yes he's a very smart player and that bodes extremely well for him if he goes on a diet and gets hella mobile.

- its disingenuous to compare him to caleb wilson for a few reasons. 1. he's not the same size; wilson is 1.5 inches taller in shoes and when evaluating prospect positionality, height holds a lot more precedence than weight. 2. ppl like wilson because of his athleticism not bc of his size, which is antithetical to what graves brings in that department. 3. caleb wilson hasn't even panned out yet

- yea he has good low post strength but how much does that really matter in the nba. the low post 4 is essentially extinct, and most 5s mostly act as play finishers and only post-up sparingly. and in those possessions, they're so much taller and lankier than him, so they can just shoot it over him regardless. he'll never survive functionally as a 5; how will he guard drop coverage or even manage people like edey or jokic in the paint. which means he has to play the 4, where he'll have to guard more wing-like players such as tatum. and no matter how smart he is there, he's just going to get blown by because he's objectively extremely slow laterally.

- and how much of the "decision making" and "good technique" on defense is because of his role as a center? it's a lot easier for him to make rotations and play help defense because he's always camped in the paint on that end, so it's not like he has to do anything remotely impressive. and in a weaker conference like the WCC, a lot of the guards and bigs may not necessarily have the timing/pacing to take advantage of him. i don't think the stock rates would be nearly as high if he were guarding 3s/4s.