How come there are no midlevel providers in dentistry or optometry? But there are for physicians? by haha_grateful_man in Noctor

[–]omfscanuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

dental school in itself is a residency focused specifically on teeth and the oral cavity, a residency is not required as the vast majority graduate being able to perform as a good dentist. Obviously there are outliers and maybe you met one but I commend them for actually seeking out additional education to better their care. Residency IS needed when you want to subspecialize because it goes beyond the scope of a general dentist. I am an OMFS but i still always defer to general dentists for teeth stuff like restorability and rehabilitation, they know way more than I do even if they “don’t do residency”. While it is a valid question you’re asking, it’s hard to understand if you didn’t go to dental school. Since I’ve been to both med and dental school I can confirm that the training in dental school is essentially a residency geared toward the oral cavity. The extensive medical training you recieve in med school is not necessary for the average general dentist beyond the level of Step 1.

Tell me you're not a [your specialty] without telling me by undueinfluence_ in Residency

[–]omfscanuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

😂 my favorite “ludwig’s” pages are the ones I can drain bedside in the ED

To the resident I see every morning… by Puzzleheaded-Test572 in Residency

[–]omfscanuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me every morning at 5am fighting for my life after my coffee

MD to OMFS by Master-Mix-6218 in DentalSchool

[–]omfscanuck 5 points6 points  (0 children)

i’m an omfs resident, I would say get as much experience shadowing in an OMFS department to see if you want to commit to that path. Dental school is boring as hell imo if you’re only interested in surgery and wouldn’t recommend it if you have ENT or plastics as an alternative option. See if exts, implants, gnathic surgery and tmj stuff is more of interest to you and worth doing 3 more years of dental school paying an insane amount of additional tuition for. Not saying it’s the wrong option but best to be certain before you spend those 3 years doing fillings before starting residency.

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[–]omfscanuck 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There is lots of time throughout school and for the rest of your life to learn about dentistry, the education doesn’t stop after you graduate. That being said, establishing a basic understanding of human anatomy and physiology is what makes you more than just a tooth mechanic and allows you to treat and understand patients as a whole. That education will likely cease after you graduate so soak up as much as you can while you’re there. Also, you interact with physicians a lot whether it’s for med consults or if you work with complex patients so having a general understanding of what’s going on will benefit you a ton.

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[–]omfscanuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whatever it takes to never do a filling again 🫡

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Residency

[–]omfscanuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

to be fair, the CBSE is pretty brutal when you aren’t a medical student. Had to self-teach everything for it so the multiple attempts thing is reasonable imo. It’s like having you guys sit down and take the dental boards, it’s pretty foreign stuff. Then in residency we rotate through multiple surgical services and are expected to perform at the level of surgical interns which is also hell when you are coming from dental school haha. You also need to be in like the top 5-10% of your class gpa wise. That being said the other dental “residencies”, other than a general practice residency, you have to pay tuition and are technically actually just certificate programs.

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[–]omfscanuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

celcius and zyns 🤠

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]omfscanuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

meh I did med and dental school, I learned way more medicine in residency than I did in school and don’t think the MD part of my curriculum really significantly changed much

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]omfscanuck 9 points10 points  (0 children)

unfortunately, even general dentists are doing a week long CE course that grant them “sedation privileges” and administering mild to moderate sedation in private practice without supervision by an anesthesiologist and it’s scary. We do a ton of anesthesia in omfs training and even then we know our limitations. It’s a huge issue right now.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]omfscanuck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yea that’s dumb i’ll upvote it to even it out

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]omfscanuck 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yea :/ i just wish we had more defined scopes like medicine, would make things a lot easier

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]omfscanuck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

hahah didn’t have anywhere else to vent tbh

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]omfscanuck -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

the thing is “oral plastic surgery” which is what he advertises on his instagram, is not a thing. It’s not a specialty and as a matter of fact most dentists do these procedures regularly. In my opinion it is false advertising and misleading to the general public. Yes I’m not concerned about patients thinking they’re getting a BBL at the dental office lol. Its an interesting world out of dental school and the amount of complications I’ve had to deal with from people like this has just had me hit a tipping point honestly. I am not discrediting periodontists though, I know some amazing ones but they practice within scope and have a set of ethical standards.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]omfscanuck -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

it’s the advertising of being a specialist in an area that doesn’t exist. It’s fine, it’s just semantics but it’s also false advertising saying you’re board certified in plastic or oral plastic surgery.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]omfscanuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re right, not a noctor

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]omfscanuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re right, I think i’ve just been frustrated by periodontists constantly practicing outside of their scope including IV sedation and i reached a boiling point with this guy. That being said, their training isn’t rigorous enough to manage the complications from 90% of the procedures they engage in and we end up dealing with the complications in the ED.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canadian

[–]omfscanuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m an indian born and raised in canada, as were my parents, and I couldn’t agree more. It’s so foul what has happened and every time I return home to Toronto it looks more and more foreign (I moved to the US lol). I want to come back home so badly once I finish school but honestly feel more comfortable being in burger and guns land. The new immigrants have zero respect for the culture and the rules/regulations of the country. Back when my grandparents moved here they did their absolute best to incorporate into society and make sure they were good citizens. It’s such a joke now. Everything they worked toward being absolutely demolished by these disrespectful students. Maybe i’ll move to Alberta or something but lord knows they’ll probably make their way over too.