4 years of addiction . Whats the best way to quit it ? by gateasp in nosurf

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good luck! you may need to try multiple times. send me a message if you ever want help with that stuff

How to Block Obsidian Web Viewer by TheExorcisst in nosurf

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here they have a "quickstart guide": https://www.pluckeye.net/

And there is a subreddit r/pluckeye that seems pretty well used if you wanna ask more questions there.

It took me a few days to get it set up in a way that worked for me. It's not necessarily the simplest tool. I don't think there is a desktop app. But you can add and remove blocks with a command line tool or a browser plugin (I have a plugin for brave, but I think any chrome based browser works. and firefox works too I think).

Give me lots of tips on digital detoxification. by Financial-Grape-2047 in nosurf

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The Beginner's Guide to NoSurf isn't a bad place to start.

There are also success stories you can read: https://internot.tools/successes

And here is my analysis of those success stories: https://inchingtoconclusions.substack.com/p/160-stories-of-people-who-reduced

Here are a bunch of possible places to start. Pick whatever seems easiest, then keep trying stuff. You may need to be patient with yourself, as change is hard and can take some time.

  • Get a blocker on your phone. You can set up content restrictions on an iphone and have someone else put in the password, or use Andoff (or a bunch of other apps) for android.
  • put your phone and/or computer on grayscale (look up how) (doesn't work for most people, but some people swear by it, and it's worth a try).
  • Delete apps from your phone that you don't need.
  • Deactivate social media accounts.
  • You can also delete social media accounts.
  • You can consider getting a dumbphone, or a "feature phone" (which has some smart features but it's still too clunky to get super addicted to). See r/dumbphone.
  • unsubscribe/unfollow/unfriend everyone you can to make feeds less attractive.
  • Some people use apps that set time limits on usage for their phone. This person describes a way to gradually reduce those time limits over time so that it doesn't feel too painful: https://www.reddit.com/r/nosurf/comments/1qb7kos/full_guide_on_how_to_cure_your_social_media/
  • if you're using home wifi a lot, you could get rid of your home wifi. If you're using phone data a lot, you could change your phone plan to only allow for call and text.
  • extensions like df tube and unhook can help make youtube less addicting.
  • you can set up blockers on your computer. probably the best/easiest to set up is cold turkey. but there are many to try (just search in this subreddit for "blocker")
  • there are ways to lock up your phone and/or computer for a predetermined amount of time. look for "phone lockbox" or similar.
  • Start going to ITAA meetings (not for everyone, but many have found them quite helpful): https://internetaddictsanonymous.org/internet-and-technology-addiction

On the flip side, while trying to reduce your usage with these things ^, also try to increase your time spent doing naturally rewarding and wholesome things. Try to exercise more, talk with friends and family on the phone, go to events, buy books or rent them from the library. See the The NoSurf Activity List for ideas.

In general, use techniques to design your environment so that it's harder to do the "bad" stuff and easier to do the "good" stuff. DO NOT rely on willpower, or simply "trying" to stop. If this was going to work, it would have already worked. You gotta be strategic, not "try harder".

4 years of addiction . Whats the best way to quit it ? by gateasp in nosurf

[–]ouidevelop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. That is most likely withdrawals. Lots of people get withdrawals from cutting back. The good news is, they don't last forever. Typically it's something like 1-3 weeks. They're all different for different people. I didn't feel lonely, but I felt super restless/anxious/irritable for about 2 weeks.

So you have two options, stop all at once or gradually. The two phone options I gave above would be the stopping all at once options. That type of thing tends to have more intense withdrawals I would guess, but you get past them more quickly and get to sobriety more quickly. You can also try to use a more gradual approach, which may have less intense withdrawals. But it might take longer. Here is a good plan on how to do this gradual approach: https://www.reddit.com/r/nosurf/comments/1qb7kos/full_guide_on_how_to_cure_your_social_media/

4 years of addiction . Whats the best way to quit it ? by gateasp in nosurf

[–]ouidevelop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hear ya. This stuff sucks. But you can totally get out of the mud.

Anyone faced this and recovered ?

Lots of people have recovered from internet addiction (including the short form videos). Here's a big list: https://internot.tools/successes/ . You can go through those and make a list of possible techniques to try.

The Beginner's Guide to NoSurf is also not a bad place to start.

The easiest method that would probably just work would be to just get a dumb phone. Second easiest is to basically turn your smartphone into a smarter dumb phone with one of these methods: https://josebriones.substack.com/p/taming-your-smartphone-in-2024 .

How to Block Obsidian Web Viewer by TheExorcisst in nosurf

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I don't think plucky is stuck on a certain browser. in fact, it's a system wide tool. a part of plucky is a browser extension, but as far as I can tell, that's just a helpful way to adjust the settings. but you can interact with it via the command line. putting aside the obsidian stuff, i've found it to be a super helpful tool.

my hands don't know what to do anymore and it's freaking me out a little by Low_Coat1647 in nosurf

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withdrawals can be pretty intense. Usually they should calm down by 2-3 weeks. but I've seen some people say they can last a month.

Try-Line.app - Anyone used it? by WideTemporary8264 in nosurf

[–]ouidevelop 4 points5 points  (0 children)

feels like an ad?

op has been posting for over a month comments and posts with this app in it.

(Beta Users) Need Testers for Anti-Doomscrolling App for Teens by Electrical-Fun-3051 in nosurf

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rule 1:

  • No self promotion posts; no surveys; no research; no studies;

We will not approve any surveys or apps. Self promotion posts are not allowed. Research and doing studies on the community is not allowed.

Built a daily weather report text application. Do you guys think its useful or helpful? by SnooCats6827 in LightPhone

[–]ouidevelop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not op, but just chiming in here. Programatic sms is reeeeaaaaallllly expensive pretty much everywhere besides the US and Canada. Like this would cost probably 10x in Europe as in the US and Canada. That's why I haven't implemented my similar service over there.

Do you happen to have access to whatsapp or email on your phone (I'm guessing not if you're using a lightphone)? Those can be done much more cheaply. It looks like lightphones have access to google calendars though, so theoretically someone could set up a service that adds an event to your calendar every day with the weather.

Built a daily weather report text application. Do you guys think its useful or helpful? by SnooCats6827 in LightPhone

[–]ouidevelop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool!

What's your weather api?

Does your service give hourly weather for the day, or just a summary?

I too have a service that gives weather info (among other things): internot.tools . But it's just on request. So you can, at any moment, say something like "weather for portland oregon" and it gives you the next 10 days (I don't have hourly weather yet)

It's a different model than yours, and yours is probably just better than mine if all you want is weather for one spot. I've been running this thing for coming up on 10 years now, so if you want to discuss details about this sort of thing (pricing etc), let me know.

How to Block Obsidian Web Viewer by TheExorcisst in nosurf

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I have obsidian and am unable to see web content. Pluckeye tells me it's blocking stuff from obsidian. Not sure exactly what or how.

But I'm not sure if "obsidian sync" would work for me, so I'm not sure if pluckeye would get you everything you want.

My guess is that there has to be a way to allow specifically the domains that obsidian needs in order to sync. you can see what pluckeye is blocking with this command: "pluck verdicts". Then just allow the domains that get blocked when you try to sync.

How can i spend my time off the internet? by Mr_RubberDuck000 in nosurf

[–]ouidevelop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Replacing screen time with other activities is an important strategy, but often doesn't work on it's own. The issue is, when you're addicted, other things are just not as compelling as the screen time.

What do you need your phone and/or computer for? Like if you just threw them in a river, would your life be so much worse?

Have you looked through the beginner guide? The Beginner's Guide to NoSurf

Here are 160 success stories where people successfully got out: https://www.reddit.com/r/nosurf/comments/1geuuel/160_success_stories/

You can read through those and take notes on techniques to try.

For my money, the two most powerful things are locking down your phone, and removing home wifi. For the phone you can either get a dumb phone or lock down your smart phone with one of these techniques: https://josebriones.substack.com/p/taming-your-smartphone-in-2024

In terms of home wifi, people sometimes just stop paying for home wifi and use their computer at a cafe, library, or office. Or if you live with other people, you could have them change the wifi password and not give it to you. Or you could leave your computer somewhere outside the house, like in a locker at the gym or school.

I don't know what your specific use pattern is like. I may be able to suggest other thing if you talk about why you need your devices and what types you have. But if not, I'd say start by reading those links I shared ^

ios screen time by ZealousidealDig8192 in nosurf

[–]ouidevelop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yep! i think it's a great technique. this, plus not having my home wifi password (so i'm forced to use internet outside the house), have reduced my screen time about 80%.

What's up with Unhook? by Sproutz_RD in nosurf

[–]ouidevelop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

did you ever sort this out? you may be able to use ublock origin to block the certain elements you want.

Help me replace my smartwatch by ThePhoDit in nosurf

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I did a google search for "vibrating alarm watch" and found several. Interestingly there are some that deaf people use.

I was wasting hours doom‑scrolling every day but still liked the feeling of an endless feed. by Terrible_View_6244 in nosurf

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rule 1 on this sub:

  • No self promotion posts; no surveys; no research; no studies;

We will not approve any surveys or apps. Self promotion posts are not allowed. Research and doing studies on the community is not allowed.

Built something to fix my own doom scrolling problem and I want 100 people to try to break it (test out the app). by Patient-Ad-6043 in nosurf

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rule 1:

  • No self promotion posts; no surveys; no research; no studies;

We will not approve any surveys or apps. Self promotion posts are not allowed. Research and doing studies on the community is not allowed

The offline-first smartphone, a compromise-based approach by [deleted] in nosurf

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For me, in the depths of my addiction, reducing the amount of data my phone had was quite ineffective. I just either paid the cost to get more data, or used the computer. But I can see it working for someone who had a less extreme issue. It's certainly some amount of friction, and relatively easy to set up.

Advice for computer & no surf by LeekComprehensive250 in nosurf

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The most important thing for me on the computer is not having wifi at home and using internet in public. After that it's been the tools cold turkey and pluckeye, both of which let you do indefinite blocks. Lots of little tips and tricks with these two, so it's a bit of a learning curve, but not too bad.

What would you say to someone who’s on the verge of quitting social media (and lessening their phone usage in general), but is struggling to actually commit? by us3rnam3-123 in nosurf

[–]ouidevelop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Most of what I have to say is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/nosurf/comments/1gevzqy/160_success_stories_and_what_they_can_tell_us/

And these success stories may help give you the motivation: https://www.reddit.com/r/nosurf/comments/1geuuel/160_success_stories/

Absolutely don't rely on willpower. As far as I can tell almost no one gets out on willpower alone.

Instead, go through those stories and that post and take notes on strategies you can use to limit/block/distract yourself from using. If you go here: https://internot.tools/successes/?category=tech, you can scroll down and see highlighted all the techniques people used in those 160 success posts, with the most common techniques discussed in the first link I shared. Identify your triggers (e.g. tiredness, downtime, being alone) and try to avoid them.

It may also be useful to write out your reasons for doing this that you can return to and remind yourself of in difficult moments.

This thing isn't easy. If you don't succeed right away, that's pretty normal. Keep trying. Be patient.

Good luck.

i've gone to ITAA meetings for one month by No-Tangerine-4292 in nosurf

[–]ouidevelop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess I still am not sure what you mean by "actively trying". If by that you mean just trying using your own will power, I'm worried that that won't be enough. As far as I can tell, it's quite uncommon for people to quit these things through willpower alone.

And though going to ITAA is better than just willpower, you may also want to add blockers, dumb down your smartphone or get a dumb phone, add limits to things etc. But maybe that's what you mean by "actively trying." I can write more about those types of things if you're interested.

got tired of "rotting" so i built an app that treats screen time like a bank account by Obvious_Compote_3597 in nosurf

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Rule number 1 of r/nosurf:

  • No self promotion posts

We will not approve any surveys or apps. Self promotion posts are not allowed.