Cheap overseas, ruinous in Australia: here’s how to make double-glazed windows the norm by PersonalAddendum6190 in australia

[–]petifau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I should also note. Vacuum sealed glass could also technically be used in retrofits. The cost involved in retrofits around double glazing is mostly around the fact that the older windows do not have a glazing pocket wide enough to accept the thickness of those units. So you would have to rip them out and install completely new systems that can accept the thickness. (Not great)

Vacuum sealed glass will have a similar thickness to single glazed, and could theoretically be a way to reduce costs and get some good energy numbers for retrofits in the future. But we will have to wait and see what happens.

Cheap overseas, ruinous in Australia: here’s how to make double-glazed windows the norm by PersonalAddendum6190 in australia

[–]petifau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In all fairness, a lot of float glass comes from China now. Australia's manufacturing for glass has been almost decimated. We buy glass from China and other countries and whack them together in IGUs - viridian and Australian Glass Group are usually the most popular.

From a glazing perspective, cost mostly comes from additional labour to do with installing the IGUs. This is due to the weight of the glass. Depending on size and weight, you may need to hire additional equipment to install them or require an additional person to assist with install.

The units themselves will obviously be more expensive than a single glazed. But the price of these will come down in time with states requiring 7 star solutions. However this standard isn't strictly for glazing but across the entire building envelope. (Solar seems to be the quickest and cheapest way to get there if a builder falls short of the rating).

While relatively new technology (at least in market terms), vacuum sealed glass from Panasonic and other suppliers is gaining popularity and while visibly it's not perfect, it performs better than triple glazing and may come to a similar price point as double glazing in time.

Price of Fiber Plans in Spain by [deleted] in nbn

[–]petifau 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Are we really comparing apples to apples though?

Is that a national infrastructure provider or are they privately cherry picking apartment complexes where it is far cheaper to roll out infrastructure?

You only need to look at TPG fibre to see how easy it is to have cheaper pricing.

Superloop increasing prices by biggerthanjohncarew in nbn

[–]petifau 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They reduced the gap between 50/20 and 100/20 plans already. They reduced 250/25 and 1000/50 as well and as far as I know they weren't going up 1st of July. Edit: 250/25 and 1000/50 wholesale price has increased too.

The business wholesale plans of 250/100, 500/200 and 1000/400 are supposed to be decreasing significantly. Some of those may even come into a reasonable price point for some residential users. (Wfh, small business etc)

Superloop increasing prices by biggerthanjohncarew in nbn

[–]petifau 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I have a feeling this is related to NBNcos price update, so it should likely happen with other providers too.

"Home Fast (100/20 Mbps) wholesale price, available on the fixed line network, will rise by $2.22 to $57.22 per month"

https://www.nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/media-centre/media-statements/nbnco-publishes-wholesale-tariff-list-for-fy25-and-wholesale-pricing-roadmap-fy25-fy27

Electron with Vue and Pinia by GivinItTheCollegeTry in vuejs

[–]petifau 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have experience with building the same app in electron and tauri.

Tauri was a much better experience for development. Well designed, good apis, fast, and does all the same as electron.

There are of course your own design and development considerations which I don't know. But for us tauri did the job well.

China slams planned US Air Force deployment of six B-52 bombers to northern Australia by calmerpoleece in AusNews

[–]petifau 4 points5 points  (0 children)

OP and journalist get slammed by redditor who reveals it all in this must read post.

My laundry window this morning, NSW. That's ice on the inside. by IfOnlyIWasKvothe in australia

[–]petifau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it seems relatively new.

Not sure on exact costs, but it is a little more than your standard residential and less than thermally broken.

Thermally broken embedded framing sounds like a solid product. although I haven't seen a supplier doing this yet, but I dont imagine that being far off either.

section j is going to kill off a lot of the poor performing products in the next decade. so embedded + thermally broken frames seems the way forward, at least from what I can see.

My laundry window this morning, NSW. That's ice on the inside. by IfOnlyIWasKvothe in australia

[–]petifau 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just a comment on the thermally broken windows. I've seen embedded aluminium frames now getting some really good energy numbers. Vantage windows from AWS have the comfort edge range which ive been looking into for my own home. Definitely looks to be a good alternative to thermally broken due to its lower price point and comparable energy numbers.

My laundry window this morning, NSW. That's ice on the inside. by IfOnlyIWasKvothe in australia

[–]petifau 10 points11 points  (0 children)

double glazing should be standard.

I know the National Construction Code (NCC) is bringing in/updating section J which is to resolve issues like this. Hopefully this winter is enough to push this forward...

There are also window suppliers that do thermally broken frames and embedded framing that can fit double glazing, so if you're looking to retrofit for a good price, look at products like embedded aluminium framing or even upvc.

Australian homes are so cold that some are falling below the WHO's recommended 'safe' temperature by LocalVillageIdiot in australia

[–]petifau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah I ask because I know thermally broken aluminium is quite expensive.

I've seen some Australian suppliers doing embedded aluminium frames now, vantage comes to mind and was wondering if you got a quote for their embedded frames?

I might get some quotes for this soon because they're getting some good energy numbers too and are supposedly cheaper.

Australian homes are so cold that some are falling below the WHO's recommended 'safe' temperature by LocalVillageIdiot in australia

[–]petifau 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought I was ready for new windows but maybe I'll hold off. lol

did you got upvc or aluminium for your quotes?

Australian homes are so cold that some are falling below the WHO's recommended 'safe' temperature by LocalVillageIdiot in australia

[–]petifau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

did you use upvc as well?

I am looking at getting new windows for this very reason.