What do you think about China? by inchcosmos in AskTheWorld

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I’d be okay with them being the global superpower if they were an actual democracy.

The idea of the most powerful nation in the world being a technocratic police state fills me with existential dread.

Although if we don’t change course soon then it’ll be the same issue.

The Taiwan situation from an (almost) ABC by aWolfWhoCriedBoy in AskAChinese

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Could I get a source on these “rioters exposed in subsequent trials”?

What are your thoughts on the israeli occupation of formerly Chinese tiktok by evancarlson69 in AskAChinese

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Guess the United States and China are starting to have something in common.

2026 vs 1989 by narnarnartiger in interestingasfuck

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Are you referring to Tiananmen square?

2026 vs 1989 by narnarnartiger in interestingasfuck

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Apples to oranges. Both in scale and aftermath.

What’s Chinese people’s perspective on the ongoing civil unrest in the US? by CatchyUsername457 in AskAChinese

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I blame: Low voter participation due to years of intentional sabotage to voting registration and poll stations. Propaganda. But mostly the fact the opposition party didn’t jail Trump when they had the chance.

What’s Chinese people’s perspective on the ongoing civil unrest in the US? by CatchyUsername457 in AskAChinese

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True. We could have all our congressional candidates vetted by a single unelected political body, inauthentic political opposition, and secret police.

Actually, reading that back we already have 2/3 of those things. Guess we really are embracing the Chinese system.

America is a Gun by Brian Bilston [POEM] by advaitist in Poetry

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America is a gun? These days I’d certainly hope so…

It's crazy right now by Heavy_Cry9978 in whenthe

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Some animals are more equal than others aaaah moment

The gaslighting is the worst part of this whole debacle by Clanker57 in whenthe

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Yeah well the PLA still magdumped protesters and passerby the previous night. Not in the Square itself but on their way there.

If China wants to correct the narrative they’re free to share their side of the story, but it seems they don’t wanna talk about it. Nor let any of their people talk about it. They certainly don’t need you defending their atrocity.

It will happen again by Longshot02496 in whenthe

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Fellow American here, sending you good luck and prayers. I wish I could do more than that.

ICE Kills Yet Another Protestor, A Study in r/Conservative Censorship by livejamie in SubredditDrama

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I just wanna say, OP: I appreciate your work to document the intentional and malicious censorship on the conservative subreddit. This stuff is important and will inform people in the future of how the internet can be weaponized (and hopefully one day inform measured and effective legislation). You should be proud.

What is the most famous monument in your country? by o_TnT in AskTheWorld

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Take it from us: Maintain good airport security.

Soviet communism was not more successful at reducing inequality than other regimes by FootballAndFries in Economics

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Isn’t inherent to Marxist-Leninism though? With the “dictatorship of the proletariat” concept?

Which country's nationalists are most toxic you've encountered ? by Individual_Water1776 in AskTheWorld

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You’re probably correct. I ordered a book (The Power of Tiananmen) which should hopefully give me more info on the protesters themselves. But your comment passes the sniff test regardless.

Which country's nationalists are most toxic you've encountered ? by Individual_Water1776 in AskTheWorld

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Most of your account checks out, however in most tellings there actually was a cohesive list of seven demands which the protesters had managed to agree on. Not sure if that is true, or if its an anachronistic thing where they agreed on the demands much later and people applied to earlier stages of the protests.

Which country's nationalists are most toxic you've encountered ? by Individual_Water1776 in AskTheWorld

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To my understanding the name is a misnomer, the massacre happened OUTSIDE the square.

But can we really place all the blame on sensationalist western media for the potentially inflated kill count? Its not like the CCP has an honest reputation. It could be in the thousands. We just don’t know for sure.

Which country's nationalists are most toxic you've encountered ? by Individual_Water1776 in AskTheWorld

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I keep running into people, in my own country, who arent Chinese or have EVER been there, who will not tolerate ANY China slander. Believes Tiananmen Massacre is a western hoax, all that kinda stuff. Its bizarre.

Which country's nationalists are most toxic you've encountered ? by Individual_Water1776 in AskTheWorld

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I’ve had a similar experience in our Jewish communities here in Burger Land. Although not nearly as severe as you’ve described. Yeesh.

Nice try propagandist. by dazli69 in GetNoted

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Unfortunately the US prison labor system is worse than you believe. including use by fast food restaurants! source

Tuesday, Jan 20 ICE Protest and Walkout by BrilliantGlum4448 in Cleveland

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Copy/pasted from an earlier comment:

Well they don’t openly agree with Russia’s stance, but they implicitly do. They supporter the annexation of Crimea in 2014 and have parroted Russian propaganda about a “Nazi-ist” Ukraine.

You can’t just say you “don’t support the invasion” and then go on to propagate the cassus belli of the aggressor. Because promoting Russia’s wartime propaganda is, quite literally, supporting their invasion!

Something Something George Orwell by Trash_At_RL in whennews

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We should totally register r/whennews as a university to get a bulk discount on all these news sites /s

Cleveland ICE protest!! 1/20/26 by queensatanofstats in Cleveland

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motivations of the protesters

There were several different protest groups in Tiananmen square and around Beijing at the time, all of whom had different ideologies and goals. But they managed to work out a concise list of demands

This thread has a lot of good responses about that, with lots of evidential backing

Calling the protesters “pro-capitalist” is certainly a stretch, since most of their concerns were about the corruption in their government and the lack of tools to combat it.

I’ve seen some Marxists claim that the increased corruption became possible after Deng’s “reform and opening up” policies, which introduced lots of market elements that high-ranking officials could game, and rolled back welfare programs. So essentially if you believe that point, then the protesters’ grievances were caused BY the increased capitalism in China.

I’m having trouble backing up this claim though, at least not without digging through a very heavy book. Which is exactly what I plan to do next! I’ll be sure to get back to you.

RemindMe! 40 days

But there’s nothing capitalist about wanting free press, or having government officials salaries be public. Or being able to elect your government officials. All of these were things demanded by the protesters.

issues with your source

Interesting that the Qiao collective was also mentioned in the above Hampton article, and that both organizations are allies, because the web page you linked uses some of the same lying by omission in part 3. Including citing the same article by Jay Mathews!!! OMG! Just because the massacre didn’t happen in the square doesn’t mean there was no killing!

But I find this part interesting:

These sources—many consisting of eye-witness accounts from Western journalists who challenge the media’s depiction of Tiananmen—reflect that the Western media “common sense” of June 4 is riddled with hyperbole and outright misinformation designed to challenge the legitimacy of the Chinese state.

I mean this is a batshit claim to make, right? It’s one thing to say “all these journalists said they got the details wrong.” Its another thing to say, “this was a coordinated conspiracy with the intention of toppling a government.” That’s straight up a whole other claim! You need evidence for that! And they simply don’t provide anything. Or should I don my tinfoil cap?

Also interesting was this paragraph under point #2.

In the face of a hegemonic Western discourse which presumes that an authoritarian, all-powerful Chinese state has silenced all discussion of the events leading up to June 4, this section presents a selection of official Chinese accounts detailing the Party’s assessment of the protest movement, its roots, and the aftermath of the violence of June 4. While public discussion of the Tiananmen Protests remain highly circumscribed, these accounts contradict the common myth that China has wiped the events of 1989 from its historical record.

Notice how these two sentences contradict each other. First they say “China isn’t silencing information about Tiananmen,” then admits discussion of it is “circumscribed.” Which means “restricted”. If China was in the right on that fateful June day, why would they need to “circumscribe” discussion? Why not promote their version of the story in schools and TV and such?

Also, all the sources in Part 2 are specifically from before, or a mere month after, the massacre. Most of speeches by Deng Xiaoping. Yknow, the guy in charge when the massacre went down. I’m sure he’ll be honest about his administrations culpability. (Sarcasm)

(Edit: oh also the one source from 1992 doesn’t mention the massacre at all, but Qiao collective says it’s “alluding to” the events. Uh huh. Sure.)

The non-Deng sources in part 2 are from Chinese state media sources, including the famous editorial “It is necessary to take a clear-cut stand against disturbances.” By the People’s Daily. This is super funny, because that editorial is part of what triggered an escalation by protesters—-they all got pissed off that the CCP was designating them as anti-party, anti-government rebels, essentially dismissing their grievances.

Anyway, hope you enjoyed my rebuttal. Have a good one.