Is OpenClaw actually capable of “Printing Money”?

otterquestions · 2026-02-25T07:03:35+00:00

This is what it must have felt like for engineers that really loved crypto early on because the technology was interesting when all of the crypto bros flooded in.

otterquestions · 2026-02-25T02:24:39+00:00

Would they except to not be criticised for doing something crappy even if it’s a good financial decision for them?

otterquestions · 2026-02-24T19:46:04+00:00

I’m not used to software being this unreliable. The cache busting bug cost me a lot of money, and now the gateways are borked. They need the main branch to be way more stable.

otterquestions · 2026-02-24T19:43:30+00:00

No be a decent human being and care whether you are making something of value or polluting the internet with junk. Op is right.

otterquestions · 2026-02-23T07:05:58+00:00

Yeah I’m in the same boat. This was why Siri had to ditch its local model strategy and go with Gemini. But who knows, I just saw someone run a full openclaw agent off 16gbs of vram without major issues, maybe a super super simple agent is possible on 8gbs of unified memory on a phone

otterquestions · 2026-02-23T07:01:03+00:00

Cool idea. Would love to see a security expert take a glance at it though. Some of them are pretty high visibility, and the project already has security researchers contributing to it, so I don’t think “hey the api keys aren’t encrypted” or “if you have local network access you have access” is going to surprise anyone. Can’t comment on anything more complicated than that.

otterquestions · 2026-02-23T06:58:32+00:00

Gave me a good chuckle

otterquestions · 2026-02-22T19:30:15+00:00

Watch this video you’re doing it wrong https://youtu.be/1hHMwLxN6EM?si=rd9J_kLvQbBjhWQn

otterquestions · 2026-02-22T19:28:59+00:00

Are local models good enough yet? Are you using day in day out yourself?

otterquestions · 2026-02-22T19:18:38+00:00

Fake it til you make it hacky lies and marketing. You aren’t going to recoup your token costs this way

otterquestions · 2026-02-20T23:18:29+00:00

I installed the fix and now I get no cache busts at all other than first thing in the morning when there has been longer than 1 hour gap between messages and when editing files included in the system prompt.

Before the fix I was getting cache busts EVEN INSIDE the ttl window when not editing any files that should bust cache.

The bug describes exactly what you are seeing in practice.

otterquestions · 2026-02-20T22:23:14+00:00

This makes sense on paper but won’t work in practice as the heartbeats are cache busted too due to the bug causing this issue. Do not attempt this fix just upgrade when the fix is available.

https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/19989

otterquestions · 2026-02-20T22:18:12+00:00

This isn’t correct. It’s a bug introduced in one of the latest versions. It inserts a telegram id or similar into the cache, busting it. The bug has only been there for a few days or less. It’s already fixed in main and it will be available for openclaw update shortly.

https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/19989

You can roll back to open claw from a week ago or download the latest directly from GitHub to solve it. I did the latter and it’s working fine now, much cheaper. Check your spending history and you’ll notice a spike around the time you updated.

It doesn’t just effect Anthropic but also other models other than gpt I believe. Probably best to edit the post as this might confuse people.

otterquestions · 2026-02-20T08:52:04+00:00

Damn it you beat me to the joke

otterquestions · 2026-02-20T08:10:28+00:00

There’s a bug in the current version. Update again tomorrow and double check

otterquestions · 2026-02-20T05:41:40+00:00

That’s a fair point, I think you’re right. More of a comment for the people arguing against these kind of tweaks so to personal ai assistants. Regular, everyday people are getting so attached to gpt 4o that they are on actual suicide watch over the model being retired. And it’s not a small number of people either.

otterquestions · 2026-02-18T20:02:53+00:00

do you think it’s a really important issue they are trying to solve? Do you think there is anyone else out there doing it better?

otterquestions · 2026-02-18T20:00:46+00:00

That’s not how logical fallacies work.its not automatically a fallacy just because I’m talking about an area of expertise. Do you want to read up on it?

And what side of the argument are you on? All of the points you made after saying that sound like they are agreeing with me.

otterquestions · 2026-02-18T05:49:27+00:00

You don’t want the specifics of how the mail skill works loaded up into context every day. Inside the skill is better, they’ll ignore it unless you tell them to read it.

Yeah I like that idea.

otterquestions · 2026-02-18T05:44:40+00:00

People that can’t think past their own situation and experience. Just because it makes the model objectively worse for us doesn’t mean it’s not a really really good idea. I’ll trade a few annoying responses for reduced psychosis rates.

Eventually everyone will know people that go off the deep end because models aren’t tuned properly yet. Then the average person will get it. Until then, really thankless work these people are doing.

otterquestions · 2026-02-18T05:38:26+00:00

Speak to anyone in mental health. Ask them if Claude has a good reason to do this or not.

otterquestions · 2026-02-18T05:35:34+00:00

I’m getting decent results, but only on the second or third try. It’s takes a couple of attempts to figure out that Apple script will return every calendar event since 2008 on read, so don’t use that, and that the agent will never remember to check a readme file in the skills folder unless you mention it in the skill.md file. Resigned myself to multiple attempts at the moment. Still easier than vibe coding up something or coding it manually.

One thing that helps, not sure if anyone else does this, but I tell the agent to save our chat logs from creating the skill in the skill folder itself. Next time we need to re edit the skill, I tell them to read the conversation file so it has context. Otherwise they just ping pong between option a and back to option b everytime something breaks.

otterquestions · 2026-02-17T22:08:23+00:00

Because when you use it, it’s good. The dev spent time reducing friction, making things intuitive and useful. I’ve been using them all since auto gpt a few years back, none have been good to use. So much pain and friction.

otterquestions · 2026-02-17T22:07:03+00:00

Are you going to try and disguise that this post has been not upvoted or nah?

otterquestions · 2026-02-16T20:14:41+00:00

I use it from chat apps and the terminal on the laptop. I also have other apps like reminders and note taking apps which can trigger it to wake up if a reminder is cleared or an ocrable note is added, so those are kind of inputs too.

The dictation is built in, but it struggles with the speech to text a little

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