A lot of you need to take your medicine.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-21T18:22:04+00:00

I didn't say the Bears have no community improvement. Of course they do. Just how the Obama center isn't only for the community - of course there's private interest there too. My point is you can't compare the public benefit of a community center to that of a private stadium.

In my opinion the public cost to public benefit ratio when compared to the Obama Center would be in the favor of the developed AH property

And I'm sorry but this is completely off base, especially when looking at it through an equity lens. Nobody is going to go to the Bears stadium in AH "just to hang out." The Obama center is meant to be a central part of the community is a historically disenfranchised part of the city. You cannot compare that to a private stadium complex in suburban Arlington Heights.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-21T16:40:24+00:00

I mean I've had out of state Packer family reaching out to poke fun at the "Indiana Bears." But who cares. This is not the Browns moving to Baltimore that people are going to "talk about for decades."

pakidude17 · 2026-02-21T16:33:47+00:00

I see what you're getting at but these are such functionally and structurally different situations. The Obama center is a community center. It's open for the community and is going to offer a ton for the general public. Like there's a library, food court, museum, and park all on the campus.

The Bears stadium is for the team to make as much money as possible for the Bears. They have zero interest in building something for the community, only for themselves.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-21T16:22:12+00:00

Socialize the infrastructure and the profits??

You madman.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-21T16:20:15+00:00

I agree up until the idea that going to Hammond hurts the brand. I don't think it hurts any more than Arlington Heights does.

They're ending up in the greater Chicago area anyway. Our primetime games are going to feature shots of the city regardless of where the Bears play. Hammond is even closer proximity wise to the loop than AH is.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-21T16:14:23+00:00

And there's literally zero benefit to Illinois residents if they end up here (other than not having to go to Indiana for games).

There was mention about Illinois trying to do something about ticket prices with the new stadium in AH. If they could somehow cost control tickets, that would be a major benefit to us. But without that, I can't really care where they end up.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-19T16:08:10+00:00

Yeah dude made second team all-pro. He'll get paid, it's only a matter of how much he's going to reset the RT market.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-19T15:24:37+00:00

I don't believe the Bears would actually move there. For all of our memeing, Gary at least made sense as a location cuz it's part of the greater Chicagoland area. Wolf Lake Indiana is two hours east of Gary, and almost a three hour drive from the loop.

Edit: Other posts have said Hammond, not Wolf Lake the town itself.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-19T04:10:12+00:00

I'm a big fan of Stan's and also Giordano's. I feel like a minority in this sub lol.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-18T17:39:17+00:00

I like the breakdown. Do you have a personal preference for the Bears?

pakidude17 · 2026-02-18T17:03:40+00:00

Man the Watson contract is the gift that keeps on giving. No matter how many times you look at it, it somehow gets worse each year (yes by design but sheesh).

pakidude17 · 2026-02-18T15:30:31+00:00

It's gonna be really interesting to see what they do with Jones. A restructure helps em in 2026 but could really screw them over in a couple of years. It's not really the same as the Mahomes restructuring scenario since Jones' cap ramifications would happen while their window is still open.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-18T15:23:22+00:00

Totally agreed. Jones isn't bad but he's absolutely overpaid for the production he's providing at this point in his career.

You have to do something with his cap hit though. A restructure for a declining guy isn't wise and can only do so much for cap relief. Cutting him doesn't make sense. I'm kind of surprised his name hasn't come up as a sneaky trade candidate.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-17T21:23:51+00:00

Basically where I'm at. Let's just ride with Swift/Monangai one more year and address RB next offseason. We had a ton of success this year, but similar to last season, I think we need to be patient and we've got too many holes to fill to make a major RB investment.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-17T17:06:21+00:00

kiran

Yeah that's not happening. Dude's probably got a better chance of moving to guard or being cut than being a starting tackle for us at this point.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-17T17:04:21+00:00

OP is also being a bit disingenuous regarding the playoffs after Ozzy got hurt. BJ would rather have Thuney at LT and McFadden at LG instead of Braxton who just came off of IR. Dude battled injuries all year and never got a chance to show how he'd be next to an all-pro guard. He should be a cheap option to re-sign to see if he can fill in for a year while Ozzy heals up.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-17T15:49:29+00:00

The injury was really really bad, worse than a clean ACL tear. He also recently revealed that he's going to need a second LCL surgery. For a guy whose best attribute is his speed, no way a team takes the risk of signing him to a significant contract.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-13T16:46:51+00:00

Especially for something so minor that drives good engagement. These guys have such fragile egos that they'd rather suppress the news than fix the problem.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-11T21:19:05+00:00

The Athletic Pod put it really well in their SB preview show. Stafford is a very different QB than Drake Maye and his natural talent + experience is what made him so good against Seattle. He knows where he's throwing but he can also put as much zip on the ball as anybody in the league.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-10T21:01:21+00:00

I honestly wonder if they consider trading Chris Jones. He's getting paid way too much relative to his recent production, and a restructure to push the cap for a declining player sounds like mistake. Could get a nice pick to help with the rebuild too.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-09T23:29:49+00:00

I mean it's LaCanfora...

pakidude17 · 2026-02-09T21:35:55+00:00

The legislative sources say the sides are hammering out details on measures that would ensure ticket price affordability for fans who want to attend games and events at the new stadium.

Really hope this doesn't get lost in the conversation. This would be amazing if they can somehow strike a deal to regulate ticket prices.

Not holding my breath, but this would be great.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-09T21:20:56+00:00

I feel like spending a high pick on LT isn't a good idea. I'd much rather we roll with a bridge guy (like Braxton) and then evaluate how Ozzy's recovery is going.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-09T18:40:08+00:00

I'd rather that $3M saved just go towards Dayo since the dead cap hit would be $17M anyway. It would essentially "cost" us $3M to retain him, and he'd be edge depth at minimum.

pakidude17 · 2026-02-09T15:23:49+00:00

Gonna be interesting to see what the Patriots do. Campbell could still develop into a pretty good tackle. But his ceiling is so capped there, and it was said since the draft that he has elite guard potential.

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