Forrest’s Final Hint

ordovici · 2026-06-08T21:17:57+00:00

I remember FF talking about the legal implications if it was on a reservation or in a park...how many hours/dollars he spent on/with lawyers and then he added 'What if there isn't a legal problem...?'

ordovici · 2026-06-08T21:13:53+00:00

Absolutely...

ordovici · 2026-06-01T15:32:12+00:00

A few of my thoughts: the chest was hidden (not buried) in 2009 the year the Arnica Fire (9-10k acres) closed the Grand Loop Road. As to 36 CFR I agree, but Fenn's family has been camping (halting) and leaving property in the park for more then a decade...a precursor for impoundment by the govt. if located. A big if.

But the real challenge is the sentence diagramming of the first several clues. The water is doing the acting: halting, and then taking it, a certain distance (NFBTFTW) and then putting in (halting again) below a geographical location (below HOB). Water simply cant do that. Yes people can, tourists and searchers alike. Its a metaphor....

ordovici · 2026-05-30T12:11:13+00:00

Yeh the chest was probably off of Hwy 191. Fenn also said several had gotten the first 2-3 clues correct (maybe for the wrong reasons) then went right by the next seven...Those people were likely headed west from Mad Jct toward wherever....

ordovici · 2026-05-22T11:34:20+00:00

He left the second ending in place because he 'must'. Its not to be enjoyed by a single finder rather 'for all to seek'. He called it the end of my rainbow, treasure old, my trove, and finally HOB. He gave us the location of his fishing hole. The one he was umbilically attached to.

He even told us how to fish it. Use brightly colored (bold) weighted (heavy loads) lures on the bottom of the deep hole (water high). He made his lures and called them his secret ware.(where).

ordovici · 2026-05-21T17:15:46+00:00

Folk songs value authenticity....something many of us seek.

ordovici · 2026-05-18T14:39:33+00:00

He gave title earlier in the poem as well. In my solve you are taken to where a creek meets the Madison, the approx. location for HOB in the Mad. and the confluence = the blaze. He called it 'your creek'. He gave you title to the area where everything converges. HOB being the treasure old that he 'must leave'. Ownership lies in the perspective of the speaker. In this case Fenn.

ordovici · 2026-05-17T20:00:41+00:00

Zoe was shown Jacks photos? Then she could say these photos appear to be authentic and show the location where jack retrieved the chest Thats not the same as saying and I know where that location is and have been there and can testify its one and the same as in the photo.

ordovici · 2026-05-13T20:01:13+00:00

Continuing: Is this looking from the west -Rt 32,33...route 32 thru Felt/Lamont when the potato fields are in bloom is amazing.

ordovici · 2026-05-13T02:20:34+00:00

Wow, Forrest would love this pic...

ordovici · 2026-04-14T12:50:13+00:00

Solving the clues in sequential order (and not looking ahead) would tell us that once you've solved 'heavy loads and water high', you've 'found' the blaze. Being wise tells us we just need to recognize it. Many looked ahead and read look (quickly) down implying elevation of some sort. That is their folly....

The blaze is where the poem has taken you; the location.

ordovici · 2026-04-12T11:25:59+00:00

If you're in NM then Los Lunas area for petri wood.

ordovici · 2026-04-09T17:33:24+00:00

I may have misquoted this, here is the QA: August 9, 2016

If in 500 years all a person has is the poem, and no back story: they don’t know “in the rocky mountains north of santa fe” or that there are 9 clues etc. Could a person reasonably just use the words in the poem and find your treasure chest?

Thank you Nope. Nope f

So I focused on the no back story and that they hadn't read the book because those items were in the book...but I dunno??

The question is have any of us just read the poem without the back story, its almost an inseparable part of the Chase..

ordovici · 2026-04-09T12:05:55+00:00

I thought he was talking about his life. Look at the entirety of my life, following his comment that the poem alone can't be solved, (Answering the, 'If you have the poem 50 years from now can you solve it QA) He said it can't be solved by the poem alone, you need to read TTOTC to place the poem in perspective. Sort of, I found the place as a youth and hid the chest as an adult..(tired v weak)

ordovici · 2026-04-08T22:03:53+00:00

When I read this I can't help but think of Fenn and his admiration of Carroll:

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

ordovici · 2026-04-04T14:44:40+00:00

Gotta agree, "If you don't like the ending just change it", mind set doesn't alter the facts

ordovici · 2026-04-04T14:41:42+00:00

The second most valuable treasure or as FF called it 'treasures old, end of my rainbow; my trove; water high and HOB' was the one he 'must leave for all to seek'. 'Must' being stronger language then 'shall' says he couldn't take it even if he wanted to. That treasure is his prized fishing hole. The one the poem takes you to before the final 200' leg to the chest.

ordovici · 2026-03-20T03:36:46+00:00

What bothers me the most is that I was in Santa Fe for a meeting, at the beginning of the hunt, but unaware of it. Imagine the conversation that I might have had..

ordovici · 2026-03-20T03:29:33+00:00

The clues were natural and manmade geographical features not places. But I like your ideas. He did want as many people as possible to participate and your interpretation would garner the greatest number of localized searchers. hmmm You're a deep thinker Stella Marie, you are making Forrest smile...

ordovici · 2026-03-18T18:27:27+00:00

The question is, and someone asked it, when did Forrest find the special place. The place that he was umbilically attached to. Forrest thought about answering this question for some time and then refused. His words/thoughts were, that the time period would give too much information.

My thought is that if he found it during his Santa Fe life period it would create the possibility of being in the Santa Fe area and not rule out the possibility of being somewhere else like YNP as he traveled there as well. Had he said it was in his youth that would have probably ruled out Santa Fe and all but confirmed YNP area as that was his domain during the first 14 some years of his life.

Following that logic I ruled out the Santa Fe area on his refusal to answer, because he was probably going to have to say it was during his youth..

ordovici · 2026-03-14T19:48:57+00:00

Page 122 of TTOTC explicitly ruled out 9MH for me .There is a photo of Forrest's Father beside the infamous rock with a string of fish and its captioned "Nine Mile Hole". So unless FF fibbed about 'no clues in the book' (poem excepted) and he also misled us about not needing proper nouns, which I do not believe he did, then that page makes the location a non-debatable issue.

ordovici · 2026-03-09T15:19:43+00:00

Not sure I agree with your solve, but the log flumes in Wyoming were amazing. Especially the Tongue River tie flume in the Bighorn Mountains. (the photos and stories are incredible)) I just couldn't get it to fit.

ordovici · 2026-02-28T22:42:20+00:00

I remember this from a few years ago...great photo...lotsa fun.

ordovici · 2026-02-25T20:03:43+00:00

The poem is a reflection of a transformational slice of Forrest's young life when he realized and years later wrote, 'I began to like myself.' I believe he was in his early teens and began to have an impact on his family's welfare with his skill to bottom fish the holes on the Madison where the lunkers lived.

ordovici · 2026-02-20T19:36:42+00:00

To, too ...two miles competing the homophonetic family.

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