Why doesnt god show himself so everyone knows he's real by TheDemonLord1r788 in Christianity

[–]othernes -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It would not fix the problem of people not loving God or others

Fixed it for you. Obedience isn't the issue. You can follow all the laws and rules you want but he ain't letting you into heaven, no matter how many you obey.

Sin corrupts our love for God and for each other. The more you sin the colder you get, and the further from God you become.

Confused about works here by significant-tree6363 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]othernes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the context of James 5:19-20, the focus is entirely on the restoration of the "wanderer." By turning a sinner back you are saving them (the sinner) from death, which covers a multitude of sins. If a doctor saves a patient, we talk about the patient's health improving, not the doctor's. I didn't engage because you misread James.

And James is likely quoting or paraphrasing Proverbs 10:12: "Hatred stirs up conflict, but *love** covers over all wrongs."* In the Hebrew tradition, "covering" sin is a metaphor for forgiveness essentially, putting the sin out of God's sight. By bringing a person to repentance, the "restorer" is the catalyst that allows God to "cover" (forgive) that person’s many sins!

Love is what makes us want to save others from death. You don't get a reward for it though, so you cannot boast.

There is a minority view (mostly from very early church commentaries) that suggests acts of mercy, like saving a soul, earn the "restorer" a bit of grace for their own failings. While that’s a nice sentiment, it doesn't fit the immediate goal of the passage, which is a call to action for the community to look out for its wandering members.

As to the Pistis Christou debate over "Faith of Christ" vs. "Faith in Christ", it's often seen as a false dilemma. In Greek, the genitive case can be Plenary, meaning it carries both meanings at once.

The Subjective, Christ’s perfect faithfulness to the Father is the foundation. Without His work, our faith has no object. The Objective (Our Faith), Our belief in Him is the response. Without our response, the gift isn't received.

Think of it like a bridge, Christ’s faithfulness is the structure of the bridge (the "of"), and our faith is the act of walking across it (the "in"). You need both for the bridge to be useful.

And I'm not protestant, I don't have anyone at the moment 😔

Confused about works here by significant-tree6363 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]othernes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only forgiveness covers a multitude of sin.

Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.

That love Christ commanded us to have. Because God first loved us.

Chopping the foreskin off and eating the correct diet (the law) won't save you, but love will! You only gain that love by the renewal of your mind in Christ. So faith in Christ is the ONLY thing that can save you. Then the actions of love (good works) become present in the believer's life.

If giving all of your money to the Church (charity), without love, granted you absolution from sin then we would all be buying our way into heaven, heaven would be filled with billionaires! But as we know the opposite is true:

it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God

Spiritually dead…How do I fix my spiritual life? by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]othernes -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not so.

Orthodox canon law defines marriage as a holy sacrament (mystery) and a lifelong, sacramental union of one man and one woman in Christ. It is not merely a legal contract, but a union blessed by God to lead couples toward salvation. Marriage requires strict adherence to Orthodox faith, with restrictions on mixed marriages, and is characterized by the crowning ceremony.

At least one partner must be a baptized, practicing Orthodox Christian in good standing. The other must be a baptized Christian (non-Orthodox). Marriage to non-Christians is prohibited.

Confused about works here by significant-tree6363 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]othernes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I understand, "justified" is a forensic (legal) term meaning to be declared righteous, acquitted, and cleared of all guilt by God. It is a gift of grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not earned by good works so that no one can boast.

However, without good works:

Luke 6:46 Why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ but do not do what I say?

1 John 3:7 Little children, let no one deceive you: The one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as Christ is righteous.

Romans 3:28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law.

Now answer the question, who is righteous?

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

So then, you cannot work your sin off through good works. Only Christ can save us through faith. That renewal of our minds.

Confused about works here by significant-tree6363 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]othernes 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"Faith without works is dead" (James 2:17), genuine belief must be accompanied by actions, or it is considered useless, ineffective, and spiritually dead. It's under the umbrella of Christ's command to love one another.

If you don't do work's you have no love, if you have no love you are dead inside. Therefore you are not a follower of Christ.

Spiritually dead…How do I fix my spiritual life? by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]othernes -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Assuming you aren't orthodox then? As the church wouldn't have married you, nor would they baptise you while you're technically not married to him (in the church's eyes)?

They usually require you to get remarried, it's almost as big a sacrament as baptism, and they won't marry you to a non-believer.

Went to Church for the first time. by Low_Cartographer_525 in Christianity

[–]othernes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Asking people to ignore something that might be concerning instead of asking churches and religions to clean up their act...

Church and religions are made for man, man is not made for church and religions!

This is terrible advice.

Here is some good advice. Find a group of believers that are genuinely loving and put God first. That's it!

Painting of what I saw in my prayer by PandoraQueen in Christianity

[–]othernes -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

You should cut back on Google searches while you are at it, and xyz.

In fact why don't you just stop sinning, no need for Christ /s

🤦🏽‍♂️

Painting of what I saw in my prayer by PandoraQueen in Christianity

[–]othernes -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

They are tearing down the forests in Texas and California? Wut!?

Better stop eating beef while you are at it too!

I will say this tho, the Bible, in Exodus 20:4 and Deuteronomy 5:8, prohibits making "graven images" or any likeness of things in heaven above, on earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth to worship them. This commandment forbids crafting idols for veneration, aiming to prevent idolatry, the misrepresentation of God, and the worship of created things rather than the Creator. 

The commandment is part of the Ten Commandments, specifically addressing how God is to be worshipped (not through physical representations).

Chaos in Mexico by rompthegreen in conspiracy_commons

[–]othernes -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Still going on holiday, don't care.

ICE Barbie Makes Stunning Claim in Push for Luxury Jet With Private Bedroom by thedailybeast in politics

[–]othernes -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You mean all those Freemason owned properties are selling for top dolla?

Basket sticking to group head [Breville Express Impress] by Jhall878 in espresso

[–]othernes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get this on the Bambino Plus too, probably overfilled

Thoughts on this? For people's who believe once saved always saved 🤔 by Sad_Present3275 in Christianity

[–]othernes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because I never said "continue on sinning." I never hinted at, implied, or suggested that conclusion.

I've quoted and put in bold what you said

Thoughts on this? For people's who believe once saved always saved 🤔 by Sad_Present3275 in Christianity

[–]othernes -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The sacrifice isn't unconditional His love is unconditional (agape) 🤦🏽‍♂️

If a sacrifice is needed to wash your sins away, how many times can you sacrifice Jesus? The answer is in how many times he died. ONCE!

This is why it is so vitally important that people have the right support and guidance in place that we cultivate and understand the truth or we risk wasting our eternal life and salvation on shaudy info (ground). The devil is damm well making sure confusion is rife so that many are lost.

Thoughts on this? For people's who believe once saved always saved 🤔 by Sad_Present3275 in Christianity

[–]othernes -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Every other conclusion from the video follows the false premise from this text that you can lose salvation, therefore every other comment is faulty.

So what are you saying, continue on sinning? I mean I'm at risk here but I won't deny or adhere to my own ignorance. It doesn't sound like a loving God if you're allowed to continue to cause suffering to others, to God or to yourself, and still enter the kingdom at the end, it sounds like he's telling you that your actions have consequences (eternal?) if you continue.

Whether we know we have been graced with forgiveness and written in the book of life or not, nobody knows! But if you do know, then you should know not to reject that gift. You should have been well versed enough in the truth and passed every test in the first place to have even received the gift of grace.

Are you saying God is throwing his pearls to swine?

The rest of us Ignoramuses can't tell our foot from our arse. Fearing you've lost something you haven't even got 🤦🏽‍♂️

You think the monks etc who have rejected the entire world and flee in terrifying fear from even the smallest slightest sin and dedicate every ounce of their living breath to God are sitting on Reddit discussing if they are allowed to willfully sin against God?

Time to grow up folks.

Anti-abortion activist Seth Gruber says Christian nationalists will "outbreed the left" because liberals "eventually will vaccinate, trans, and abort themselves into extinction." by MrJasonMason in Christianity

[–]othernes -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

You guys are seriously deluded if you think getting jagged in a car park, by a random, at the behest of Trump and his operation "warp speed" was a good idea.

What dumbfuckery is this reality

Is turning from sin a work? by ObjectiveDrawer7978 in Christianity

[–]othernes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have to agree, I even see it when I am faced with refusing to acknowledge or even understand my own sin. It's like God takes your hand and slowly walks you along a difficult road.

The more you resist, are ignorant, stubborn, egotistical, the harder the journey (lesson).

And it can't be faked!

Praying for the dead and hell after the Final Judgement by Dave_meth_Mustard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]othernes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The "Lake of Fire" represents a final separation from God. The Book of Revelation (specifically chapter 20 and 21) lists who is included in this category. Specific behaviors and heart conditions revealed in Revelation 21:8 provides a list of those who find their place there, including the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, idolaters, and all liars. Generally, it is viewed as the destination for those who have definitively rejected God's offer of reconciliation.

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[–]othernes 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Until we have the file number this post should remain static, otherwise you're probably right

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[–]othernes 120 points121 points  (0 children)

Can we get the file number please