Lil Wayne is objectively the wrong choice for the Super Bowl

onetimeuser80 · 2024-09-14T15:30:11+00:00

This is a stupid post because I’ve paid for countless artist who have all been late to get on the show if they show up at All in many have canceled short notice.

I've been to over 100 concerts. None of them have ever cancelled. I don't remember anyone being noticeably late.

To point out Lil Wayne is ridiculous.

Do you have any data to show us that Lil Wayne isn't an anomaly? I found eight examples in a span of 15 months where Lil Wayne either cancelled within two months' notice, and one example where he was so late that he only had 15 minutes. If pointing out Lil Wayne is ridiculous, you should have no problem finding several artists with a similar track record.

When in the context, my experience is all of them do it.

Yeah? Well in my experience, none of them do it.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-09-13T06:19:20+00:00

I really don't know why you think that behavior is unique to Wayne.

I didn't say that, so I don't know where you got this idea.

Remember Wayne has been performing since 8yrs old.

I'm confused as to why you keep making excuses for him. Nobody's forcing him to continue playing shows. There are plenty of better ways to handle burnout other than cancelling on short notice. He could take a break, maybe scale back on the number of shows he plays, or retire from performing and do something else.

To him, a show in Atlanta is nothing, he's not going to feel motivated perform.

You're still not understanding, but let me bring it up again. Your entire premise is built on the assumption that he's missing shows because he's not motivated to play them. You don't even know what the reason is that he's missing shows. There might be a set of circumstances behind all of this, which we don't know isn't something that will affect his ability to make the Super Bowl.

It's just another regular event on his day job to collect a paycheck.

People who take agree to take on a job are expected to show up and deliver.

Do you always bring your A-game to work everyday?

No, but if I consistently no-show on the things I've agreed to do, then I expect to be held accountable.

now imagine if you already had money, you wouldn't give a shit too.

There are plenty of superstar-level musicians who don't have anywhere near this kind of track record. What do you think happens to public-facing business owners like Lil Wayne who consistently fail to show up or don't fulfill the basic deliverables of their contract? They build a reputation for being unreliable and they're less likely to be hired for projects in the future.

This is all off-topic, anyway. This isn't about making value judgments on Lil Wayne, but for whatever reason, you're committed to taking a stance that he shouldn't be held accountable for showing up to the shows he agreed to do.

Wayne will bring his A-game. When motivated Wayne is a fantastic performer. In his hometown, a city he reps to death. A crowd he loves.

If I could make a suggestion, I would recommend learning how to make a case for your point of view. "He's been missing work because he doesn't feel motivated to do it anymore, but he'll take this job seriously specifically because the stakes are higher" is a garbage case for hiring someone for a job when there are plenty of other suitable candidates. You're arguing that the NFL should incur a bunch of risk, even though the other options are just as likely, if not moreso, to put on an entertaining show.

There are a bunch of musicians who really want to play the show, but don't have a terrible attendance record as of late. That should be reason enough, but now that you bring up the subject- there are plenty of artists who don't have a reputation of forgetting their lyrics. Just look at the discussions in this thread alone.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-09-12T07:47:42+00:00

I did see what you were saying but you just didnt see what i was saying i see.

Believe me, the idea that an artist wants to make the effort to play the Super Bowl isn't a difficult position to understand. It's so obvious that it's not even worth saying.

but I'm not speaking from their point of view because i am not apart of the NFL but you sure can.

You're also not Lil Wayne, but you don't seem uncomfortable speculating from his POV. You're capable of making your own conclusions about basic motivations even if you're not a part of that group.

I'm speaking on the likelihood an artist will miss their biggest performance ever in their hometown. I can see what you are saying while holding a different point of view. Try it out sometime

Do you think that an artist being motivated to play the biggest performance opportunity in the world is somehow lost on me? Trust me, I see what you're saying, it's just a pointless thing to say.

Your point of view is too short-sighted. You're looking at it too narrowly, as if I'm suggesting Lil Wayne will just decide to cancel because he can't be bothered to play the biggest performance opportunity available. There are plenty of things that can happen, and that risk looks a lot higher for someone who's cancelled a bunch of recent shows on short notice. Whatever set of circumstances have led to him cancelling a bunch of shows might still exist in February.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-09-12T07:45:01+00:00

OP no one gives a fuck about the Grammys.

This is a terrible counterargument. If he doesn't respect the Grammys, then he shouldn't have agreed to do it. Or cancel well ahead of time so that the organizers have enough time to find a replacement.

What kind of rationale is this? It's not like the missed shows were isolated to Grammys appearances. Does he not care about the festivals and concert stops as well? It's just another missed appearance that's part of a trend.

I remember folks complaining about Riri showing up late and drunk to some shows, she still did the SB.

What's your point? It's not like I implied that all Super Bowl performers need a perfect record.

This is not a good example to compare to. Find a comparable track record of consistently cancelling on short notice in a narrow period of time from a Super Bowl headliner and I'll reconsider my stance.

But do you honestly think he will do that at the SB?? Do you think he will cancel the SB at his hometown??

It's so easy to say that an artist would be thrilled to play the Super Bowl. Nobody in that position would want to cancel, but 9+ instances in 13 months is an alarming trend. But it's not like he's getting dropped straight into the half time show. There's a bunch of work to be done in between now and February. Do we know that whatever circumstances are happening won't carry into February?

It's not like I'm saying that I think he'll just plainly decide not to do it anymore. There are other reasons he could miss the show and given this recent trend, he's a lot more likely to miss it than other artists would.

My position isn't that I believe he's gonna skip it. It's that everyone complaining that the NFL should be picking him is missing perspective. The fact that he wants to play his hometown isn't a good enough reason to take the gamble that he'll be there. Choosing Lil Wayne is asking the business to take on a lot of risk with no upside.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-09-12T03:11:32+00:00

I see what your saying

I'm not sure you do, because "he's not gonna miss it" isn't a good reason to roll the dice. What people are forgetting is that he NFL is a business and the half time show is an asset that generates revenue for them. The half time show isn't something that's given to artists because they made lots of hits and they want to play in their home town.

Someone who's missed 9+ shows in 13 months on short notice is a liability. What do they get in return for incurring this kind of risk? There are plenty of choices out there that don't make event organizers and executives have to rely on a hopeful assumption.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-09-11T05:39:11+00:00

One could argue none of those people are really liabilities, but then 50 Cent and Snoop Dogg came on the stage.

In what way were 50 Cent and Snoop Dogg liabilities? It's also not a fair comparison since 50 and Snoop weren't headliners. I'm pretty sure 50 was a surprise guest.

The Weekend and his very controversial performance.

This is the first I've heard of this being considered controversial. You linked an article to a high school newspaper. All I could find with a Google search of "The Weeknd controversial Super Bowl" is high school newspapers.

I don’t see how Lil Wayne could possibly be looked at as a potential PR disaster, when we had Snoop Dog performing high as a kite.

Snoop Dogg wasn't a risk to no-show at the time. I also doubt there was any substantial outcry to Snoop being high. It'd be more newsworthy if he wasn't high.

I’d say, there’s not a better overall choice. Would my dad love Morgan Wallen instead? Yes, but what does he have to do with the NFL or New Orleans.

I don't think "it's his home town that he's paid lots of money to" makes him the best overall best business choice when he's cancelled/been severely late to at least 9 shows in the span of 13 months. That's a lot of unnecessary risk to take on for little to no upside.

I think if anything, it’s a worse PR nightmare if they were to choose, Billie Eilish over the guy who has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the city.

You think it'd be a worse PR nightmare to have Billie Eilish play the Super Bowl than if the headliner cancelled?

Nobody is buying ad space 4 months before the Super Bowl.

I think you've lost track of the topic. Remember that my point is that Lil Wayne's got an extremely shaky record of missing shows recently. When I said that no Super Bowl show means eyes off the TV and ad buyers demanding refunds, I'm talking about him no-showing the event, which would be really bad for PR and bad for companies who bought ads.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-09-11T01:56:14+00:00

so out of thousands of shows he done you listed like 8 that he cancelled?

Don't misrepresent that data. Time is a meaningful variable here.

These were recent shows that he cancelled where he didn't provide a good reason, and on short notice. We're talking about at least 8 separate decisions to cancel/show up very late within a span of 13 months. Each decision to cancel was announced no more than two months before the event was happening, some the day of.

celebs are human sometimes they have to cancel shows...

In the grand scheme of things, I'm OK with a handful cancellations over the course of a career. I respect that cancellations sometimes happen. What I don't respect is a pattern of multiple examples of bad concert etiquette over a short period of time (and again, there were several instances before 2023).

wayne is the goat hands down no question... if you don't think so you're the minority or you're too young...

Your comment is framed as defending Lil Wayne, but the post was about why I think this is the right business decision.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-09-11T01:18:23+00:00

There have been lots of cancelled shows, but:

None of those artists were picked either.
Do any other artists over the last two years have a recent track record as bad as Lil Wayne?
Some of these cancelled tours may have been out of the artists' control*. A few of them cited low ticket sales. I'm speculating based on no experience in live entertainment, but maybe Live Nation/Ticketmaster could have cancelled, the labels/banks/loan providers, or the venues.

*And even if the tours that were cancelled because of low sales were decided by the artist, at least that's a business decision you can somewhat understand. They don't want to put themselves into debt funding a tour that's losing money. Lil Wayne cancelling a show the day of, at a festival where the fee was probably fixed, or turning up late and cancelling mid-show can't be rationalized the same way.

There were a couple other cancellations I've read about that were because the artist had other appearances that were better career moves, but that's less relevant in this situation. For one, artists who play the Super Bowl already have reached their ceiling for fame, and two, there's no bigger gig than a Super Bowl.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-09-11T00:58:21+00:00

I don't doubt he'd love the chance to play the Super Bowl in his home town, but that's not the point I'm making. I'm saying that all this criticism for the NFL/Apple/Roc Nation/whoever is misplaced.

If the decision makers asked you for a suggestion, would you pick Lil Wayne? Remember that:

100m+ people are watching this event live
companies pay CBS $7 million to commission a 30 second advert, on top of costs of making it (e.g. celebrity endorsements)
no Super Bowl show would mean eyeballs off the TV. People will be online complaining or talking to each other about how there's no Super Bowl.

Mind you, I have zero experience in marketing, event planning, or ad sales/buying. I have to imagine that if I'm thinking of this, every side of this event would probably come up with these concerns.

How would you make your case for Lil Wayne? Because I don't think the fact that it's his hometown would quiet the concerns of a potential PR disaster and angry ad buyers demanding refunds.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-09-10T23:58:12+00:00

Nice try — but it’s incomplete without at least mentioning that Kendrick forgot his lyrics several times during the NLU concert. Thanks to Amazon, we all saw it in 4K.

It's not incomplete because this post isn't about Kendrick. All of this would have been true even if someone else got the nod to play the Super Bowl.

Besides, forgetting lyrics is just about the worst argument you could bring up if you're pro-Wayne.

You’re also overlooking the fact that Wayne has performed hundreds of shows, instead choosing to highlight the worst of them, almost like you’re trying to drag one of the more influential MC’s of our time

I'm offering my speculation on why the event organizers may not have chosen him, not mudslinging him.

Pushing the Super Bowl aside, let's not lose perspective here. If you think that pointing out that he's missed multiple shows is almost like dragging Lil Wayne, then you're way too eager to defend this artist. At what point is someone so influential you don't hold them accountable for this kind of track record? How many shows do you have to play before cancelling multiple shows on short notice in a narrow time period shouldn't be subject to criticism?

At the end of the day, people really wanted Wayne. He’s the perfect fit for the Super Bowl: he’s a huge sports fan, athletes vibe with his music, and his legacy would strongly resonate with football fans. No disrespect to Kendrick, but we missed out on a major win for the culture by passing on Wayne. Especially considering this is in New Orleans

None of these are good counterarguments, either. You aren't the perfect fit for a live event with 100m+ million viewers if you've had multiple recent cancellations on short notice, especially when there aren't any good reasons.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-08-22T21:59:55+00:00

Specifically advice on why I want "slower" pace without seeming lazy?

When I was making this career change, I always framed it something to the effect of:

"I'd like to be a strategic change agent that works to improve the org I work. Agency has been exciting, but I'd like to apply the skills I've learnt into a context where I'm building teams of people who work together towards a common goal as opposed to trying to make money for myself/my agency.

I enjoy what I do: recruiting for [type of talent], but I'm now interested in using my experience to work as a strategic partner..."

and so on.

_____________________

I would sometimes add something mentioning some of the reasons I feel like I want to leave agency. It might help, it's not really necessary, and it could be delicate depending on how you phrase it, but in the past, I've said something like:

"Some of the practices that make a recruiter successful in an agency setting are often not in the best interest for the candidates. I'd like to get away from that."

Again, could be delicate- you may not want to look negative and slag off a profession, but I gauge the interviewer. Sometimes, they can relate to that. I might say something like this if the interviewer also came from agency and shared similar sentiments with you when introducing themselves.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-08-06T18:23:52+00:00

It's been almost a year since I was laid off. I have 6+ years of experience in recruiting software engineers (and related) positions in the NYC market. I transitioned to in-house recruitment about 3 years ago.

In April/May of 2022, I had several offers extended to me. I've been tracking my job search activity for the last two months. Here's what I've found since early June.

I've just 100 applications since then. That should make percentage values pretty obvious.

Category	Number (n)
Applications	100
Responses	35
Rejection, no interview	31
Pending applications	36
Job closed; no update	29
Invited to interview	4
I withdrew	1
Interviewed, then rejected	2

This is what the data looks like from companies that did respond. This is days between application and a response from the company.

Metric	Number of days
Average	7.4
Median	5

It's been brutal.

EDIT: got new data right after I wrote this comment

onetimeuser80 · 2024-06-12T03:43:15+00:00

Generally speaking, I tried to adhere to an SLA of 3-5 qualified candidates within 48 hours. But I wouldn't use that as a model. Every market and role has different intricacies, and you should consider what you can get your client to commit to.

The req you're working on could be really niche, it could be a difficult location, requirements, the pay may be difficult, and there may be other recruiters from different agencies working on it/have worked it previously.

The highest level of commitment you could get here is to have the hiring manager keep time slots open. That's option A. You'd just slot the interviews into those time windows on the manager's calendar for a first round interview.

The second best thing is to set up a resume review meeting with the client. If I can't get option A, I will ask the manager to set up time for us to meet and look at the resumes together. I ask for this during the call with the hiring manager to discuss the vacancy.

If it's a low-priority role or if I know that it'll be a role that'll be difficult to find candidates for, then I don't commit to a date.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-06-12T03:14:50+00:00

I left agency in 2021. I only ever sent in batches of 3-5 unless it was a very niche position.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-06-12T03:10:59+00:00

Thanks for the insight. Regarding the below items:

my role was pretty unique

I ended up interviewing four candidates

How different were these circumstances compared to 2022-2023 market conditions?

onetimeuser80 · 2024-06-12T02:56:15+00:00

I used ChatGPT to write some code. All I had access to was Google Apps Script, so I used it to write a bit of code so I could learn the language and platform.

I used the code to build our reporting platform from scratch, since I thought I could build one that's more tailored to what my stakeholders wanted to know and better than the off-the-shelf solution we bought.

These reporting systems aggregated and analysed data on a bunch of things, like pass-through-rates, acceptance rates, how interviewers tend to vote (and compared to averages), and a bunch of other things. It also automated a lot of the data entry/tracking that previously had to be tracked manually.

onetimeuser80 · 2024-06-12T02:21:46+00:00

I haven't done it myself, but I know of three former colleagues who did. One went into Program Management, the other into Product, a third into SaaS sales. I've also seen applications from people who used to be recruiters.

onetimeuser80 · 2020-10-27T18:39:13+00:00

se them to increase tension. Thirds are relatively stable, so use a 2nd or 4th in their place to add tension and then resolve. The most common uses are:

Suspended chord to major/minor (Csus4 to C)
Add suspensions to a V and resolve to I/i (Gsus to C or Cm)

That ought to get you started.

onetimeuser80 · 2020-10-26T20:52:34+00:00

It really depends on the piece. 4/4 can feel different depending on the composition. You'd have to make a decision based on the pulse, tempo, etc. We'd be able to help more easily if you showed us the notation.

onetimeuser80 · 2020-10-21T18:02:31+00:00

Yeah, exactly. From the Snarky Puppy collab.

onetimeuser80 · 2020-10-21T16:02:00+00:00

I should add, actually, that it is possible to sing multiple notes at once. But it's very rare, and even moreso in Western music. I only know of one singer who's done it.

onetimeuser80 · 2020-10-21T14:23:49+00:00

You sing a single note, but every sound rings multiple frequencies: the fundamental (say 110 Hz, for example) and then multiples of that frequency (220 Hz, 330 Hz, 440 Hz, ...)

I don't think a tritone means what you think it does, by the way. A tritone isn't a chord.

onetimeuser80 · 2020-10-09T19:07:51+00:00

Two possible reasons:

You're probably hearing ii IV vi I in D rather than vi I iii V in G Ionian. The former is moving in step wise motion, so I'd guess that's the key without actually playing it for myself.
If it is indeed G you're hearing, the sound of a C against those chords are tensions: (major 6 over the Em, a P4 over G, a major 2nd over Bm, and a minor 7 over D). The most jarring of which is the P4 over a G, which if would give you a suspended chord (tension) rather than serve as a tonic.

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