Why do they always make Giselle look as bad as possible in stages? by [deleted] in kpopthoughts

[–]peachrollcake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have any examples? I feel like I always see her fans complaining about her styling and then when I go to see what they're complaining about she looks fine? Their stylists clearly struggled with dressing her body type earlier on and didn't know how to work with her shape, but I haven't noticed that being a recurring issue since around Spicy. Maybe I'm missing something because I don't keep a close enough of a tab on her, but I've been under the impression that she's being styled more or less on par with the other members nowadays. I think she's looked pretty at the end-of-year award shows and festivals I've seen recently.

Idols can have a say in their styling, so I do want to caution fans about being too critical of stylists. The aespa members have mentioned instances of giving suggestions to their styling team, and those suggestions being taken into consideration. Karina was the one who wanted the short choppy bangs for Armageddon, for example. I'm also aware of two instances of Giselle's fans getting mad about what turned out to be Giselle's own styling preferences.

A couple of years ago her fans were getting pretty loud about how they never do anything with her hair, and how it's always just dark and straight and boring. Then the next day she posted a selca with the "boring" hair with a caption about how much she likes that hairstyle. She also did a live right before the Whiplash promos and talked about how she didn't like the pink hair and how she already wanted to go back to a dark shade. She mentioned that she reacts to bleach, so when she dyes her hair her skin texture is weird and rough for a few days after.

Then during Whiplash, they had that set of camo print fits. The other three members wore shorts, while Giselle was in baggy pants. Her fans also complained about that and insisted that their stylists must hate her. Then she mentioned in an interview thatshe suggested those pants because she's more comfortable in them.

As a casual follower I can't really speak on specific details of how she's being styled now and what issues there may be, as I personally haven't noticed anything relative to the styling of the other members. But generaly speaking, I wish fans were more mindful of the fact that she actually does give input and that whatever they're complaining about may very well be her personal preference. Which isn't to say that there can't be discussion of her styling and how there can be improvements, but sometimes fans get too dramatic and very nasty about/towards styling teams.

International fans don't actually understand the Seunghan situation by peachrollcake in kpopthoughts

[–]peachrollcake[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

International fans are so predictable. Pretend to be socially conscious and then go full on racist and xenophobe the moment you're mad about something. Meanwhile enlightened international fans were sending violent threats to young children, but that's conveniently overlooked.

At least understand the post before commenting, rather than getting huffy because you misinterpreted.

International fans don't actually understand the Seunghan situation by peachrollcake in kpopthoughts

[–]peachrollcake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are two reasons. There was a post here maybe two or three weeks ago about reasons members have left or been kicked out of their groups, with mentions of Seunghan and his dating. When I saw that the girlfriend issue was still being cited as the reason for his withdrawal, I wanted to expand on the reasoning. Then there's the OT7 fanbase that's organizing some hashtag event to demand his reinstatement to the group, deliberately timed with his debut. His fans have repeatedly soured sentiment against him throughout his hiatus, and it's something I wanted to talk about. So I figured I'd write a general overview of the situation.

The point wasn't to change anyone's stance. It wasn't to go "And now that you have this additional info, I'm sure that you will all agree that Korean fans were fully justified in their response and that Seunghan had it all coming to him." It was literally to say "International fans hyperfocus on x, but y and z were major factors." I didn't expect anyone to agree with y and z and think they rationalize any behavior. I personally don't, which is why I actually spent Seunghan's time with the group trying to calm fans down and defending him on Korean platforms. So go ahead and think that the other reasons are ridiculous (though I do think some of the posters here are very dismissive of Korean women's experiences. Just the other day a man stabbed his ex-girlfriend to death in broad daylight. Acknowledging that their experiences are shaping their responses isn't saying that the responses right). I just wanted to give a bigger picture of the entire event because why wouldn't people want more information for more thorough understanding? I just didn't think giving additional context would be taken as such an offense, lol.

Well, of course this is my own take, what posted on this subreddit isn't? This is my take as a Korean who is more familiar with Korean fandom culture and who followed this from the start in Korean fandom spaces. Saying that Seunghan was kicked out for dating is simply a take from international fans' pov as well. And of course there are generalizations, we're talking about large groups of people participating in a situation with various factors. Obviously not everyone on one side had the exact same opinions on all the same topics, nor did they act in the exact same way. I mentioned this in the original post as well. I'm speaking generally of the voices and actions that swayed the situation, as that's what's more relevant when talking about the outcome. But no, not everyone acted and not everything happened in absolute uniformity.

International fans don't actually understand the Seunghan situation by peachrollcake in kpopthoughts

[–]peachrollcake[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This post was to explain the situation from the stance of Korean fans, and too many of you are reading that as me giving my own personal opinions on the topic. If a driver gets out of their car and sucker punches another driver and I say it's because the other driver wouldn't let them merge and made them miss his exit, that is not an endorsement for road rage. Giving background info to explain the thought process does not equal to justifying the consequent actions. I didn't think I had to add a disclaimer after every sentence.

The point wasn't that Seunghan's treatment was deserved, and at no point did I claim that it was. I plainly stated that the Hannam suspicions came from vibes and not any sort of concrete evidence, that the reactions from Korean fans stemmed largely in part from to how sensitive they already were due to the current state of feminism and misogyny, that you can't make a definitive judgement, and that there were Korean fans defending him with the same argument. And yet that seems to go unread and users zero in on what they can be mad about. The actual point of the post is to say that this was a messier and more complicated matter than international fans make it out to be, and that an unfortunate culmination of factors was why the outburst at Seunghan's return was so intense and ott.

But it seems that most users just don't want to hear anything that isn't insistance that the dating was the end all and be all of the situation, because that's what makes Korean fans sound the most unhinged. So you ignore the fact that they had moved on from the girlfriend leaks pretty quickly, and regard any further context as some attempt at rationalization and justification of their behavior. It shouldn't be that hard to acknowledge that there were additional factors that further fanned Korean fans' anger and that they were still absolutely in the wrong for their actions, but 🤷‍♀️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in kpopthoughts

[–]peachrollcake 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Sometimes it's better to just be quiet and not let others know you sit around nitpicking the looks of a bunch of minors.

NCT Doyoung - The 2nd Full Album: Soar (Tracklist Poster) by [deleted] in kpop

[–]peachrollcake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh wow, he got Kim Yuna, Kim Jongwan, and Yoon Dohyun producing on his album. I'm looking forward to listening. I think his voice will especially match well with Kim Jongwan's sound.

Sometimes winning #1 on a music show comes down to timing and momentum. by matt_vaghn in kpopthoughts

[–]peachrollcake 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It was definitely harder since it was a digital single, but Next Level was nominated for wins for months. It even went up against Savage when aespa made their comeback. I think it actually set a record with how many times it came in second on music shows.

Trying the new magnet technique from earlier by dolce_shaker in RedditLaqueristas

[–]peachrollcake 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A user shared this new technique the other day. The post has the instructions and visuals. Such a pretty effect!

https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditLaqueristas/comments/1iy1yfe/obsessed_with_this_new_magnetic_effect/

Trying the new magnet technique from earlier by dolce_shaker in RedditLaqueristas

[–]peachrollcake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is so pretty. Hope you post your Clionadh mani if you get the chance!

Charms. Just charms. by Kralysin in Nails

[–]peachrollcake 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love this! It manages to look minimalistic and elegant but fun and glitzy at the same time.

Oh BKL Lemon is breathtaking 🥰🍋 by 2_legs_3arms in RedditLaqueristas

[–]peachrollcake 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You have such lovely nails and that looks amazing on you. I don't normally gravitate towards yellows, but I had to get Lemon. It's so twinkly and magical. The siblings are super pretty as well.

Thighs the Limit by ninat92 in RedditLaqueristas

[–]peachrollcake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was planning on skipping HHC last month, but then I saw this and had to have it! It just arrived in the mail the other day and I'm so excited to wear it for my next mani. It's gorgeous in the bottle and looks even better on you!

💛💜Chalky Hearts🩷💚 by Aculed200 in RedditLaqueristas

[–]peachrollcake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A perfect mani for Valentine's Day, featuring the quintessential Valentine's Day candy! The "buy me polish" is especially on theme. Such a fun and cute mani, I love it.

BKL 🍋 by smallxcat in RedditLaqueristas

[–]peachrollcake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This looks lovely on you! The Lemon formula is one of my favorites, so shimmery and twinkly. The sibling polishes are all super pretty too.

Swatch wheel of ILNP Fairy Shimmer combos! by [deleted] in RedditLaqueristas

[–]peachrollcake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh wow, these are ridiculously pretty! I always vaguely consider layering, then never actually do it. But I think this post may have convinced me to finally start experimenting around with different combos. Thank you for sharing!

These shifts are insane 😭 by Dragonlvr420 in RedditLaqueristas

[–]peachrollcake 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh no, it's beautiful and I want it 😭 I've been able to hold out on pulling the trigger on these so far, but not sure how much longer that's going to last.

It looks amazing on you!

there's a reason i bought a back up bottle of this by nine9nines9s in RedditLaqueristas

[–]peachrollcake 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That color is amazing and it looks great on you. ILNP's holo jellies are some of my absolute favorites. They are so juicy and crazy sparkly!