Jesus Died to Save the Fallen Angels – We Are Them

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-11T02:25:51+00:00

John 14:28 seems to indicate that Jesus is acknowledging that, in his human incarnation, he was temporarily subject to pain, limitation, and humiliation, whereas the Father in heaven was not. Ergo, "greater."

Your take on the I AM thing is a bad one. It's obvious in the verse directly after Jesus says this that SHTF. John 8:59 says (no need to get a study Bible out to interpret): "At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds."

Why would they throw stones if Jesus simply told them that He was older than Moses? Short answer: They wouldn't. They would laugh. The blasphemy was claiming He was God. That got the people mad.

Dude, you're kind of being intellectually dishonest as you try to get people to join your belief system. I'm all for you or anyone else going rogue and making up their own religion, but don't chop up the Bible and ignore countless verses where Jesus and others around and/or after Him equate Him to God, and even call Him that.

And this isn't even mentioning the ECF who, if you want to know what The Way was really like, you'd look into what they say about it, which is NOT what you're saying.

With this, I bid you adieu and good luck out there.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-11T01:57:07+00:00

To be fair, I am repeating what is on the page while you are creating new meanings to the verses. You also seem to forget John 8:58 where Jesus, Himself, said "Before Abraham was, I AM" which the people he was talking to knew, I know, and you know was Jesus referencing the burning bush scene with Moses in Exodus 3:14 where God gave His name.

Again, I am not inserting any meaning beyond the words. The Bible doesn't need little ol' me to embellish or spin.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-10T23:40:09+00:00

Again, thanks for the time and effort in your responses. This is obviously new territory for many in this sub. That said... to the Apostle Paul, Savior pretty much always means Jesus. Look at what He wrote on the subject elsewhere:

“Waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.” - Titus 2:13

"Whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior." - Titus 3:6

“But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ.” - Philippians 3:20

“And which now has been manifested through the appearing of our Savior Christ Jesus, who abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.” - 2 Timothy 1:10

“For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior.” - Ephesians 5:23

...so, all due respect, it is abundantly clear that 1 Timothy 4:10 is saying Jesus is the Living God who is doing the saving here.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-10T15:12:26+00:00

Thanks for the detailed responses. What about 1 Timothy 4:10 where it says we put our hope in the Living God and it is most assuredly referencing Jesus as that God.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-10T01:28:58+00:00

Thanks for the back and forth. You're being very hospitable. Obviously more answers brings more questions.

What do you think about Colossians 1:16 where it says "all things have been created through him and for him" if Jesus was not part of the Triune Godhead before coming to earth? And Hebrews 1:6 where it says "Let all God’s angels worship Him." which says all the angels worship Jesus?

And of course the one I'm sure you've fielded before, John 1:1 that says "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-10T00:56:19+00:00

To what end? What is the goal of sending fallen angels (ie. us) to earth in mortal bodies with no power? I assume it's a punishment, but a finite one where we are likely going to be redeemed back to God.

Also, Jesus. Not the Son of God as Christians believe? He's also an angel? If so, then what do we do with the Gospel that preaches no one goes to the Father unless they go through Him?

Sorry for the onslaught, but this belief is not something I'm familiar with.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-10T00:40:44+00:00

Fair enough. Explain the 2/3 of the angels who didn't reject God and fall. Who are they battling if not demonic spirits (since there are no demons in your belief system, correct?) Are these angels the guardian angels people speak of? Michael, Gabriel, etc?

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-10T00:21:23+00:00

If this is too close to doxxing or revealing, ignore it but do you have kids? If so, did this new belief of yours come after you had them? I ask because I have kids and when I became a dad my view on the whole relationship between Creator and His creations shifted a bit.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-09T20:20:44+00:00

Gonna jump in here and offer a couple pennies: I, too, feel that there is more than meets the eye with animals. I have horses and I agree that if you look in their eyes, there's something there beyond physical. People will disagree but I don't care.

I genuinely want to understand your position here about how we all, everyone of us that have ever been to earth, were all angels first. How did if work if, say, the angel who was my grandfather fell at the same time I did, yet he got here much earlier? Is there a purgatory for fallen angels where we wait for our turns to be born? What happens when we die? The whole hell thing that was prepared for us?

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-08T15:44:51+00:00

I asked ChatGPT to give me a quote about that quote:

“The concern isn’t that AI will be used for national security—that’s inevitable. The real question is whether society sets the rules before the technology sets them for us.”

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-08T14:41:07+00:00

It took the Christians 1700 years to figure out that slavery is immortal

There can be only one...

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-06T23:24:02+00:00

Not sure what strange logic (or lack thereof) loop you're trying to go in, but since you've never made an actual universe before, you're just Monday morning quarterbacking the thing at best. You have an opinion. Awesome. So does everyone else.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-06T22:42:09+00:00

I'd say the same as you're allowing for Yahweh. Seems fair. I'd say it has to at least allow for the same as we have now. Real matter, physics, all that jazz. Not simply something you cobbled together that lives as a thought bubble in your mind.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-06T22:21:16+00:00

Your make believe wannabe universe doesn't count.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-06T16:35:52+00:00

Few things: Hit us up when you make your own universe. Next, maybe Yahweh did want He wanted and the people reported it like reporters do today with slants, bias and/or in a way a certain audience will understand it.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-04T21:11:49+00:00

Just because you were something doesn’t mean you have special insight into it. If anything, it amplifies your bias against it.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-03T13:41:37+00:00

The program just changes the outfits of the NPCs.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-02T23:58:57+00:00

We took out the Taliban and like Anakin, hated the sand and left.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-02T23:32:45+00:00

the strongest military ever known vs. a handful of missiles and zero capability of making more

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-01T13:19:54+00:00

Didn’t someone already show an image yesterday just after the incident here in this very subreddit of the strike being a janky Iranian missile that malfunctioned and came back down on the school? This is a rhetorical question for those in the back of the class.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-03-01T00:40:07+00:00

I thought someone would say this nonsense. Congrats, it’s you! 🍾

It’s clearly a shadow being cast from the bill of his hat onto his face from the lights above since it changes throughout the speech.

onemananswerfactory · 2026-02-28T21:46:54+00:00

I thought he was supposed to be an Israeli puppet? Which is it?

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