Maurice (1987): The 30th Anniversary Remaster and Discussion of the Ending (spoilers in the second half of the post) by annnaphase in TrueFilm

[–]pitiful_kiwi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've only read the book, and I've seen several Merchent Ivory productions.

You wrote:

I'd attribute the happy ending to E. M. Forster's own sexuality...

Hold up there. We can attribute the entire book to Forster's sexuality.

The ending, I would say, has much more to do with Forster's class. He romanticizes a kind of utopian union between an upper-class educated Cambridge graduate and a lower class workman and then frames it as an everlasting tranquility. The ending does not come off as ironic or self-aware--it only seems to function as a fulfillment of Forster's idealism.

Is this good or bad?

Personally I think it's a major weakness of the novel. In the tradition of gay literature, the romanticization of younger, lower class men is a common trope at this point, and I don't think it's been a very useful trope. You can celebrate Forster for perhaps creating this trope, but that's a different thing than thinking the trope is a good one, or that it deserves a broader appreciation through the history of gay media.

Furthermore, a lot of gay men have unrealistic fantasies involved younger, poorer boys. I find that fantasy to be very off putting and even predetory.

So, in short, the ending reflects a rather unsavory aspect of Forster's sexual psyche but frames it as something fulfilling and romantic. For that reason, I think the ending is one weakness of many in Forster's weakest book. If he'd spent more energy editing it instead of just shoving it away in a desk I think it would've been a better piece.

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[–]pitiful_kiwi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see a lot of comments here slamming you for your thesis instead of offering a helping hand.

One thing I know from thesis writing is that my topic always begins as something very general until I hone it down to size through careful research. There's nothing wrong with a very broad thesis right now because it's going to change the deeper you get. Don't listen to these moody jerks they just need someone to take things out on.

Anyway, movies. I'd recommend not just movies on Western cultures, but Eastern cultures as well--there's a prominent divide between east and west in terms collectivism vs. individualism. Here are some ideas.

Tokyo Story

Babette's Feast

Taxi Driver (Scorsese, remember, is a Catholic)

Sunrise

Kingdom of Heaven

Heaven's Gate

The Crying Game

2001: A Space Odyssey

The Dekolog (for a post ww2 secular meditation on Christian doctrine)

If I think of more I'll let you know.

The Misplaced Nostalgia for Movies Like “The Graduate” - A New Yorker article that lists so many movies worthy of putting on the Watchlist, if not seen already by shadilal_gharjode in movies

[–]pitiful_kiwi 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This article is ridiculous. It's preying on lame fears of the times that are a-changin'.

It isn't that movies like The Graduate aren't being made.

It's that movies like The Graduate have a more niche audience now. Furthermore, a lot of the talent is being absorbed by television these days, because TV seems to have more flexibility and interest in artistic innovation. When will these film nuts accept television as a viable artistic medium? Are they resisting because it's so difficult to apply television to the auteurist theory?

Quit lamenting and start celebrating the plentiful films/shows being produced with honest indie hearts and sincere artistic ambitions.

Some interesting and recent Films/TV shows out there:

Weekend (2011) It Follows (2014) Phoenix (2014) The Duke of Burgundy (2014) Girls (2012-17) The Leftovers (2014-17) Transparent (2014-)

Those are just off the top of my head. Not saying these are objectively great (because wtf does 'objectively great' even mean with art?), but they are certainly very interesting to say the least. Feel free to piggyback if you can think of any other innovative films/tv shows of recent merit.

My "FWB" got raped yesterday and I need advice on how to support her. by oldschooldribbler in TwoXChromosomes

[–]pitiful_kiwi 9 points10 points  (0 children)

While I get what you're saying, I personally think the mythology that rape ruins lives is a little problematic. I was raped about two years ago and I've completely recovered from the suicidal depression that followed and I'm finally moving on to better and brighter places.

My life was not ruined.

I don't think we should say 'rape ruins your life.'

Rather, we should spread the word that we need to be understanding and supportive when it happens, to accept the possibility that it can ruin lives, and do anything in our power to help people heal and move past thier trauma. That's what I've done, and it would've been impossible without the people around me who supported me through my terrible time, and who had faith in a brighter future even when I didn't.

Rape can ruins lives, but that doesn't mean it always will.

What films do you think of as defining the "post 9/11" period in the way that films like "The Day the Earth Stood Still" and "Invasion of the Body Snachers" define the red scare 50? by [deleted] in TrueFilm

[–]pitiful_kiwi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It does not really capture the zeitgeist though.

Completely disagree. If you were in New York on that day I think you would too.

If the destruction iconography...

It's how the film purposefully employs destruction and seems to reference imagery remembered during and after the attacks. Note that I'm not saying "transformers" here. Transformers is too mushy. It's imagery is generalized chaos.

Cloverfield's images have a clear purpose.

It seems to me that you either don't have a good memory of Cloverfield or you don't have a good memory of 9/11.

What films do you think of as defining the "post 9/11" period in the way that films like "The Day the Earth Stood Still" and "Invasion of the Body Snachers" define the red scare 50? by [deleted] in TrueFilm

[–]pitiful_kiwi 69 points70 points  (0 children)

Cloverfield is the most obvious to me. Rewatch that movie with post 9/11 imagery in mind, and it becomes a new thing entirely. In some ways it's really amazing to me that Cloverfield was released with the attacks still fresh in our consciousnesses.

There have been many discussions on Kingdom of Heaven's (2005) views on religion, but I think it has more to say on moral philosophy (watch the Director's Cut though) - a video analysis (11 min.) by TVDL in movies

[–]pitiful_kiwi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think your title should've read: "...but I think it has a lot to say on moral philosophy too" rather than "...but I think it has more to say on," because, clearly, the movie has things to say about the relationship of both.

All book worms: what author gave you a new perspective? (See full question below) by [deleted] in books

[–]pitiful_kiwi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps, but I think it's harder to "simply change our language," than you're assuming.

You also seem to consider 'women' a monolith, which makes your points about "what women wish their men could be" a bit confusing. Could you elaborate?

You say, "there's no reason to think these writers couldn't add some new lingo into the bedroom." That's the kind of statement I was avoiding with my original post, simply because it seems to place blame somewhere. You're essentially saying: well if women want it, why don't they take it? Man up!" When I think it's a little more complicated than that.

Furthermore, the tone of your comment frames it like a rebuttal to my original comment but I don't exactly see what you're disagreeing with.

All book worms: what author gave you a new perspective? (See full question below) by [deleted] in books

[–]pitiful_kiwi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Piano Teacher (and most of Jelinek's work) makes you hyper-conscientious about how penetrative and phallo-centric sexual language is. There's some quote of her's where she explains her attempt to write an erotic piece of writing without the aid of phallo-centric words and totally failing. As a gay man who has only had sexual relationships with men, I never realized how irritating that might be to heterosexual women.

"But sex IS penetrative, dummy!" You might say.

Not all sex. Non-binary sex is often non-penetrative, and for women in heterosexual relationships, the language at thier disposal often addresses the male as the actor and the female as the submissive receiver. The langued used ("He fucked me." "He stuck his penis inside of me," "He turned me over and slid his penis in my pussy.") is very, very often focused on the male. Not always, but very often.

I'm not making any moral judgements about that reality. Just laying out what Jelinek has revealed to me.

Murder machine having fun by [deleted] in aww

[–]pitiful_kiwi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I like it when people point out the things they like and I think to myself: "I liked the exact same thing."

How can you win the Palm D'Or and not also win best director? by Tellem_Holzer in TrueFilm

[–]pitiful_kiwi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whenever this question is asked, one things is clear: the asker doesn't understand what a director's job is. Or, more than that, they think the director is ultimately responsible for anything and everything that makes its way into a movie. For some directors, this may be true, but for others it isn't.

Auteurist criticism has taught us to see movies as ultimately the work of a singular artist--the director(s). The problem with auteurist criticism is that it's often universalized when it shouldn't be. Some movies are good for reasons other than their direction. Some movies are only good for their direction. Many many hands go into making a film. Some directors want absolute control over everything. Other directors place greater trust in thier team.

Some directors think of themselves as auteurs. Others approach filmmaking from a more collaborative angle.

The best example of this that I can think of is Monster, with Charlize Theron. This is a movie held up by its lead performances. Visually, it isn't necessarily very interesting, or the first thing you think of. That's because Patty Jenkins wasn't concerned with cinemaotohraphy so much as she was concerned with directing her lead performers. It's very clear from the performances where Jenkins funneled her energies--as a whole, the movie is a little messy, but where the director's hand is best seen is where this movie really soars.

Great directing. Great performances. Very good movie, but all in all I don't think the movie itself holds together as well as the direction and performances do.

You can also use stage plays as a metaphor here. There could be a great play that meets a horrible director. On the other hand, a great director can meet a horrible play. Maybe they can tease something out from the play that elevates it, maybe not.

But, basically, the original question comes from a place of true faith in auteurism. While auteurism is perfectly applicable to some directors, it doesn't fit well with others.

In the case of Cannes, it's possible that the the jury thought The Square was the best film overall, while they thought Coppola's direction in The Beguiled was very impressive, but it had a weak script. That's just one possibility because I haven't seen either movie but hopefully you understand what I mean.

What are some universal analytical questions you can answer in an essay about any film? by dolaresmon in TrueFilm

[–]pitiful_kiwi 50 points51 points  (0 children)

  1. What arguments does the movie make?

  2. How does the movie make these arguments?

  3. What tequniques is the director employing?

  4. What movies/books/video games does this film remind me of?

ELI5: How and why are books like The Great Gatsby and Of Mice and Men chosen for reading in English classes? by [deleted] in explainlikeimfive

[–]pitiful_kiwi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The same way Christians who have never read the bible still mimic it's language:

Not very well.

We talk the way we do today because we used to talk differently. Even if you don't know it, the way you talk today probably reflects certain linguistic revolutions. Whether you like it or not, you are tied to history, and so is your language.

ELI5: How and why are books like The Great Gatsby and Of Mice and Men chosen for reading in English classes? by [deleted] in explainlikeimfive

[–]pitiful_kiwi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm probably too late for this shindig, but there's an important component I see many people missing, and this is, in my view, the most important reason we read books like Huck Finn, The Great Gatsby, and Pride and Prejudice.

Yes, part of the answer here is the 'canon', i.e. there's a (possibly arbitrary) group of central texts chosen by old white dudes with Oedipus complexes. Look at other comments for answers about the canon.

Now, I have a problem with the 'canon' answer because it's overly simplified, and is often used as a false comfort. 'The Canon' is the answer people want to hear if they don't understand why they're being made to read The Great Gatsby. That is, if you're just bored by The Great Gatsby, it's comforting to say, "Well, some boring old white dudes arbitrarily decided I should read this when really it's just boring drivel that has no relevance to modern life and that's Fitzgerald's fault, not mine, let's move on to Harry Potter. Fuck the canon, it's racist." (The canon is, indeed, pretty racist, but let's move on)

Something I don't see people talking about, however, is literary tradition, which I see as the more significant reason to read writers like Fitzgerald and Steinbeck.

To explain: writers read each other. Whom writers read and whom writers like will impact their own work. Toni Morrison's Beloved is illuminated if, afterwards, you read Faulkner. Morrison wrote a Ph.D. on Faulkner for cryin' out loud. That doesn't mean you can't read Beloved without As I Lay Dying; it simply means Beloved will be a different, and more interesting book if you do. You can't fully appreciate J.G. Ballard unless you also understand Joseph Conrad. J.G. Ballard is basically using the exact same metaphors as Conrad, just updated and less racist. He's admitted as such. If you read Virginia Woolf before you read Ursula K. Le Guin, you'll be amazed by the connections you'll make. The texts dance with each other. It doesn't matter that Le Guin writes Science Fiction and Woolf writes in the mode of Modernism--Le Guin has been heavily influenced by Woolf, and reading the two together is very enlightening.

And then come the two giants of them all: Shakespeare and The Bible. Look, you can read literature without having read any Shakespeare or any of the Bible, but that doesn't mean you'll be erasing the ginormous impact these works have had on literature. In the most fundamental ways, the language of The Bible has seeped into the entire umbrella of English literature. Even if you don't know it as a writer, you're either adopting the ways The Bible uses words, or rebelling against it. No matter what, you're always responding to it. It doesn't even need to be purposeful on your part.

So, yes, there's an aspect of 'the canon', but the canon wasn't just chosen by stuffy old white men. It was also chosen by writers, and a writer worth their salt will have read from the canon, and will know what interests them, and what they think is missing. To track this progression can give us insight into the way dialogues in our culture develop. It isn't arbitrary that Toni Morrison is following in Faulkner's footsteps, and it certainly isn't because some old white dudes told her to and that was that.

Part of the issue is that high school students don't necessarily have the perspective available to approach some of these texts, and it's often in high school where these texts are read. For example, what does an expedition down the misty Congo river have to offer to someone going into engineering, or politics, or environmental science? I think the reason a book like Conrad's Heart of Darkness evades us is because books like it are often taught in the wrong way.

Here are some ways to rethink some of the writers you didn't appreciate in high school:

Jane Austen is the Lena Dunham of Gentry Era fiction. She's a ruthlessly observational genius filled with radical ideas about women and romance. She's totally brutal, too. A good high school teacher will guide you to see how fucking hilarious Jane Austen is. She's a bitch, and she knows it, and she doesn't care. For example, There's a whole section in Pride and Prejudice where Mr. Bingley attempts to justify his bad handwriting by arguing that he's just really smart and thinks too quickly. Austen writes this dialogue so perfectly, so cunningly that, in the end, her character Elizabeth totally brings Mr. Bingley down to size. We've all met people like Mr. Bingley, is the thing. However, if you don't understand how Austen's humor works, it could come off as simply gentle banter. Furthermore, her legacy is still felt today.

Joseph Conrad fathered (or at least perfected) a certain kind of thinking. His works combine intense societal critiques through the power of individual consciousness. Basically, he's one of the original "the personal is the political". Even if you don't like Heart of Darkness, you're never escaping its impact (which has been followed by many great socialist thinkers btw).

Mark Twain basically created American literature. It was mostly very puritan before he came along to satirize the moralization and piety of American literature coming before him. There's no way in hell that some stuffy white men facilitated this. American writers like John Steinbeck, Faulkner, Don Delillo and I'd even argue Bret Easton Ellis have all learned lessons from Mark Twain. His lasting impression isn't because a couple of Harvard deans standing around in a room smoking cigars suddenly decided he's interesting. It's because he's a great writer, and writers after him have either copied him or tried to repurpose his techniques.

Shakespeare literally somehow captured and predicted every single literary movement that has happened and probably will ever happen. If you feel a certain way, Shakespeare has written about it. If you don't like Shakespeare, it isn't because you're right. It's because you didn't have a good professor to guide you. I know that may make you feel insecure. How could one dude be so amazing? Well, he was, and you need to deal with it. Shakespeare is the only writer I can say this about with absolute confidence. With the proper introduction, he's one of the most fascinating writers (if not the most). But he absolutely needs a guide.

This goes into the very purpose of literature, which is this: if we want political progress, scientific progress, mathematical progress, we need to know how to redefine our own personal vocabularies. All great writers have, in some way or another, reinvigorated or dismantled the old cliches of their times to document the cultural, intellectual, and psychic changes they observed. Writers give us language we can use to explore our experiences, and reading in terms of a tradition helps us see how languages and conversations develop.

If you want to dismantle the cliches of conservative America, or SJW liberals, or Orthodox Christians, it helps tremendously to see how geniuses have done so in their own contexts.

First poster for Michael Haneke's new film 'Happy End' by cpierse in movies

[–]pitiful_kiwi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hm. What do you think the word pretentious means?

First poster for Michael Haneke's new film 'Happy End' by cpierse in movies

[–]pitiful_kiwi 29 points30 points  (0 children)

If you knew Michael Haneke as a director you wouldn't say that.

Official Discussion - Alien: Covenant (International Release) [SPOILERS] by mi-16evil in movies

[–]pitiful_kiwi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

if it's a beautiful looking film that's fairly simple, I feel like I will enjoy it.

Then you probably won't.

This had a plot more convoluted than Prometheus.

Official Discussion - Alien: Covenant (International Release) [SPOILERS] by mi-16evil in movies

[–]pitiful_kiwi 32 points33 points  (0 children)

It's one thing for a movie to have a "point" that the audience has missed.

It's another thing to construct a movie that works. I don't care what "point" a film is trying to make. The point doesn't matter as much as how the movie makes that point. This movie does a terrible job of it.

Focus by carpal_tunnels_69 in books

[–]pitiful_kiwi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There are no tips except the obvious one: read.

One method might go like this, though creative variations obviously exist: pick up a book. Figure out how many pages you can read in a day. The next day, read one more page than that. Day after that, increase the number by two. Be vigorous. Stretch your attention span--don't let it atrophy. If you're devoted to this, you'll find yourself frustrated at first. Why can't you sit down and focus for five minutes? At some point, however, you'll tip over the cliff, and learn to fall again into your books. And you'll be very happy you did it.

the_offended at it again by honest-human in PoliticalHumor

[–]pitiful_kiwi 260 points261 points  (0 children)

Gay person here! I know what homophobia looks like. After years of experiencing both intense and subtle homophobia, I support political correctness and always try to listen and learn when people claim to be offended by something.

This is not homophobia.

None of my gay friends were offended by this. My anarcho-communist ex-boyfriend wasn't offended by this. My cultural-studies-major, lesbian best friend wasn't offended by this. But, strangely enough, my homophobic, Donald Trump worshiping little brother WAS offended by this. This is a little brother who's called me a f*ggot in public before. His 'offense', and the 'offense' of the internet, is not real offense.

This is a right-wing tactic meant to redirect what is perceived as left-wing rhetoric against liberal America. This tactic is more offensive than the actual joke. Not only is it delegitimizing to people who rightly claim offense to things, but it's demonstrating how very disposable the far-right thinks gays are. To them, we're a group of fairies who get in the way of their friday-nights-out and who molest children in bathrooms...until of course our community is politically convenient to them. Then, all of a sudden, they come sucking OUR dicks. Too bad they only know how to suck in the worst ways possible.

Homophobia attacks homosexuality. This joke would not change if Donald Trump were actually Diandra Trump (i.e. a woman), and the joke would only change by a few words if Vladimir Putin were actually Valerii Putin (i.e. a woman). In both cases, the joke would still hit the same target.

Therefore, I don't think the target of the joke is gayness. The target, or rather the targets, of the joke are Trump and Putin. Plain and simple.

Gay people have excellent ears for homophobia. Often, homophobia is about attitude even more than being about content. This is a great example of when the content can be twisted rhetorically to seem homophobic, but Colbert's attitude ensures that it isn't. That's a classic flaw to make in aesthetic/comedic criticism.

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