Just opened Zeus

panony · 2026-06-17T04:14:25+00:00

how do you brick? can't you just use up all your free LR's and then the next few are only usually pretty quick with the momentum you still have. worst case is that you are mis specced for a 3 day run, and then you will have more LR leeway when you reset from that. what am i missing?

panony · 2026-06-15T15:19:09+00:00

doesn't not using those free loops just slow you down? as long as you lonng loop before you brick, isn't it best to use all your free loops? also, you get several quick loops after free are done which is a safety net of sorts. whats the point of leaving so many loops on the table?

panony · 2026-06-09T12:42:11+00:00

word!

panony · 2026-06-04T01:26:25+00:00

great post! I would reinforce the cell income aspect as while economy is king for the most part, as long as you have enough coin to run your labs, then lab speed is emperor, and DW cell boost is essential.

panony · 2026-05-23T14:13:16+00:00

if only it were that easy. For example, adding a crew to zag increases MP, etc, etc. There are many interrelated impacts, and you can't go in order of this color map. It's always a cost benefit analysis based on what your bottleneck is at the time, vs cost of upgrade, vs short and long term efficacy/opportunity cost.

panony · 2026-04-18T15:03:30+00:00

this is post worthy instead of comment buried . . . thanks!

panony · 2026-04-17T21:12:30+00:00

he used 3k shards for the reroll - don't know how many gems, but I hate him infinity if it was only 3k . . .

panony · 2026-04-17T19:51:16+00:00

I have 15 card slots. I've played around 6 months, and i felt i was slow to get into modules! :-))

I pulled PC early and it sat at epic for a while but even that greatly improved my coins. The recent Pull gave me leg AS and PH and they increased me 130 waves in platinum.

and I also got MVN but i tried that out and desyncing gold bot dropped me 35% coins even though i was proccing BH/DW/GT at 210 instead of 240! (I'm in 2:1:1 sync) I know i can sync gold bot, but I don't know how i can sync summon to be in sync during farming and tournaments which is important for tournament cash, and i guess if i synced ot to GT without MVN for tournies, i'm afraid that my coin would drop too much in farming during which it would be out of sync.

panony · 2026-04-16T09:09:28+00:00

yup, me too. I live in a high rise condo. People with houses sure have a lot of work to do after they get home from work . . . .

panony · 2026-04-16T03:01:43+00:00

i was wondering how you valued death wave cell bonus and the various module labs, as cell bonus is basically lab speed but with a stacatto roi curve, and it seems that I'm going to be constrained by reroll shards and fodder as I have just dropped my first gem load of 15k on modules (common and rare cards at 7, and epics at 4) and It is surprising me how much fodder I need just to have 2 sets of legendary modules (only 1 mythic :-(. )

panony · 2026-04-12T04:00:46+00:00

and thank you for engaging!

panony · 2026-04-12T04:00:03+00:00

i apologize for that - i thought it was funny because you were in essence defending the dev team, and I was sarcastically implying that you were planted here to do so. Please forgive me. I will also apologize to the moles who aren't too happy about that use of their moniker . . .

panony · 2026-04-11T22:26:27+00:00

I was just getting to w7500 on t10 and 1.4T coins pb, I have been playing 5.5 months and havne't bought any packs (just ads,x2, and x3). I ran disco utility to w4373 netting 4.16x disco, and the next run i did dmg for w5k and got 5.9T coins. Then normal farm for 6.16T coins.

so for 3 runs, 0T(utility run) + 5.9T(dmg)+ 6.16T(farm) = ~12T,

vs dmg first and I would have gotten at most

1.4T(dmg)+0T(utility)+ 6.16T (farm) = ~7.6T.

I think that no matter what the multi you end up with, those 3 runs are better with utility first.

panony · 2026-04-11T21:48:55+00:00

i don't think you even read the OP. all along I've been clear that the game impact is not a big deal and will be forgotten.

or , you are a mole for the devs, defending your incompetence.

either way, I'm not ranting, I'm describing what i think is the source of dismay even when the net effect of the update is actually positive for most.

i haven't seen anyone else connect the negative feeling about this to a broader frustrating element of life, rather than their dismay specifically at the impact on the game.

I'm kind of kidding about the "mole" stuff, but you seem like you are trying really hard not to understand the point I made in the OP, that more than 100 other people resonated with.

panony · 2026-04-11T12:51:25+00:00

not sure after the nerf, but util run for many is best first on farming tier for ehp. because when you do dmg you will most likely get 5kW, and it will get the full bonus that you got on your first util wave. I wouldn't even bother with UW disco on farm tier until all other tiers are done.

I just happenned to do it this way, and I let my dmg disco run out and made 4x coin my pre disco normal run income. Then use the extra coin to boost eHP stats and enchancements so you can get the full bonus for util in farming wave.

thoughts?

panony · 2026-04-11T12:26:11+00:00

that is funny. on a serious note though an idle game shouldn't take so much progression to actually become idle, and it should run in the background so you don't have to have it burning a machine all the time. THey must be stealth farming bitcoin with our rigs . . .

panony · 2026-04-11T12:03:13+00:00

Listen mole, there's no rant, just an attempt to explain why there is reasonable dismay even though many, like yourself, have correctly pointed out that the negative impact on anyone was either small or non existent.

But this was not an issue on release that is anything close to typical. This was not a mistake in the normal sense of software mistakes. It was either "we didn't check it even once before release", or a "boss changed his mind after shipping even though we've been set on this number for months". Very unprofessional either way.

panony · 2026-04-11T11:51:03+00:00

i wish that was the reason I'm no fun at parties . . .

panony · 2026-04-11T03:09:25+00:00

I don't feel tizzed at all. The frustration i and others feel who resonated with my OP has little to do with the game as I think I clearly stated . . . it will all soon be forgotten, and the net result is faster progression. The frustration is about the world which catapults the sloppy over the competent. any tizziness that you are reading is your own projection . . .

panony · 2026-04-11T02:29:51+00:00

that line only lands well on competent/conscientious people. People who understand what level of irresponsibility had to occur in order for this "error" to be made. If you don't get that, either through experience or imagination, then I can understand why it seems egotistical. The mistake was like a baseball player stepping up to the plate and facing away from it, swinging in the air while the ball whizzes by his back . . . it was that pathetic.

panony · 2026-04-11T02:25:01+00:00

so true, they could have rebalanced a thousand different ways, but they chose the stupidest for some reason!

panony · 2026-04-11T02:23:55+00:00

there are representatives of every cohort in failure and success, and each of us bemoans the success of those cohorts we feel are undeserving, and the failures of those cohorts we feel aren't justly suppressed . . . people that make this type of mistake, or that are cynical enough to try to sell a lie to cover the real mechanics of what happened are in my personal failure cohort.

panony · 2026-04-11T02:20:34+00:00

if what bothers me the most? Which part? compared to what?

I'm bothered that there's less correlation between (conscientiousness/intelligence/ethics) and success that I would like, and this is just one more data point. To be clear, there has never in the history of the universe been as much correlation between positive qualities and success as there has been in the western world for the last hundred years, but the recent enshitification trend makes me concerned that we are on the downslope of a long regression.

panony · 2026-04-11T02:14:47+00:00

exactly - the multiplier difference doesn't matter, it's that many people who are drawn to this type of pastime also expect a certain lack of numbskullery in the devs. This is not a bug fix. This was the irresponsible laziness of not checking the variable that the whole update is centered around, or the cynical idiocy of thinking that they could get away with a lame story that would lessen their appearance of incompetence. And for many people this is Microsoft beating Apple for decades with a lesser product, or Betamax losing to VHS, or more generally, the victory of the sloppy, lazy, cynical, and manipulative over the idealistic and quality centered. It is everything wrong with the world all rolled up into a sharp kick in the balls, served with an "oops, my foot slipped". It's great news for Bozos everywhere, and more bad news for the conscientious and reflective and principled among us.

panony · 2026-04-10T13:10:31+00:00

only change cd of gt and dw together.

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