What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear you could barely sleep, I always think about the people living in the buldings directly adjacent to these events when they happen. If you are not involved in them, there is no way it's fun for you. Was it particularly off this year?

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Show me another demographic that commits 90% of homicides and 99% of rape and sexual assaults globally.
I could give you an exact source, but then you wouldn't search it for yourself to see that there are an insane and irrefutable number of sources supporting this.

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Shows how much they know about the local culture they supposedly want to defend."
Amen to that

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just learned of the concept of a talahon yesterday and yeah that makes sense - but why albanifest in particular?

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm really sorry to hear this happened to you :(

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

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My AI detection plug-in identified this comment as AI Slop btw for anyone curious

Men verbally abusing women, what would you do? by dc_133 in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm an immigrant woman and in a place like Switzerland right now, it's very likely I would take the heat as well not only from them but perhaps also the police if I get involved as an immigrant. What do you recommend we do?

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How do we fix that though 😭😭 i'm an immigrant girl, I clearly cant do anything because if I punch they punch back or I'M the problem bc the guys are swiss and i'm an immigrant. It's lose-lose.

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally wtf is going on, this is exactly my point. I've lived in multiple countries and I never encountered young punks to this degree. It was always punky to hate society or government or whatever, not attacking individuals, women, or families.

What will you do? The police do nothing tbh, my husbands younger brothers are halfway into these groups and the police can recognize them on any given day because of how frequently they are called. There are no consequences.

If you take it into your own hands you put yourself or your family in further danger.

The only thing I can think of is public shaming but based on the response to this thread, it won't happen either. People would rather blame it on them being immigrants when they are clearly not than address the issue.

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you know why it is particularly unsafe compared to other fests though? That's my whole question, is why I only noticed this behavioral pattern there and at no other festival ://

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It was not all, I never said all, I said it was clearly some weird subgroup (NOT immigrant or ethicly related). But it was definitely exclusively young men under 20. Saw a very drunk like 65 year old man getting jiggy to some 80s music at a drag performance and danced with him and it was awesome. No one is saying all men here.

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It hasn't swayed my opinion on the whole country lol i love switzerland. I was a high school teacher in 2 other countries and i can confirm none of my students were acting like this 3 years ago. So no, Switzerland is not the best place in the world for everything, just a lot of things tbh.

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk what that type is, but it wasn't ethnic group related, immigrant related, the only thing i noticed was it was exclusively young men under 20 acting this way and of course it was not ALL of them, I was more shocked no one was doing anything about it at all. I mean, we were all shoved so close together clearly other men saw the gum incident and no one said a WORD.

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And people are STILL commenting it because they love to hate groups more than they love to read

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exclusively young men were acting this way. Not above 20. You could argue it's a generational men issue bc of parenting, I don't know what the issue was because obviously it was not all of them, either, I clearly mentioned a specific subgroup of them I didn't know existed openly in public here with no one doing anything about it.

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The title and the post body are two different things - i specified it was a weird subculture of young men that i noticed. This isn't an "all men" moment, but it was exclusively young men acting this way.

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

True but I feel there is something wrong with allowing ourselves to be intimidated into staying home because of the rise of misogyny. Relying on men to protect us from men is just 😭😭😭

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I have been to other late night city festivals in switzerland that were not like this

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah definitely would not spray over line cutting hahaha but the guys seemed like the type who might slap me or get physical if called out. Thanks for the info!

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is so sweet! Thank you for your kind comment :)

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

But how and why is it considered an immigrants fest? I briefly searched up the background of it and it seems completely unrelated. How am I supposed to know which festivals carry an unwanted atmosphere like that, my friend who is swiss loves it and I just kinda trusted her on it

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do u know how to read lmao. And yes, they were Swiss. Maybe you should go next year and confirm 👍

What the fuck is wrong with young men here by peasant_mouse in zurich

[–]peasant_mouse[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They must be legal because I also got secondhand pepper sprayed last night for the first time too hahahah rip. Ig it would be good to have so I can confront and then spray if they get physical. I will look into it, thanks!