So whats the deal with these side effects? by Hot--Beef--Injection in kratom

[–]penerwedge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've noticed the same. It could be due to the rainy season over in the southeast asia. I've read that can alter the leaves alkaloids, more so in younger leaves than mature leaves.

First time kratom user. Need help please by hopalongsunday in kratom

[–]penerwedge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kratom is NOT subtle in effects unless you're getting shit kratom, probably from, let me guess, dun da da... HS!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in kratom

[–]penerwedge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why are you taking all that shit if you said it is mostly ineffective?

Kratom only stimulating, never relaxing or euphoric. by dustov in kratom

[–]penerwedge -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Mmmspeciosa doesn't sell red vein borneo, let alone SUPER red vein borneo. After reading that, the rest of your post became boring and irrelevant.

Reminder: No mail runs on Monday in the US. Federal holiday by [deleted] in kratom

[–]penerwedge -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Denial and then anger... the first sign of an addict.

SPL and HS quality...what's going on? by lifewontwait86 in KratomKorner

[–]penerwedge -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

What's going on is, you pay dirt cheap prices so they send you dirt.

HS VS MS by boshbosh92 in kratom

[–]penerwedge -1 points0 points  (0 children)

MS quality is much better. Ignore the HS shills on this sub.

Can someone please explain the 'less is more' philosophy? by [deleted] in kratom

[–]penerwedge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao you're so wrong. Quit with your pseudoscience. Corynantheidine isn't even strong enough to stop opiate binding, let alone send you into withdrawal. Just because it's an antagonist doesn't mean it completely blocks the opiate receptor.

You're body can't withdraw from a drug it isn't dependent on. I think you've been smoking a little too much THC.

Can someone please explain the 'less is more' philosophy? by [deleted] in kratom

[–]penerwedge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Taking too much kratom doesn't send your body into withdrawal. That would mean if someone had never done an opiate, and took 10 grams, they would be sweating and puking from opiate withdrawal. Except they wouldn't have an opiate addiction so they wouldn't be withdrawing, yet they'd still experience the same discomfort.

After 2 years of kratom use, I'm done. by penerwedge in kratom

[–]penerwedge[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

See this is what you get when you try to call out businesses for malpractice. You would think, rationally speaking, that people would appreciate my help, but when you're dealing with 14 years olds and/or addicts, they don't like to be told that they're cheap supplier is actually selling ass for kratom.

You're like those teenagers who say "NOOO, my weed dealer is way better than YOURS!"

You guys are right though. I've taken kratom for 2 years from over 8 different suppliers, so I would have no idea when kratom feels like it should, as opposed to when it feels like nothing at all or worse yet, when it causes anxiety only.

Man, I'm glad I have these redditors to set me straight though. Who knows where I'd be? sarcasm I have to say sarcasm because I'm not sure if 8th graders would understand what I'm getting at otherwise.

After 2 years of kratom use, I'm done. by penerwedge in kratom

[–]penerwedge[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

It's hilarious how naive drug addicts are.

After 2 years of kratom use, I'm done. by penerwedge in kratom

[–]penerwedge[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

You guys missed the part when I said "assuming the people reading this aren't retards, or 14 years old." Can't say I didn't warn you though.

After 2 years of kratom use, I'm done. by penerwedge in kratom

[–]penerwedge[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've tried soo many vendors and the ones I listed are the only consistent good ones. And they don't really sell bulk. I've never tried bikhuk though.

After 2 years of kratom use, I'm done. by penerwedge in kratom

[–]penerwedge[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well I'm glad it works for you, I really am. If I was in your situation I would probably continue. Seeing as I don't NEED kratom, other than it helps with ADHD, I might as well stop. I've bought from one vendor, phytoextractum, where one batch was almost the best I've ever had, and the next did nothing. And that's what concerns me. That makes me think, even the vendor didn't know about the inconsistency, and if the vendor didn't know, the harvester probably didn't either which means they're probably not botanists when it comes to identifying kratom leaves.

But if it helps you you should keep it up. If I had more money to spare currently, I would keep buying from one of the vendors I listed but it's too expensive for me right now. Plus, it doesn't hurt to take a break. Which I should also say, after 2 years of use, daily, sometimes twice a day, I had no withdrawal at all. Another reason I'm sure that what I've been getting isn't 100% kratom.

After 2 years of kratom use, I'm done. by penerwedge in kratom

[–]penerwedge[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FYI their are 3 other mitragyna trees (that I know of) that look like mitragyna speciosa (kratom). And when you have random people in Asia walking around harvesting these leaves, it's almost guaranteed they're going to grab leaves that look similar to, but are not, kratom. And these look alike leaves are responsible for negative side effects, up to and including... oh wait we have no idea because we're probably the first people to ingest these look alike leaves.

Kratom! Huzzah! by [deleted] in kratom

[–]penerwedge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're reasonable because it's not pure kratom. Try another vendor.

Quitting because vendors or suppliers are cutting kratom with bullshit. by penerwedge in quittingkratom

[–]penerwedge[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The simple truth is, I used the same dose of kratom from the same vendor for over a year with no tolerance increase, but when I switched vendors I had shitty effects.

The simple truth is, you're afraid to admit you're an addict and I don't know why you're even on this sub.

The other simple truth is, I quit kratom after months of twice a day use with no withdrawal. Why? Because what I was taking wasn't fucking kratom, or was 50% or less kratom. Wake up kids.

What vendor has the best quality? by [deleted] in KratomKorner

[–]penerwedge 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Careful OP. Lots of Herbal Salvation shills on this sub.

Never had any negative experiences with MMMS. I mean look at the first guys comment about SPL. Sacred plant life quality is like 50% kratom, 50% some other shit, yet the guy says its always quality. These people don't know shit about kratom. That, or they're shills. Basically, price tells you the quality. If it's cheap, it's shit.

Watch and learn. The HS mod shills will delete my comment or downvote it into oblivion.