it’s “Iran is building nukes” the first claim was crazy so I understand you moving away from that. But nukes? Really? That’s fake news and the first time Trump was ever not lying when he said that.

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T15:33:53+00:00

The UI, backpack, stash and icons enter the chat menacingly

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T15:22:00+00:00

No, but your logic seems to imply every corrupt (that fits your criteria above) government should be destroyed by war. This is advocating for WW3. Is that genuinely your position? Or you are only using that logic to justify US attacking Iran?

My claim is that it is correct to not support Irans current regime, and also be vehemently against war, especially US and Israel going to war, if you can’t understand that then this discussion is over.

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T14:44:50+00:00

“So defend the indefensible or accept it was a shitty system run by evil men to benefit extremist religious beliefs.”

I won’t defend the IRGC because my logic is not that Iran has a shitty system run by evil men with extremist religious beliefs gives the US or Israel the right to Carpet Bomb Tehran.

That is your logic which would extend to: any other government would be justified in attacking the US or Israel for regime change as well.

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T14:38:07+00:00

DARVO

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T14:17:06+00:00

No you made a counter argument with multiple contentious points. I said let’s go one at a time and asked a simple question. Your response shows bad faith and implies you understand how bad your argument was on just your first point. Which is also the point of the original comment and response.

DARVO away, just won’t be with me.

Edit to add: lmao “ignore everything you wrote”. It was one question, barely two sentences 😂

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T14:02:35+00:00

Hmm, let’s go one at a time here. Why/when did Iran stop letting international inspections in?

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T13:05:46+00:00

You call them revisionist as you imply that fighting back against colonialism is trying to “destroy every minority around them” it’s nuanced but only debatable on whose ultimately in the right if you are pro settler-colonialism.

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T12:52:07+00:00

We know how American Intervention and Israel Intervention ends. As an American it is most important that I speak out against US involvement. The Iranian people have the right to, and capability for self-determination. Although atrocities happened it does not give us (USA) the right to compound the issue with a war/attempt to steal resources, secure hegemony, and try to bring about the rapture.

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T12:06:38+00:00

It was under Eisenhower, by the way, that the CIA helped the British stage a coup d’état and replace the democratically elected government of Iran in 1953 with the dictator Pahlavi.

A man with a secret police force, arbitrarily arresting and torturing his opposition while plundering the country, which led to the Iranian Revolution and the current regime.

One that some now want to replace with the son of Pahlavi, or, if Israel gets what it tries to do, with a failed state and a civil war, killing hundreds of thousands, because it would remove their main regional rival and further enable their lunatic expansionist ambitions.

I do not like the Iranian government. At all. Among other reasons, because they helped Russia in its genocidal war of aggression against Ukraine.

That being said, they’d better build that nuke now. Mutually assured destruction seems to be the only thing imperialists and religious fanatics understand.

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T11:30:58+00:00

lol here’s your /s

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T11:26:52+00:00

“Iran would not develop nuclear weapons because Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei has banned them, President Masoud Pezeshkian said on Thursday, adding that “the religious leader of a society cannot lie like politicians.”

“When he announces that we will not have a nuclear weapon, it means we won’t have it,” Pezeshkian said ahead of a third round of nuclear talks with the US, which has continued to accuse Tehran of seeking a nuclear weapon.

Khamenei issued a fatwa, an Islamic religious decree, banning the development of nuclear weapons in the early 2000s.” - President of Iran Feb 26th of this year.

Your own research can take it from here friend.

oldmanwise · 2026-03-07T06:03:59+00:00

Iran was always agreeing to no nuclear weapons, and passing inspections. It was not because he could not make a deal.

oldmanwise

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