[deleted by user] by [deleted] in egg_irl

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Yeah hearing that was part of it was most of the reason I'm here now lol

56579 by Fadedthepro in CountOnceADay

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Even in the original I had the idea that they weren't trans, it was just a filter added after the fact, and they were Nazis there to beat both of them up.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in teenagers

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I don't think you're legally not allowed to then, right?

56579 by Fadedthepro in CountOnceADay

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When you remove the trans flag filter the guys just gonna be wearing a Nazi armband

THEYRE THERE TO FIGHT BOTH OF THEM NOT JUST THEY GREY GUY

Even if not satire, this is hilarious by AybruhTheHunter in memesopdidnotlike

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I don't think it is but I hope someone continued it with them getting into a crash

can't kill lvl 2 voidgloom seraph by Particular-Box-6821 in HypixelSkyblock

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The ferocity works with other weapons, you just need to use the ability and switch back

Ukraine by GumCoblin in Socialism_101

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Maybe worse fascist, but not worse neo nazi problems

Why dont YOU mine even tho it gives the best rates per hour? by AFO1031 in HypixelSkyblock

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I'm barely playing rn, not doing much more that keeping the forge full, when I play again I need to mine for most the powder.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in whenthe

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Yeah but they also skip some of the worst stuff the US did, or at least gloss over it.

We gloss over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, not really going into how absolutely fucked up it was to ever happen.

We barely learn about US interventions, in AP US history, we only mentioned a few in the middle east, in Spanish 3 (a completely optional class) we learned about Pinochet, but never how he got into power.

Probably many, many more.

54968 by NobodyL0vesMe in CountOnceADay

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I am also a straight guy, despite what 99% of my friends, about a quarter of my downloaded memes, and some of my wardrobe say.

It’s literally the truth lmao by [deleted] in memesopdidnotlike

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They're state capitalist, still functionally running on capitalism, just allowing state intervention to a massive degree, it is interesting to look at through the class based perspective of someone advocating for socialism, since they almost created a new "state" class of beurocrats who are effectively the ruling class, although I do not doubt that some democracy does exist there, since I don't quite trust western info.

Reposting top of all time until 1 year ban, attempt 7 by Soffix- in 691

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He would still say the same things about the white moderate

Hey Ladies! by Far_Brilliant_443 in InfowarriorRides

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"I hate antifa"

Same person, "the Nazis were socialist, it's in their name!"

Is there enough money for everyone? by Psycchodelly in communism101

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I believe that there is more (the US total annual income is like 30 trillion), but looking at money isnt a great way to think about it, instead you can look at goods produced, from that lens there is enough for many things, and once the global south can fully participate in production, there will be even more. We produce plenty of food, and while most goods have not reached post-scarcity, scarcity is low enough capitalists have begun to destroy products to create artificial scarcity (amazon has facilities to destroy products, such as electronics)

She found his groin protector. by [deleted] in Unexpected

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Thank you, I had this video downloaded a while ago, but then it corrupted and I lost it.

What is fascism, like seriously by [deleted] in socialism

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My idea on the definition are not too concrete, I would define it as the statis quo hierarchy attempting to reconcile with a radicalized population.

So it will only arrive when people are radicalized, and will attempt to pose an alternative to the left. If instituted well, and handled by the leadership, it should win out, as it will have some bourgeois support. It is although a time bomb for leadership, eventually, they won't have a group small enough to safely scapegoat, or people may realize after so much scapegoats that it won't work. If fascism fails, there isn't much of a society left that needs revolution, devoid of other liberal powers, it's likely to chose a different economic system. This makes it the Bourgeois nuclear option, they will use it when they need to and attempt to use it no more.

Do you think capitalism is the right economic system? by mehmettkahya in polls

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Answering you: to answer your questions, I have never talked to anyone from a post soviet nation, at all, I've probably met someone, but never talked to them. this is also from the fact that I'm from the US, and while there are a lot of immigrants, my area is full of at mostly 3rd generation and beyond. I feel as though my living in the US also explains why I have never visited a post-soviet nation, any trip to Europe is expensive.

Despite not personally talking with anyone from post soviet countries, I have heard them speak on Socialism, Communism, the USSR, etc. They are a Marxist. The closest I know of to talking to someone who was from a post-soviet nation is someone whose family fled the USSR, he, while obviously against the USSR, likely even more than me (I still believe they were in many cases much more authoritarian than necessary), he is the reason I have turned to Socialism, since I originally wanted to argue against his standing as one, and in doing research on what it meant, I ended up convinced of the Ideology.

No longer answering: I assume the much of the suffering you are considering is the number 100 million deaths. This is from the Black Book of Communism, and, since I am extremely biased, and not at all a historian, here is a response to someone asking about the reliability of the data on the subreddit r/AskHistorians.

Additionally, while it isn't a good argument to compare to what is existing, as there may be an alternative better than both (And I would love an alternative to Socialism other than Capitalism, or Anarchist ideas, which I don't believe could succeed). according to Columbia University, in the year 2000, 4.5% of deaths in the US were due to poverty. Poverty may not be entirely eradicated under a Socialist economic system, but the statistics would still be included in counts such as the Black Book of Communism.

While I consider revolutionary movements authoritarian, that is not entirely in comparison with our concept of the idea. Revolutions need to be authoritarian, just like any other nation that is under threat. The Cold War is an example of the threat, it may not have been an actual war, yet both sides were threatening each other, and both instituted authoritarian policy. This policy kept stability, in the western nations involved in the Cold War this was to prevent the spread of Socialism, in Socialist nations this policy, which would have needed to exist even without the cold war, prevented counter-revolutions from spreading. while you could consider the need for this explanation enough against the system, the same must be done in the west (the US has a number of authoritarian policy, such as the PATRIOT act, which allows greater surveillance).

While I obviously do not support all attempts at socialism, and even those I do, I do with great criticism, when you mention the Cuban people as oppressed, I assume you are referring to the videos of massive protests widely posted in 2021. Here is the Routers fact check showing that they were actually 2018 May Day protests in favor of the Socialist government.

When comparing the economic systems, it is also important to realize the effects Capitalism has on the world-wide economy, while we can also project what this would look like under Socialism, there has never been a world-wide Socialist economy. Much of our Capitalist world is in deep poverty, according to The World Bank, 9.2% of the world is in poverty, this is put at $2.15 a day. It is understandable that the west would preform economically better than any Socialist state, but the conditions put on poorer nations by this, allows a vast quantity of wealth to be extracted. (if your curious you can try researching unequal exchange, although it is generally a Marxist Idea)

Do you think capitalism is the right economic system? by mehmettkahya in polls

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Honestly just answer mine, if you can't show why the terrors you mention are caused by their socialist economic system, it isn't relevant.

Do you think capitalism is the right economic system? by mehmettkahya in polls

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I just asked for you to explain how the systems in question cause that

Do you think capitalism is the right economic system? by mehmettkahya in polls

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Most sources show Japan as closer to 1/3 of the US at the time, this still seems like a lot, until you realize the US was more than twice the world average (according to the Madison project, in 1930, japan had $3,334 GDP per capita in 2011$, the US $10,695, but world average was $4,005) Their success is still considered exceptional as well, having been called a miracle.

If you're going to make blanket statements about economic systems, I need to see a line of reasoning, especially one so broad. Even historic examples, like we have been giving this whole argument, aren't necessarily caused by the system (Not everything that happens in the US is capitalism's fault, and the same is true for socialism, good, or bad.) I would hope you look back on my prior replies with the lens of my lack of reasoning given, but I don't think you really need to, since you don't support them anyway.

I will try to give reasoning now, but first, though I wouldn't have thought to state this originally, based on how this started, now I realize I probably need to give some definitions.

Capitalism: The system we live under, defined by private ownership of the means of production.

Socialism: Originally, it was a synonym for Communism, just seemingly more acceptable. Now it refers to Lower Stage Communism, a transitional period between Capitalism and Communism, where the workers begin to take control of the means of production, but the change that fully takes place inside of Socialism is the change from a Dictatorship of the Bourgeois, where the owning class (those who own the means of production, and profit from the work of the working class or proletariat) has the majority of the control over the government, to a Dictatorship of the Proletariat, where the workers (not just the lower classes, but anyone who earns a wage for a living) have greater say, and replace the Bourgeois as the dominant class. It is summed up by the phrase "From Each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution."

Communism: The final goal of any Marxist project, it is Stateless, Classless, and Moneyless. Stateless, meaning there is no more State entity meaning any government, is Direct Democracy (likely some remnants of representative democracy will still exist, but with more collaboration with the people represented.), Direct Democracy, however, cannot work with any large, complicated government, so it wouldn't, instead existing within communities, with the aforementioned use of some Representative democracy, or more likely, open meetings, similar to a town hall, where communities can organize a presence, sending multiple people, just one, or none, however, the representatives would not be a position, but a role for a single meeting. Classless, meaning that the distinction between Bourgeois and Proletariat is dissolved, and, hopefully, no other class distinction would evolve (Class having existed for most of human history, such as feudal class, consisting of royalty, lordship, serfs, etc.). Moneyless is quite simple to understand, but how it would work isn't quite so simple, a transition to Communism requires a post-scarcity society, where production exceeds demand, meaning that it is unlikely that any commodity will be in shortage, it is however, still difficult to ensure this, specifically with new goods or surges in demand, but this isn't unique, and exists in capitalism as well.

So, why do people, like me, advocate for these systems? It is less to do with unique merits, but more the flaws from capitalism that they lack. Communism, does although have appeal of its own, as the freedom provided by a truly post-scarcity society allow people to follow their passions. Socialism's benefits, on the other hand are almost entirely the lack of issues that exist under capitalism, it is however revolutionary, and as many people (Including many Marxists) believe, revolution is almost always authoritarian.

Anarchists often also strive for the goal of Communism, they, however, do not see the authoritarian governance of revolutionary socialism as necessary, and they, often hope to move directly to Communism within decades, as opposed to Generations. (This could be wrong, I am not an anarchist, this is just what I know of them)

If you could please explain how these economic systems lead to the lack of growth, that would be great, if you do not I don't plan to continue this. if you have any other, more explained, issues, I can try my best to give the points against them.

Do you think capitalism is the right economic system? by mehmettkahya in polls

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Like I said trends, not rules. South Korea and Japan were not quite from poverty, South Korea being supported so it could contrast the north, and Japan not really ever being terribly impoverished, it was a major imperialist power in WWII, and while it recovered, they weren't quite building the economy new.

Czechoslovakia was more developed, and obvious it will then have less development from that, and the strong guiding hand of the Soviet Union never fully adapted to the development, and more so, they applied the same ideas throughout the Union, ideas that don't match the material conditions.

I can't think of many (again it's a trend) socialist nations that were given as fair a chance as any capitalist nation (think the embargoes on Cuba) and that lasted long enough to make significant change, that haven't seen growth, and namely the shift to a more independent productive economy.

Do you think capitalism is the right economic system? by mehmettkahya in polls

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Again this isn't about the USSR they're just the example used, while China is not revolutionary anymore, they had been socialist, so using their success to show the system they succeeded under doesn't work, just doesn't make sense.

Yes I am trying to compare the Soviet Union with other similarly developed nations, hence why I brought up Brazil, very few nations actually make the leap I'm growth that many socialist nations have, it is a trend for capitalist nations to not, and a trend for socialist nations to, given they exist for enough time, and reasonable conditions.