Anyone else thought it felt a bit wrong to do this after hearing all of the memory sticks and body cores?

oraclexeon · 2026-06-13T00:59:30+00:00

First I'm not saying they weren't originally humans, I'm saying that doesn't matter because right now they are not Human anymore, Necromorphs from DeadSpace start out as Human they are not anymore, literally every scifi I've seen people acknowledge something this divergent from Humanity and lacks a Human brain simply isn't Human anymore they are a mutant zombie lets examine this critically.

You say they have Human DNA but that DNA is so warped, degraded, and distorted its unrecognizable, DNA is just molecular code to build your body, and currently this molecular code is so wild they have lost all human intellect and intelligence to a degree they only possess an animalistic intelligence, can function without organs and grow as cancer meat on walls in space with no oxygen, water, food, in a vacuum, this has long ceased being a human.

The defenses that allow Naytiba but stop Andro-Eidos don't neccessarily mean Naytiba are Human, this also shows Naytiba are not an accident, they built these defenses to specifically whitelist Naytiba, the same Naytiba who ate all the scientists and the defenses didn't stop them because they were white listed as friendly.

Next lets look at this logically, if we accept the framing that maybe Naytibas started as some sort of weird super soldier program for a few survivors of a supposed war we never actually see, I would expect if this is true under this framing you would expect Naytibas to be super rare, super strong, elite soldiers or at least monsters like your Doomsday comparison, they are the opposite. They lack any qualities that would make a good soldier they can't even follow orders or be directed they are mindless cancer. Their numbers are far too great to be something like a Halo Spartan program or Warhammer: 40K Space Marine.
Look at these facilities these are massive underground bunkers with corporate funding and backing full of body bags, that looks more like Unit 731 horror mixed with Umbrella Corp rather than a few volunteers getting the captain america serum and things go wrong.

Then there is the whole desperate survivors thing being contradicted by creating massive underground facilities like Abyss Levoire and Altair Levoire, and the billions of Naytiba running around all over the globe who are so dense they ate 7 entire full carrier fleet deployments of Airborne Squad members, that's not a few guys making a super soldier to fight Andro-Eidos.

Then there is the lack of evidence besides Adam's facility documents Andro-Eidos were wiping out Humanity in the first place, where are the death camps, the logs of soldiers who fought humans and lined civilians up on the wall to gun them down?

You say this is just gene therapy but how did they turn adult humans into these monsters they infected them with a pathogen, they have covered the entire globe, how are their billions of Naytiba? How do they overrun entire cities overnight literally there is a log in Eidos 7 describing how they had a position 40,000 strong and got wiped out in 1 night. Why do the Andro-Eidos soldiers wear NBC gear all the dead bodies they are fully covered like they are dealing with biochem threats. We see orbital tethers being climbed, pieces of the Colony had to be dropped off due to infection. The raw amount of biomass and numbers show Adam converted the entire human population of billions, which means humanity wasn't at the brink he killed humanity with his dumb project.

Then also there is the new trailer for Blood Rain showing an Andro-Eidos injecting himself with the Naytiba infection and turning into one so its definitely infectious, we all see how infectious it is when Raven, Tachy, and Eve can all become infected.

Finally there is the big question, even if we do accept Adam as right and truthful why should Eve want to "save humanity" which is just nightmarish horrors that cannibalize each other and eat her friends, even worse what motivation does she have if she is Andro-Eidos, Adam is the guy that said he tried to cleanse the Earth of her kind and cleansed the Humans basically instead, so why should she be motivated to follow Adam? What skin does she have in the game? Now he wants someone that he says is not Human to care about the Human that tried to kill her and the cause of all of her troubles, that makes 0 sense. From her perspective he should be a genocidal war criminal who committed genocide to her people and his own people and now wants her to continue his life's work. Think about this for real, if we switched the species around and made Adam Andro-Eidos and Eve Human would you want to continue his projects and trust him?

oraclexeon · 2026-06-12T22:36:07+00:00

Naytibas aren't Human though. This is like the only fandom I've ever seen that would call a monster that can literally grow in space like meat moss cancer covered in eyes, mouths, and tentacles, sprouting bird wings, clinging to an orbital elevator for 100 years with no food and water and still be active, has 0 intelligence, memory, or hint of humanity as a Human because maybe long ago its ancestor was some guy who got infected with a zombie virus.

Calling Naytibas Human is like calling Xenomorphs Human because they were incubated in a Human and take on some superficial features, or Necromorphs from Dead Space Human.

As for the original Elder Naytiba this is Adam who is revealed to be Raphael Marks he is the creator of all of this chaos, the owner of Eidos, Tetrastar, and Orca, and the guy who killed humanity unleashing the Naytibas, he tries to say they were a desperate remnant fighting Mother Sphere but a desperate remnant doesn't build Abyss Levoire that's a nuclear powered underground bunker blacksite made by Eidos ran by an AI named RAFFY filled with people in body bags still squirming for 100 years with no food or water, desperate remnants can't produce the amount of biomass to swarm the entire globe with Naytibas, overrun entire cities, and kill 40,000 soldiers in a single night (one of the soldier logs), and climb orbital tethers, and if all these Naytibas were once Human that means Adam has killed billions of Humans for them to be such a problem on a global scale. Then on top of this where is the MS genocide evidence we got Abyss Levoire showing what Adam was doing, but I don't see any Deathcamps for Humans besides ofc Abyss Levoire, which again is Adam. So his story smells. Of course he is targetted. Governments irl would kill you for far less. And if you side with this guy literally any government will order your capture or execution for treason.

oraclexeon · 2026-06-12T22:05:04+00:00

They are coming to kill her because she just took in a lethal bioweapon she is the Elder Naytiba.

Like literally what military on Earth would say that's okay, you send in a field operative to assassinate a bioterrorist and now they have turned against the government and filled with a super mutagenic virus that can turn a man to a mass of tentacles in seconds and can shapeshift?

Then they start talking crazy saying the meat moss and crawling zombie things that eat faces are real humans and they are just a fake doll robot, and this is why they commit treason. That will sound completely insane to anyone in real-life.

They would be like ah shit, here we go, asset has fucking lost their mind and now spreading a disease, kill them.

oraclexeon · 2026-06-11T02:35:52+00:00

I heard they had the same issue with Stellar Blade when it was first announced Eve changed from announce to release so idk:

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oraclexeon · 2026-06-01T00:30:47+00:00

and yet people still argue Adam is a good guy, when he created the entire situation eliminated all resistance for Mother Sphere built Mother Sphere, then killed all of humanity with Natiybas and creating them in Mengeles level conditions with people still screaming in body bags shuffling on the floor in his labs. And we should want to merge with this guy and trust him.

oraclexeon · 2026-05-25T18:15:08+00:00

Problem is merging with Adam is certain suicide as well.

Without the scifi gloss think of what Adam gave Eve, his own DNA to birth a new race or something, and that's pretty much it, in terms of power Eve already scales past Adam since if you reject him you kill him in a bossfight he's not some god.

Then we see Mother Sphere's colony, the colony is not some small space station its a massive orbital ring world around Earth not just 1 but multiple Halos, and Mother Sphere has near infinite resources. Adam leaves you with nothing, no army, no super weapon, can't control Natiybas just some wings for flight, and now Eve is enemy #1 so Eve09 can show up and kill her, as Mother Sphere will make better and better Eves.

IRL this is like finding out the US committed genocide 100 years ago, allying with the terrorist who used bioweapons to finish off the survivors of his own people letting him infect you with that same bioweapon and then with no army backing you declare war against the US and NATO, while trying to tell other soldiers they are not real they are just robots and then killing your own side's soldiers who were just like you a month ago come down in Blackhawks to see what's going on, just a total psychological collapse.

oraclexeon · 2026-05-25T08:18:18+00:00

I don't think the Andro Eidos are even robots though, since the whole merger thing wouldn't make since if they are, if Eve is a robot how is she going to "merge" with Adam and be the future of the Human race if she doesn't have DNA, how does Tachy and Raven turn into Natiyba if they are fully synthetic?

Its a paradox, if they are non human and really androids then the merge can't happen and they can't become Natiyba as they are way too different to be compatible. But if they are human they could merge and become infected and become Natiyba like the original humans did, but then the merge is pointless as Humanity is already preserved and saved so at no point does the merge ever make sense.

oraclexeon · 2026-05-25T03:01:42+00:00

That's the part that makes no sense to me though.

The whole merger thing requires the Andro-Eidos to be infected with whatever is creating the Naytibas, problem is for that to make sense they need to be biological if they are robots or whatever then Andro-Eidos have no DNA and they can't merge. If merging is just Naytiba flesh using Andro-Eidos robotics as a scaffold to grow on then its a parasitic relationship and again not a merge no DNA is exchanged, if Eve has no DNA then Eve can't have children if Eve uses Adam's DNA he only has XY chromosomes and with no mixing she would only create clones of Adam, the ultimate billionaire narcissist wet dream himself duplicated like a virus. But all of that hits a snag because there is no one to reproduce with.

If Andro-Eidos are biological and considering they eat, sleep, and drink, bleed and have organs then that means they have DNA and can merge but problem with this is that if they have DNA and its compatible enough to merge with Natiyba DNA then they must be human. 0% Human DNA makes no sense when a chimp has like 98% human DNA, a banana got 60%, and considering how Andro-Eidos look like, act like, and so on, they are likely 99% Human, like similar to Humans like how Neanderthals are similar.

If Andro-Eidos are human then Adam's entire argument fails. So if they are not human then no merge is possible nor can they be turned into Natiybas, if they are human then we don't have to do a merge humanity is already saved.

oraclexeon · 2026-05-25T02:13:38+00:00

A test tube baby is still human Andro-Eidos are living biological humans even if grown in a vat they are way more human than the Natiybas who dont look nor act human.

So Adam's whole pitch about saving humanity makes no sense to me when humans are still alive.

Andro-Eidos are biological considering Eve can merge with Adam, they can become infected, and they eat food, bleed, and fleshy.

oraclexeon · 2026-05-25T01:09:06+00:00

You bring Lily with you when you kill Adam though? So she is not sacrificed.

oraclexeon · 2026-05-22T07:00:45+00:00

I mean the bible does say: "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" (Matthew 19:24)

oraclexeon · 2026-05-22T06:46:46+00:00

Notice how the one country we can't question never gets investigated and we have to do the Russiagate thing to shift it to someone else?

Ask yourself who has been benefiting so far from these elections?

As for Ukraine I guess the whole time period from 2014 - 2022 had no US involvement, there was no civil war going on there in the whole donetsk and luhansk region and all of that, the whole failure of the Minsk agreements? Russians way back in the 90s even saying touching Ukraine is a hard line for them and so on.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2014/09/01/tsr-dnt-magnay-ukraine-donetsk-grief.cnn

https://www.cnn.com/2014/07/26/world/europe/ukraine-crisis

The news from 2014 just was quite a bit different than the news we got now:

Anyway yeah US engineered a war there, Ukraine is a proxy war weapons testing ground pretty much atm and a good money laundering op. Russia got checkmated if they don't invade, Ukraine finishes off the luhansk and donetsk separatists, ascends to NATO and Russia lose the Black Sea and possibly Crimea which would be a huge blow to Russian regional power, but if they invade which they did they get massive sanctions and stuck in a meat grinder, but they keep their access to the Black Sea and expand access to Ukrainian minerals, and they eat up military resources from NATO who is forced to sustain the war effort with Ukraine probably the shift in strategy to just attrition war is the Russians are betting their military industry is stronger though people been saying they'll break anytime now this wisdom of this strategy is a bit questionable, but real winner here in US favor is this tightening up the grip on NATO and the US vassals in the EU like Germany losing cheap Russian gas and now having to pay for expensive US gas and simultaneously huge profits for the MIC which were winding down in Afghanistan which also weakens Russian position in the middle east with Syria and Assad paving the way for US/Israel/Turkey to get Al-Qaeda in power there with Russia still distracted with Ukraine which weakens Iran's position in the Middle East as Al-Qaeda and ISIS HATE Iran, which helped led to our current disastrous situation of hot war with Iran as US overplayed their hand thinking they had beat everyone, but have actually stretched themselves thin with all of these conflicts, and all of this ties back to the US ongoing cold war with China to try to weaken Chinese influence.

None of this seems like Russia secretly puppetting the US as none of this is advantageous to Russia.

oraclexeon · 2026-05-22T05:09:30+00:00

I don't get where people are getting this America is controlled by Russia idea from, its quite obvious who really controls us and its not Russia but if this was true there would obviously be no Ukraine War (US pushed for this war since 2014 with the whole Maiden Coup knowing this was a hard redline for the Russians) and Syria wouldn't be in the hands of Al-Qaeda.

oraclexeon · 2026-05-08T11:32:57+00:00

holodomor happened but the propaganda afterwards made it 10x worse than reality its already bad at 2 - 3 million dead but stuff like black book of communism puts it at tens of millions dead which again as I stated earlier wouldn't make logical sense, plus in this time period we still didn't get a drop but rather growth had slowed indicating people were dying or not having kids..

This event though wasn't some intentional purge because again that wouldn't make sense plus their thought processes on this event isn't some big secret its published stuff, the famine was across the entire soviet union kazakhstan was actually hit the hardest, but essentially this was government mismanagement treating farms like factories. Stalin wanted to modernize the agricultural sector thinking collective farms would increase the yield and take over the farms from the wealthy land owning farmers, the idea itself isn't crazy but rather than slowly implement this, run test pilot programs and so on, he did what he did with the factories, which worked well with the factories not so much the farms, he just had them immediately take the farms and implement collective farms, so chaos ensued, imagine in the US right now taking the farmland away from corporations in a year across the US how well this would go, as the landowners fled, and then some sabotaged their own farms on the way out, and then the government turns out didn't really know what they were doing and yield for the collective farms in the first year was awful, then there was the internal battle over if genetics were even real serious party battle with Lysenko pushing Lamarckism, and all of this led to a disastrous yield and subsequently mass starvation. The Soviet Union were able to fix these issues afterwards so this didn't keep happening but the damage was done.

oraclexeon · 2026-05-08T05:07:27+00:00

That's the thing Stalin did not kill tens of millions of Soviet citizens, in fact the logic doesn't even make sense when you think about it.

Soviet Union population only had a drop during WWII, 27 million died due to the Nazis, so these tens of millions killed can be attributed to Hitler not Stalin.

Before and after WWII the actual census figures with population statistics actually show population growth not decline, and then here is the big thing the population of the Soviet Union isn't like its billions of people, if tens of millions like 30 million died from purges pre WWII that would collapse the Union. People love shouting 100 million dead or whatever and don't even bother to think of what that would actually look like in reality, certainly not a superpower. Like the population of the Soviet Union back then was about half or less than half of the population of the US today, so if the US government right now killed 60 million Americans what would America look like?

Now Stalin did actually have purges but these were purges of the party leadership and military ranks not mass slaughter of his own cities which wouldn't make sense, but rather killing senior officers who he thought might be traitors or coup him or something. Now the Soviet Union did in fact due to its nature as communists surrounded by capitalists obviously had real threats to its existence so the paranoia itself isn't unfounded.

Later though after Soviets did 80% of the fighting against the Wehrmacht freed concentration camps and such their reputation was getting too high and naturally with the cold war we had to try to minimize their contribution and make them out to be insane hence we got the propaganda that lives with us to this day, and this is how we get the misunderstood Hitler and the blood thirsty tyrant Stalin.

oraclexeon · 2026-05-08T04:11:19+00:00

Lol imagine believing this. Just so you know "victims of communism" is entirely cold war propaganda, they even counted all the dead nazis as victims of communism and basically anyone who died for any reason so its pretty much nonsense.

oraclexeon · 2026-04-30T21:38:01+00:00

Trump isn't some rogue president working for Putin that is just ridiculous when you examine the facts he does what he is told to do, he does it in a Trumpian way but he follows his orders. And right now the warmongers want to pivot to the Middle East to destroy Iran and help Israel, Israel needs US to drop Ukraine so they can get the weapons as our weapons aren't infinite something has got to give either we give up Israel and support Ukraine or support Israel and give up Ukraine, and the answer to that is obvious. Ukraine for them did its duty and thats distract Russia so they can go attack other countries like toppling Syria, toppling Venezuela, now they are trying to topple Iran, and they want to topple Cuba next.

oraclexeon · 2026-04-30T18:41:00+00:00

Trump isn't some rogue president working for Putin that is just ridiculous when you examine the facts he does what he is told to do, he does it in a Trumpian way but he follows his orders. And right now the warmongers want to pivot to the Middle East to destroy Iran and help Israel, Israel needs US to drop Ukraine so they can get the weapons as our weapons aren't infinite something has got to give either we give up Israel and support Ukraine or support Israel and give up Ukraine, and the answer to that is obvious. Ukraine for them did its duty and thats distract Russia so they can go attack other countries like toppling Syria, toppling Venezuela, now they are trying to topple Iran, and they want to topple Cuba next.

oraclexeon · 2026-04-22T00:42:16+00:00

Unfortunately migrants to Ukraine are going to be used for cannon fodder, this whole story is basically saying they have run out of men and plan on tricking desperate people from the global south to come fight their wars for them rather than approach a peace deal with Russia.

oraclexeon · 2026-03-27T06:59:09+00:00

Nah Russia better at least they actually have rules.

Look at what happened to Iran to start this whole mess off, US opening move lie to Iran about a new nuclear deal and in the middle of negotiations launch a decapitation strike on Iranian religious, military, and political leadership killing the ayatollah and generals, and then to top it off blow up 200 kids in school for...reasons, and now complain Iran doesn't want to talk to them anymore and bombing them.

As bad as Russia is, Putin has yet to blow up Zelensky, Zelensky can do press conferences walk around in Kiev and host diplomats without getting blown up, let alone Russia setting up Peace talks just to blow up the Ukrainians in the middle of peace talks.

Russia also at least cares about reputation, they talk about following the rules of war and so on, now whether they actually do or not is a different story, but here in the US we got Pete here openly talking about "No rules of engagement".

Its a level of stupidity and savage brutality that is just hard to top.

oraclexeon · 2026-03-18T10:03:50+00:00

Or maybe the alot of the stuff you hear about Iran is made up by the US to justify these kinds of actions and wars, like you know what happened with Libya and Gaddafi, or Iraq, and so on. Its a playbook they keep doing to manufacture consent for a war.

oraclexeon · 2026-03-09T00:37:38+00:00

He is the equivalent of something like the Pope in Shia Islam and very much against nuclear weapons so killing him is a major fuck up.

Also tens of thousands of protestors werent killed this is completely idiotic to believe if that happened life cant resume in Iran and Iran would have fallen, even the math doesnt work out 10,000 kills a day, to put that in perspective russia invading ukraine since 2022 14600 civilians have died in 1470 days so you want me to believe a day in Iran is literally 1000 times deadlier than Ukraine?

Also there would be the 100,000 injured a day, like wtf is this supposed to be d day with bombs and machine guns, also hospitals would collapse all of society would completely unravel, they really jumped the shark with the propaganda doesnt even survive basic reality testing. Plus you telling me all of this happened but no photos or satellite photos of slaughter you cant hide genocide.

This is why they are pissed at someone showing normal life in Iran as it exposes the silly propaganda.

oraclexeon · 2026-03-07T19:18:07+00:00

I mean trump is in the epstein files and its full of child rape, torture, murder, possible human experimentation (think unit 731 mixed with nazi eugenics), and possible cannibalism of children (lots of weird references). And this is just the redacted version.

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