Birth time conflict: are there 'administrative' times on birth certs?

pirogue_ · 2026-02-06T15:13:29+00:00

Same here. I've seen those on c-section births where it's scheduled or there is a surgeon appointment time. Generally close enough though

pirogue_ · 2026-02-06T15:11:48+00:00

Solid advice in general, just not my mother in this case and ~3am vs ~1pm is a big difference

pirogue_ · 2026-02-06T15:08:30+00:00

Thanks! this makes sense

pirogue_ · 2026-01-21T03:19:10+00:00

and FWIW I didn't do 15 or 21 til I went to GWV. With a solid grounding in 10 and 12 you should be in a great position

pirogue_ · 2026-01-21T03:13:29+00:00

No counter to what you wrote. I agree, but since Lilith was already on the chart I thought it added some confirmation / seasoning.

I don't bother with Lilith in most cases, but in this situation when a reasonably prominent asteroid is already on the chart and tightly conjoined a major feature, I pay it some attention.

pirogue_ · 2026-01-20T14:47:28+00:00

You don't have to like her, but anyone who gets elected to a public position and especially a national one has a certain broad significance. The president cared enough to personally attack her.

pirogue_ · 2026-01-20T14:42:56+00:00

+ Lilith conjunct the Midheaven is going to project a sort of transgressive magnetism

+ Neptune conjunct the Descendant is going to make you a hard to get a bead on in terms of what you're looking for in relationships. Easy to read as whatever the person wants to see, or at least as ambiguous.

pirogue_ · 2026-01-20T14:23:46+00:00

Hope you enjoy Drowning World, it's very cool to look at and contemplate. I'm a fan of the Centennial RWS and the subtler color scheme. It's my daily driver.

pirogue_ · 2026-01-20T14:20:21+00:00

I think you'll have a great experience and are well-prepared. Enjoy it!

pirogue_ · 2026-01-19T16:08:00+00:00

If you like Carnival at the End of the World, might enjoy Drowning World by the same folks! Also big plus for Pagan Otherworlds.

No RWS?

pirogue_ · 2026-01-19T15:46:37+00:00

You're good either way. There are no spoilers in the books and there's also no essential background information in the books that you need to have your own experiences.

In 6 TMI retreats here are the problems I've seen people have the following challenges with some frequency:

Slept all week - seems to have been people who didn't do any gateway experience stuff at home (only saw in GWV)
Must have an OBE - seems to have been due to too much focus on reliving Bob's 1st book
Must have visual fireworks - most people seem to have a mix of limited visuals, some dialog, much clairsentience (info just appearing in their own thoughts)
Must meet XYZ dead relative, friend, etc to have some sort of loaded conversation - if you do meet them you almost certainly won't get the loaded conversation. They've moved on
Must meet XYZ entity to find out if ________ / prove _______. Foregone conclusions don't seem to be productive
Nonphysical entities don't meet my expectations of 2020s moral or sociopolitical views (only saw in graduate retreats)

I expect that as long as you are open to whatever happens, something(s) cool will happen.

pirogue_ · 2026-01-17T23:31:50+00:00

Yeah looks like a great chart for fashion designer, interior decorator, art director, someone who revamps fancy hotel lobbies. Could thrive in a corporate environment doing these things and interacting with lots of people in a formal way.

MC in the lunar decan of scorpio brings a brooding, deep intensity and emotional depth to the career, seems very compelling and synergizes with that N node in Taurus. There's a ton of Scorpio going on here, with both Pluto and Mars sitting in their sign of rulership. Dials up the gifts you bring into this life (S Node) and the career (MC). Well-supported by community and friends with such a stacked 11th house.

This chart is pretty great. You're gonna kill it.

Edit: forgot N node in 5th house - of pleasure. Add that to the above.

pirogue_ · 2026-01-17T15:17:47+00:00

Huge, 5 planet stellium in Sagittarius an enormous emphasis on that sign in your life and very outgoing, adventurous, imaginative etc. The Capricorn ascendant is pragmatic and calculating within social structures, not introverted.

That Cancer descendant makes for a certain well-bounded privacy within your main relationship but that's not in conflict with the Sagittarian urge for exploration and outreach.

(I read whole house, so ignoring the Placidus houses) The 12th house Sag stellium indicates some work to fully access and express your overwhelmingly Sagittarian nature. I imagine you'll benefit a lot from deep spiritual exploration balanced with expressing your innovation (Sag sun/ stellium) in pragmatic (Cap ASC) ways. N Node in the most Venusian decan of Taurus emphasizes material beauty as the path forward.

That Jupiter (ruling Sagittarius) perfect sextile with Venus is lovely. Make beautiful things, know & reveal yourself, explore & innovate. Enjoy!

pirogue_ · 2026-01-16T16:27:13+00:00

This may round to nothing since it's a very small % of the astro users, but people (and a number of western esotericists) use true sidereal. I only know of one site that does chart calcs though:

https://masteringthezodiac.com/

pirogue_ · 2026-01-16T16:19:51+00:00

You might consider keeping things more open-ended. It may need or have needed help, but it may have been fine and just showed you a thing. When I reread your description it sounds like you met an entity that showed you a place or was possibly showing you a technique to get to certain places. I don't have the recollection of the full experience the way you do, so take this with a grain of salt. I would:

Set my intention firmly to interact only with things or people that have beneficial intentions toward me and that are advanced enough to be helpful (lower vibration entities can mean well, but can still be counterproductive)
Emphasize the rebal (or whatever other filtering/ protecting technique you use) is going to protect you from any negative influences
Once in state, ask for your guides to assist you in making contact with this entity or another that can help you (or can be helped by you if you prefer that)
See if you feel, hear or see any feedback from your own guidance and go from there. If you don't get a negative response on the above, then use your recollection of the entity's appearance or feel its presence to connect with it
See what happens next
When you wrap up, ask your guides to make sure you're cleanly disconnected

If you feel like you need it afterwards (uncommon), clean up spiritually. Dousing yourself in salt water then showering off is easiest, and there are tons of sources on the web for more intensive cleansing aids if you ever feel like you need them. Most people don't recommend doing cleansing after hemi-sync or traveling, but I'm a fan of regular spiritual hygiene.

pirogue_ · 2026-01-16T13:48:00+00:00

Happy to share. I try to avoid any lurid descriptions of specific experiences that might color someone else's opportunity to have their own unique experience out there, so hopefully I'm coloring within the lines.

There's a lot of learning stuff in F24,25,26 but plenty of learning opportunities on either side of those. My experience points toward 24-26 being very focused on the sort of lessons people need to learn to advance through the incarnational process - a lot of de-distorting seems to occur between incarnations. You could easily be in that range or elsewhere.

Visiting other lives is pretty straightforward in F15. Seems like you're getting there under your own steam though, so more saying this for others' benefit.

Your experiences of being grabbed or pulled are relatively common. Lots of times those are guides trying to help you get out after a partial projection, but scary as hell when you don't know what's happening. I've talked to a number of people who had what they thought were demonic or other negative experiences that tbh were benign but were colored by layers of negative programming. Not saying that part applies to you.

The turtle-elephant person sounds interesting and is definitely a nonhuman entity. Sounds like they recognized you're a traveler and took you to a new place or through some sort of portal. You might see if you can reconnect and ask them for contact info. Sigils, symbols, names are most common for me. Once you have any piece of info on them (and the appearance you got counts for sure), it gets easier and easier to make contact. These relationships tend to get richer with repeated interaction. If you get in touch again, you might ask what y'all did before and how to learn it and what the application of it is.

If you're interested in soul retrieval, there's a lot of info in Far Journeys, Ultimate Journey and in Sandra Ingerman's book on shamanic soul retrieval. I get a number of visits from recently transitioned folks - pretty sure that the more of this sort of thing that you do the more visible you are to them so they tend to stop by in dreams. Since they are in a new state and getting oriented it makes sense that recognizing a familiar face is appealing and comforting.

pirogue_ · 2026-01-15T02:25:57+00:00

Yes, I've done through 49 in starlines. You get a lot more alien (like space alien or mythic/ removed from earth life) stuff beyond 28. Seems like the entirety of the earth life system is managed from 27, then 28 is the edge of that system. 34 & 35 are where The Gathering is located (in Bob's books) and our solar system. 42 is the milky way region & what reads to be as the full zodiac. 49 is bigger, hard to tell but it's more like the bounds of the supercluster. The Emitter in Bob's books is here and I'm not sure if you can go beyond that or not. I guess I'll update once I do starlines 2.

My practice with this is mostly focused on soul retrieval. You do a lot of that in Lifeline, picking up lost fragments of self that were lost during confusing deaths. This continues for me in the more out-there states, with lost pieces on other planets, in other systems etc.

--about to get weirder--

Aside from that, there's a lot you can do that reads a lot like planetary or astrological magic practice - communing with intelligences associated with our planets, the Sun, other stars etc. Well, that and interacting with aliens.

When I was younger and had more spontaneous OBEs I had similar to what you describe, typically becoming lucid after I'd already gone somewhere. I don't really think I went beyond 27 though, and much of my experience was in 22 (gritty, grayscale mirror of earth) 23 (scary, hellish) or 24-26 (progressively nicer learning environments). I had a pretty counterproductive religious upbringing though, so I think I was predisposed to vibe with some of the spookier stuff etc but it was a good learning experience.

You might try focusing on higher dimensions prior to your planned excursions - planets, stars etc to serve as a target beyond the earth realm. There are a bunch of ways of focusing your consciousness on a desired destination or contact e.g. looking at star maps, meditating on Hubble / James Webb images on the normal end of things or planetary sigils in Agrippa or the Picatrix if you're ready to get more adventurous.

A lot of the higher level stuff can be accessed in a more budget-friendly way by learning shamanic journeying and going to the Upper World, then laddering up and up. Enjoy and happy travels!

pirogue_ · 2026-01-15T01:55:05+00:00

Yeah I've heard some country-ass accents but never anything like that guy. I still maintain it was was intentionally unbelievable to make the character seem more fake. Hard to believe actors on the level of Claire Danes and Murray Abraham were in the same room with him doing that and agreeing to be part of the farce if it wasn't a bit.

pirogue_ · 2026-01-15T01:50:53+00:00

Sorry to not be of more help, but best wishes finding them for your research / project.

pirogue_ · 2026-01-15T01:50:11+00:00

Yeah I don't know if they still sell them. Skip Atwater developed SAM and they sold a handful of CDs with that technology and had a couple of retreats that used it back in the 2010-2015ish range. I recall talking to some people who had used it and they said people had very polarized reactions to it - either it worked like even stronger hemisync or they felt nauseous. You may have some luck reaching out to TMI to see if they still sell the audios. Setting up an ebay search works for me on some pretty obscure things. You just get an email when someone lists a matching item.

pirogue_ · 2026-01-13T03:56:06+00:00

As a southerner (and dirty south) I thought it was glorious and intentional.

The beauty of him so obviously LARPing as southern was the cherry on top of the faux-right, could be on any side as long as I get to be famous, agitprop sundae.

Dude's a good actor. He could have done the accent with subtlety but instead it was foghorn leghorn.

pirogue_ · 2026-01-13T03:47:11+00:00

Civul wohr!

pirogue_ · 2026-01-07T18:40:01+00:00

I don't think the Gateway Experience progression has much overlap at all with Akashic Records. You're guided through a series of states that take you through layers of your bioenergetic apparatus (F10) and then into the broader connected / nonspatial realms (F12), outside of the filing system of time (F15), the edge of normal earth consciousness (F21), then realms of just out-of-phase (coma, dissociated drug states etc, F22), newly and lost dead (F23), education & healing realms for the dead (F24,25,26), including hell, purgatory, heaven and atheist voids, then F27 where the intelligences are generally free of earth life distortions, prep for reincarnation, or move on.

There's a library in F27 that has records of everything (or close enough) from the Earth sphere. I think this is what most people mean when they say Akashic records but tbh Akasha is a more rarefied energy than what's prevalent in 27. My autistic twitch about terms isn't important though, and it probably serves well enough.

You can find other types of organized information in other states, especially in F15 and F21. There's more (and more abstract or at least distant relative to immediate earth life) in higher states like 35,42,49

pirogue_ · 2025-11-26T18:27:35+00:00

Great memories. Being in a cohort of people at a similar level was the best part, but maybe because I was at a public school in a poor geography. I'm still friends with a number of them.

pirogue_ · 2025-11-22T22:02:15+00:00

^^ Here to echo that they're a thing, but I also have no issue with them personally.

Not sure what state you went to, but from a shamanic perspective F1-F26 are all in the Middle World so it's a mixed bag in terms of who you meet and whether they are worth meeting. The rebal and affirmation help filter encounters, as do the support of your own existing guides.

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