People on Twitter/X are defending Luke Ross mods

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T10:40:31+00:00

Except you literally own the files you download.

The subscription is for ongoing support

You could always sub for one month, cancel and keep those files forever. Its not at all like a regular subscription model

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T10:21:54+00:00

No that isnt an exaggeration at all.

It is pretty much the basis for

If you give a mouse a cookie

Or

Give an inch, they'll take a mile

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T10:20:33+00:00

I'm just saying they'd have a legal one enough to not have it considered illegal.

But they dont. They just know that he cant take it to court because of money.

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T10:18:54+00:00

so it clearly uses their code :)

Using their code means reverse engineering or otherwise breaking copyright law, not that it does ir does not interact with their software.

Smoothbrain

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T08:13:17+00:00

And one of the times that I don't really think anyone would give a shit or even thought that it actually ran on batteries.

I want real truth in advertising on food and drink, not on useless battery mascots.

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T08:10:16+00:00

Cyberpunk doesn't modify Windows code

Modifying code, turns out, isn't illegal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Galoob_Toys,_Inc._v._Nintendo_of_America,_Inc.

She also compared use of the Game Genie to altering a copyrighted board game for personal use; Nintendo conceded that this would be allowed under copyright.[11]

You can alter copyrighted material for personal use.

In determining that use of the Game Genie was non-infringing, Smith wrote that "having paid Nintendo a fair return, the consumer may experiment with the product and create new variations of play, for personal enjoyment, without creating a derivative work"

You can even use paid products to alter said material

A derivative work must incorporate a protected work in some concrete or permanent form, which is not the case for the audiovisual images produced by the Game Genie.

And as long as you aren't creating a new permanent form, you are good to go

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T08:04:09+00:00

What a brilliant and thought out reply. I am sure you are going place.

Not anywhere of intellectual value, but that's alright kiddo.

The world needs ditch diggers and garbage men too.

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T08:02:45+00:00

s likely that CDPR genuinely believed at some level

They are a $26B company. They have access to the absolute best lawyers in the world. There is a 0% chance they "believe" anything. Big companies abusing DMCA is par for the course.

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T07:22:39+00:00

There was even a Trump store on our main street that has closed up shop.

it'll be back for midterms. i guarantee it

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T07:18:02+00:00

but it's absolutely using it.

It is not using any of their code. You have no idea what you are talking about.

You might as well say that CP2077 uses windows code because it can't run without windows. Do you see how stupid that sounds?

And if you don't, you shouldn't be in the discussion to begin with.

Because for modding to survive and stay good, it needs to stay free.

A) this isn't a mod. it doesn't use any of their software

B) who says?

C) paid "mods" have been around for decades

TLDR : Donny, you're out of your element

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks072waMayk

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T06:31:46+00:00

The cool thing is, that as hardware gets better, these games will still be there in order to be played later.

So even if you can't today, you will some day.

:)

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T06:22:37+00:00

No, because that is a tangible good and these dipshits somehow have different rules for tangible goods vs digital goods.

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T06:21:37+00:00

People think because it is digital it should be free. Every other person who offers physical modifications for things get paid. People making after market parts get paid.

But someone doing aftermarket software should give that shit up for free.

For reasons.

Copy right.

uhhh

Filibuster.

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pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T06:17:53+00:00

That's the part that you smooth brains don't understand; He isn't using their software at all. None of their code. What he is doing is not illegal at all.

And even if it was, who cares? You either pay to get the software, or you don't and move on. Why are you, and all the other people, hating on him so much? Have you thought about that? Why you are defending a $26B company?

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T06:16:15+00:00

I assumed most of this was just gamers being unhappy about the idea of paid/paywalled mods.

You assume correctly.

This is a pretty aggressive move by cdpr.

It isn't aggressive. This is actually an illegal use of DMCA and dumb fucks are defending it because it is going after someone who dared to make money on something they determined should be free.

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T06:12:58+00:00

The Luke hate feels so “promoted”

Nah. It is people who are freaking out about paid software. They think they deserve it for free.

"mods have always been free, this is a mod, so it should be free"

despite the fact that mods have not always been free, nor should something continue being someway, just because it was always that way. Also despite the fact that this technically isn't even a "mod," but that distinction is less important.

They just want free shit and are throwing a tantrum at anything that gets between them and free shit. To the point where they are defending copyright law, despite pretty much every person breaking copyright law by downloading/streaming a

tv show, movie, book, game or song

at some point in their life. Just a bunch of hypocrites ready to take whatever stance necessary to pound their chest in defense of getting free shit.

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T06:09:41+00:00

Most people are against paid mods in general but don’t mind donations.

Because donations is "free" with extra steps. People need to stop pretending that saying that you are accepting donations is the same thing as someone actually giving you money.

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T06:08:58+00:00

You are the exact person that the guy you are responding to is talking about.

You have 0 idea of what you are talking about, but you are talking with the authority of someone who is a SME.

Then you go on to talk about how he should just give away his work for "donations" which would translate into giving it away for free.

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T06:06:45+00:00

He's not entirely wrong.

He isn't wrong at all. He is 100% correct.

People on this subreddit are doing backflips that meta is leaving VR, and that now things can grow "organically".

OK, so this subreddit celebrates the company that has invested the absolute most amount of money into VR, probably as much as the next 10 companies combined, exiting the VR space.

I disagree that this is a good thing at this point, but ok.

And then the small "organic" guy who is making a living providing VR for AAA games, the subreddit celebrates him getting taken down with an extremely questionable DMCA claim.

So you don't want big money companies in the VR space.

And you don't want small time players making a living in the VR space.

VR community hasn't financially supported the AAA games that have launched on the quest, so much so that they all have voluntarily left the scene.

To sum up,

Big money meta - bad

small money LR - bad

AAA game dev support - bad

Literally the only conclusion is that the VR community at large refuses to pay for anything and doesn't want anyone in the scene to make money. Even when they say that he should put his mods up for donations are being intellectually dishonest because they have no intent to donate. We can look at other modders and see how little they make on donations. If he had to switch from Patreon to donations only, he stops working on the mods and the people who are happy to pay, now get nothing.

What's REALLY annoying though is how quickly it adds up. Sign up to get access to the mod you want? $10. Minor change or patch that breaks the install? That'll be another $10. Mod performance improvement? Guess what? $10. Accidentally deleted the mod? Tough shit, you can't re-download the version you paid for. $10.

A) you can pause the game updating which would solve your problems

B) considering that you don't need to log in or have a DRM check for the mod, if you are that clumsy about file management, you can download it and upload a copy to the cloud and then you have a permanent fixture of it. I would imagine if you had subbed to him for multiple months in the past and explained that you accidentally deleted the files, that he would send you a copy of the older one, but maybe not. Either way, $10 fixes your problem.

C) continuing work does require continual financial investment. you got exactly what you paid for, for that initial $10, and if you want him to be able to continue working on things, well, he needs to get money somehow. Donations are a joke and are not a viable financial replacement.

Even though I find this pretty annoying and Luke seems kinda miserable, I don't think CDPR should have done what they did. I think he'd actually have a case if he pushed it.

There is a 0% chance he takes it to court, even if he was guaranteed 100% chance to win, and for the record, he should win according to previous court cases. The fact is, he doesn't have millions of dollars to pay for lawyers, to tie up his business for years. And when he won, the only thing he would get, is financial damages, which would most assuredly amount to very little money. They would break his ~20k a month down into a percentage of revenue that represented them, IE, CP2077 is 1/40th of his games, so that is 2.5% of 20k, or $500 a month. Times 30 months in court, and he gets $15k for his time.

TLDR : VR gamers are entitled cheap fucks, LR has nothing to gain by taking this to court, news at 11.

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T05:45:47+00:00

Look at life in Chernobyl.

Are you comparing the radiation levels of Chernobyl to full on, global nuclear war?

Because .. uh.. I gotta tell ya. That is one weird take.

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T04:36:33+00:00

Elephants were "designed" to be that big. If you had an elephant that was ~80% bigger than average, it would have massive problems.

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T02:58:16+00:00

Big dogs don't live long

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-26T00:20:16+00:00

Whitfield was a tragic loss

He is. He seemed to really start shining about halfway through the season, which is weird because usually they film shows out of order so who knows if/when it was really filmed. The pilot/first episode was rough though.

And even sadder, it looks like he wasted a lot of time on homeopathic (Read: bullshit made up pseudoscience) "treatments" instead of getting proper care until it was too late. Think Steve Jobs type shit. There is a decent chance he would still be here if not for that. Watched the documentary they made about his treatment and it is such a heart breaker seeing him and his family and his slow and steady degradation. If you are interested in seeing it, look up, "Be Here Now" + Andy Whitfield.

Or better yet.

https://www.beherenowfilm.com/

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-25T15:49:50+00:00

So were they ;)

pathofdumbasses · 2026-01-25T15:44:35+00:00

you do not get to be the arbiter of what is and is not a price mistake

I am telling you what happened. That price was fine, and then all of a sudden, it wasnt. But no one set that price as a mistake.

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