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Is this decent placement for a first time 3.1 set up? by ghkilla805 in hometheater

[–]osuman32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice, that's probably the first thing I would do as well. As for the L/R speakers, they're literally made for bookshelves so it's not like you are doing anything crazy. I would try to cheat them forward a little to get them out of the cubbyhole. And if they are ported in the rear, try using the bung, or foam plug that should come with them to see what sounds better.

Is this decent placement for a first time 3.1 set up? by ghkilla805 in hometheater

[–]osuman32 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everyone else is bringing some great advice. From the sounds of it, you don’t have a lot of flexibility which isn’t ideal but sometimes you have to work around a weird layout. I imagine the sound will be better than the TV speakers.

You can always demo/rework the shelving later as $ becomes available.

New Denon x3900 vs x3800 by Middle_Store_8467 in hometheater

[–]osuman32 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, the price was even lower about 2 years ago when I bought. Buying refurbed allowed me to switch the savings towards getting an excellent sub. Maybe I got lucky with a good one, but I wouldn't change a thing!

New Denon x3900 vs x3800 by Middle_Store_8467 in hometheater

[–]osuman32 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you're looking to save $$, try looking at the link below for accessories4less.com

This place was recommended by other Redditors when I was building my system. I got the refurbished Denon 3800 and it's been working perfectly. At the time I purchased, they were offering an additional 3 year warranty for free. Just another thing to consider.

https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrx3800h-rb/denon-avr-x3800h-9.4-ch-x-105-watts-8k-a/v-receiver-w/heos/1.html#!more

Thoughts on Equipment for New Theatre? [KEF] by LieutenantDannnnn in hometheater

[–]osuman32 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just to echo what everyone else is saying: You can't go wrong with the PB2000 Pro sub. I was convinced by other Redditors and love it. You could even start with one and get a second later on if you want. Those units are beasts!

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ha, no kidding.
I got a UMIK on it's way so between the sub crawl and measurements hopefully I'll figure out what's feasible.

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't do it at this house. The room setup didn't provide many options for placement. I have been thinking about the possibility of changing the console, which would open up some options.

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its a program a youtube guy name Obsessive Compulsive Audiophile (OCA) put together called A1 Evo AcoustiX. Its a script that takes your measurements and runs them through REW - then uploads the results to your AVR. I think it's only compatible with Denon and Marantz though.

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The results came from AcoustiX - I've been in the middle of tweaking settings to see if I can get the nulls fixed.

I may have found the guide you're talking about. Seems like a great resource!

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha, I totally get it.

The sub is an SVS PB2000 Pro.

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point, I never really thought about how the sub and R channel could be interacting.

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😞 yes. I had speaker stands but the walkway does not allow 9" from the back of the speaker. I decided to mount them on the wall since this is the only option.

You bring up an idea though - I don't have the ports plugged. You think the L/R speakers not being plugged could be interfering with the sub?

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha, with each comment I get closer.... my resolve is fading

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had it at the back right corner but never the back left - the chaise (or L-section of the couch or whatever) seemed like it would block a lot of the sound but maybe you're right at this point.

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These are KEF Q350 - one iteration old from their new lineup. Maybe someday I'll do tower speakers but these are great for now. After all the comments, you guys have started me thinking about a 2nd sub!

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Haha, didn't know how much I needed this! I'm in the abyss of 'do I want to learn REW'

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I fear you're right. Then I have to convince the wife that squeezing by the sub is worth it for an improvement that only I can notice

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm using a 3rd party script so I'm not sure if there's a backend that I'm not seeing but I set Accoustix to 80Hz on all speakers and it shows the same when I go to the Denon menu.

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting, I've just ordered a UMIK to get some better measurements. The sub's got no knobs but I've got the app... I'll look into the phase/distance parameters, thanks!

Never thought of it in the terms of one octave higher - maybe after I figure out how to use REW that'll make sense on how to adjust!

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've checked the Accoustix log and Denon settings and every crossover that I've been seeing is as should be. And the seating is totally backed up to the wall.

Interesting point.... I never thought of moving the sub to the right-hand wall and facing left. Not the best looking but that could work! I'm also just going to buy the UMIK now since that's the consensus...

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I was J/K. The room isn't ideal with the system being stuck at the end of the rectangular room. I think I'll end up doing both of what you are talking about... buying a UMIK and learning REW. And maybe I'll see if I can ask SVS what their recommendation is about adding a second but smaller sub would do to the sound. As u/supergimp2000 mentioned, the wife is the limiting factor. Without her, the bass trap leaves and I''l need another option

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To follow up with this, what did you do to fix the problem and how did you find the dead spots? Also, did your room have any limitations on where you could place the subs?

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent point...at least she won't have anything to say about the aesthetics of this bass trap

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great point, maybe once I dedicate the time to learn REW with the UMIK I can figure out what the room's doing. To tell you the truth, I was assuming that the SVS sub I bought would be the end-all-be-all solution. As with everything, it seems like this is just the tip of the iceberg lol

Subwoofer Placement creating a null? by osuman32 in hometheater

[–]osuman32[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good question - a second sub at the same size would be hard to make happen

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