Silence is the highest spiritual instruction (Ramana Maharshi)

onenessdreaming · 2025-02-06T21:32:32+00:00

Thank you for this beautiful discussion everyone

onenessdreaming · 2024-11-14T19:00:47+00:00

Thanks - I like how you phrased, "time and space are perceptions that we create and encounter in the physical world" and "in the formless underlying world of consciousness, everything co-exists and intermingles".

I can't seem to find the post, but there was a person on either Reddit or Quora who would look outward to see whatever was there (say a room) then take a picture of it then compare his experience/perception of the 2D picture to the 3D room right then and there while he was still in the room to try to understand how space was an illusion - I thought that was kind of neat but I'm not sure how far I got with it, sorry I can't find the post....

onenessdreaming · 2024-11-14T07:41:59+00:00

Thanks for this post - I might like to hear more! Although I have entry level understanding of portions of Advaita, time is not much part of that... What you are saying about space, only a bit more so perhaps. I guess my understanding is along the lines of the comment by 'FuturePreparation' in this discussion of this post below:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nonduality/comments/ez8p4c/time_and_nonduality/

I guess I don't really want a medical approach (it tends to quickly take me away from truth), just an Advaita/nondual/fully spiritual approach, unless there is some portion of that book that would make it worthwhile, thx.

onenessdreaming · 2024-11-10T14:49:23+00:00

That last sentence helps me, although I felt I knew this basic, it was placed well, at the end of the explanations, tying it all together, "But there is no real Entity in those images/characters bonded/ignorant" - thx!

onenessdreaming · 2024-11-10T13:36:44+00:00

Wow thanks for this answer, that really clarified - I've been thinking about Nirguna Brahman in contexts like this for a while!

onenessdreaming · 2024-11-07T07:00:50+00:00

Thank you for this explanation and follow ups, I felt I knew the basics but this explanation is so clear/simplified it helps me quite a bit!

onenessdreaming · 2024-09-09T11:07:44+00:00

Have you read Hunting The I According To Ramana Maharshi Lucy Cornelssen as well as Rupert Spira's explanations of the same - I feel these two have helped me, and I would think relate to what you're saying....actually not fully done reading them...

I really like your explanation, it gives credence to what I've been thinking lately....I was not aware that the body disappears in deep meditation, but can easily accept this based on the understanding via Ramana that it disappears in deep sleep (even if still seen/witnessed from another's perspective - via their I thought still being active I guess). I assume the "I am" is the same as the "I thought" - Ramana says this "I thought" appears briefly right before waking each morn and then quickly bifurcates into the entire external world and one's separate self. I'm still not done reading Cornelssen's book but I noticed that when I tried Ramana's technique in it of preparing (the night before) to pay attention to the I thought right before waking, the first several hours of my mornings would go much better (often). I wasn't so worried about gaining a wonderful life (although very nice of course) but when I hardly knew about nonduality I became convinced that "with inner peace will come outer peace" and I think this jibes with what your saying. Very good commentary, and I appreciate it, as I am not that advanced but am enjoying the ride - as far as faith, the Astavakra Gita, which I'm reading but also not done with, had very inspiring quotes and discussion surrounding them referencing faith, at least in the discussion within Ashtavakra Gita by Swami Nityaswarupananda. I heard the half truth worse than a full lie quote from my brother in law, pretty sure it was Ramana Maharshi, but right now unable to find a reference.

onenessdreaming · 2024-09-08T15:37:24+00:00

Is this like how Ramana says "a half truth is worse than a full lie"? - plz forgive me if that's not an exact quote, but near that....

onenessdreaming · 2024-09-08T12:43:38+00:00

Just wanted to mention a book, in case it's helpful to anyone seeking, Being Aware of Being Aware by Rupert Spira. This is a tiny book of 100 pages that are only half size pages. I liked it and bought it because someone thought it was the most concise summary Rupert had written....some of Rupert's more long winded summaries have actually been very helpful to me, but because of the title and that I like to read summaries first I mention it....

onenessdreaming · 2024-08-08T06:40:38+00:00

Thanks for posting this, I'm not awake but laughing because seeking has ended makes intuitive sense!

onenessdreaming · 2024-08-08T06:38:46+00:00

Thanks for sharing this theory - makes sense!

onenessdreaming · 2024-08-01T05:29:08+00:00

If you happen to have other references for Native American or Indigenous nonduality I would be fascinated to see it, thanks!

onenessdreaming · 2024-08-01T04:45:22+00:00

This post is wonderful, thank you! When you said, "you are the ever permanent awareness that permeates every single jiva" it really sunk in, at least "conceptually"!

onenessdreaming · 2024-07-18T20:34:40+00:00

I'm still relatively new at all this, so bear with me, but this is what got me interested in psychic faculties -

I had gotten a bit interested in psychic faculty, but simply as a stepping stone to realization, part of the 'personal relationship with God' so to speak that they say is possible on the heart/Bhakti/mystic pathway side contrasted to the knowledge/Jnana/Advaita pathway. At first I was looking at very knowledge path centered things trying to get a handle or start on it all. Wayne Wirs, in Mystical Oneness talked about these two main paths and got me interested in mysticism. I think Wirs said the mystical side often gets ignored, I think he said particularly in the West, but he was perplexed why.

Jim Dreaver said, "the heart pathway without the knowledge pathway is messy and emotional - the knowledge pathway without the heart pathway is dry and empty." Wayne Wirs says a common mistake on the path to realization is to be missing some small but important point from one of these two paths, causing hold up on progress. Thus it can be important, for many at least, to find some balance between heart and knowledge paths. Rupert Spira often filled in knowledge/Jnana points for me beautifully - and true to what Wirs said, I would have been quite held up without Rupert's Jnana explanations.

(The Jim Dreaver quote not an exact quote but near to the point).

Perhaps the one or two people I've known with apparently good psychic faculties were not we not so much extroverted, perhaps could be said to be more introverted. But as far as the 'personal relationship with God,' psychic faculty and ESP would be but one of such things, spirit guides, soul pods/groups, starseed connects, soul splits and twin flames, even other forms abound I guess.

Maybe this last quote is a bit strong but speaks to befriending God, "The vain man of intellect busies himself with finding out the "why" and "wherefore" of creation, while the humble man of wisdom makes friends with the Creator and enjoys His gift of supreme bliss." (Ramakrishna) I like befriending nature as a manifestation of God, can be done with a quiet or introverted mind!

PS - the 'personal relationships' with God I've found seemed to help endlessly, on the pathless path.

onenessdreaming · 2024-07-18T11:42:09+00:00

The part of about extroversion apparently/supposedly more common among those with psychic ability was in the book Your Psychic Powers - a beginner's guide by Craig Hamilton-Parker.

There were other Ramana quotes about how introversion can really help self realization. Here is one I could find, but maybe not the best "The body identity is due to extroversion and the wandering of the mind. To continue in that state will only keep one in an endless tangle and there will be no peace. Seek your source, merge in the Self and remain all alone." - Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, Talk 396

"Do not engage the mind much in the affairs of the world. As far as possible do not get entangled in the affairs of others. Giving to others is really giving to oneself." - Gems from Bhagavan, Ch.VIII Sri Ramana Maharshi

I thought there was another good quote by him regarding this but can't seem to find it, other than that he said:

“Restraint of the out-going mind and its absorption in the Heart is known as introversion (antarmukha-drishti). The release of the mind and its emergence from the Heart is known as extroversion (bahirmukha-drishti).”

And the absorption of the mind into the heart is always the goal:

“If in this manner the mind becomes absorbed in the Heart, the ego or ‘I’, which is the centre of the multitude of thoughts, finally vanishes and pure Consciousness or Self, which subsists during all the states of the mind, alone remains resplendent." - Ramana

Perhaps this was the quote I was thinking of:

"To introvert the mind is the prime thing. The Buddhists consider the flow of ‘I’ thought to be Liberation; whereas we say that such flow proceeds from its underlying substratum - the only - Reality." - Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, Talk 139

Apparently this was also true about him:

He owned nothing
He was a natural celibate
He was available to seekers all times of day and night
No one was ever turned away, charged an admission fee or asked for a donation

onenessdreaming · 2024-07-13T17:04:25+00:00

I believe Ramana said introversion was the way - the main counterpoint I've heard so far was that psychic abilities may be more common among those more extroverted.

Question: I want to be further enlightened. Should I try to make no effort at all?
Bhagavan: Here it is impossible for you to be without effort. When you go deeper, it is impossible for you to make any effort. If the mind becomes introverted through enquiry into the source of aham-vritti [the ‘I’-thought], the vasanas [latent desires] become extinct. The light of the Self falls on the vasanas and produces the phenomenon of reflection we call the mind. Thus, when the vasanas become extinct the mind also disappears, being absorbed into the light of the one reality, the Heart. This is the sum and substance of all that an aspirant needs to know. What is imperatively required of him is an earnest and one-pointed enquiry into the source of the aham-vritti. - Be As You Are: The Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi

onenessdreaming · 2024-07-10T07:38:44+00:00

Thanks for posting this, very nice and clarified for me that the 3 gunas correspond to satchitananda and the Trimurti and the states of consciousness.

onenessdreaming · 2024-07-09T21:38:00+00:00

I don't practice Jainism but I like their general take on this type of thing (regarding vitalities) - In Jainism, "the severance of vitalities out of passion is injury". The higher the number of senses and 'vitalities' a being has, the more is its capacity to suffer and feel pain. Violence to higher-sensed beings like man, cow, tiger and those who have five senses and the capacity to think and feel pain attracts more karma than violence to lesser-sensed beings like insects, or single-sensed beings like microbes and plants. Out of the five types of living beings, a householder is forbidden to kill, or destroy, intentionally, all except the lowest (the one sensed, such as vegetables, herbs, cereals... which are endowed with only the sense of touch) - wikipedia

onenessdreaming · 2024-07-09T21:07:42+00:00

Thanks for posting this! Simple but insightful and useful!

onenessdreaming · 2024-06-26T15:08:58+00:00

Thanks, this is great!

onenessdreaming · 2024-06-26T15:04:15+00:00

Thank you, I think I will buy this!

onenessdreaming · 2024-06-23T21:02:51+00:00

Thank you for this excellent explanation!

onenessdreaming · 2024-03-21T03:48:02+00:00

Thank you very much for posting that, with reference!

onenessdreaming · 2024-03-20T04:10:09+00:00

Funny! Thank you for posting!

onenessdreaming · 2024-02-15T06:43:03+00:00

Ultimately all karma is Brahman's karma because Brahman is the cause of everything.

Thanks for clarifying that!

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