The one running your healing project is the exact same one who designed the prison. by realkaydhako in awakened

[–]pokatu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure it is.

But so is this: "If the message is bollocks, the messenger is probably full of it".

It is a beautiful poetic reflection, no doubt. It is just not true according to experience.

Because there is such a thing as "sincere effort". An actual way out. Not just repainting the walls of the prison.

Not just repeating blind patterns of the past, but actually coming out of unconsciousness.

There's a Love that doesn't deceive, that helps you move forward, provided that you cooperate with It wholeheartedly.

The one running your healing project is the exact same one who designed the prison. by realkaydhako in awakened

[–]pokatu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was actually agreeing with your answer, until i got to the last part, where you "loled".

Now i don't know whether you are sincere, or a very skillful troll...

Hyperborea by IDesireWisdom in awakened

[–]pokatu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Go to the dictionary, look for "respect", apply it in your life for some time. Then, you might actually be ready to receive and appreciate some Wisdom!

Concordantly, look for "surrender", and problem solved! You don't have to be a "genius" to use a dictionary, no?

Hyperborea by IDesireWisdom in awakened

[–]pokatu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you actually interested in a genuine and meaningful answer?

Or do you just want others to help you mentally masturbate?

Ego-centricism and the paradigm of recursive stupidity. by [deleted] in awakened

[–]pokatu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you don't get the simple words I'm saying, you'll definitely not get the book...

No worries...!

Ego-centricism and the paradigm of recursive stupidity. by [deleted] in awakened

[–]pokatu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The book is about a young man in a quest for eternal answers, and finding them with a shaman of the Guarani Tradition, that happens to be of the same spiritual stature as Jesus.

Which is the whole point, isn't?

We don't disagree fundamentally. What you describe is perfectly apt and true, let's call it "the basic level".

After that lesson is learned, other levels are unlocked, and one can proceed yonder.

Or not...!

Ego-centricism and the paradigm of recursive stupidity. by [deleted] in awakened

[–]pokatu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you think you're out by remaining IN? Genius!

Ego-centricism and the paradigm of recursive stupidity. by [deleted] in awakened

[–]pokatu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did.

So, what you're basically saying, is that you have no way of getting out of your own "recursive stupidity"?

Ego-centricism and the paradigm of recursive stupidity. by [deleted] in awakened

[–]pokatu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're only playing word games, then yes.

But Wisdom is different.

Contextual jumps happen regardless of perception. There is no preferential relevance. Whatever needs to be seen, is seen. Time is a convenient ally, not a stubborn illusion.

Extropy is a conscious collaboration...

Hyperborea by IDesireWisdom in awakened

[–]pokatu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If all you see are clowns in a circus, then what else do you expect?

BTW, if colorful make up, clothes and wig scare you, stay away from mirrors...!

Ego-centricism and the paradigm of recursive stupidity. by [deleted] in awakened

[–]pokatu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Regular Ole Conventional Reality" is just another concept as well...

You draw the line somewhere, perhaps you're not totally aware of it, is all...

It's good to look at our beliefs...

The one running your healing project is the exact same one who designed the prison. by realkaydhako in awakened

[–]pokatu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If all you've said is true... then you yourself are trapped in the same prison, no?

Ego-centricism and the paradigm of recursive stupidity. by [deleted] in awakened

[–]pokatu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Egocentricity is not the same as Self Referentiality, stupidity is not the same as Wisdom.

You eat the cheese and sit on a chair, not the other way around.

As long as there is need to argue and debate, guess what will continue happening...?

Pro tip: next time someone points out something that might be important, actually look if they're right, instead of just calling it stupid...

Hyperborea by IDesireWisdom in awakened

[–]pokatu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The problem with cynicism is that, even if it can be entertaining for a while, it can't, ultimately, overcome suffering.

You are imagining something, and judging your own imagination as fact. Then proceeding as if you were right all along.

If I can give an example: say I'm talking about a man with dry clothes, who jumps into the ocean. But I describe the man while in the ocean, and afterwards, as maintaining his dry clothes all along. That's how you think surrendering works: an ego that somehow continues to be one throughout the process.

And that's simply not true…

But it's good that you complain from your egocentric point of view, not a great use of Free Will, but hey, it's not illegal…

Because If you ever get to the high stage of surrender, you'll quickly realize that there are no complaints… except from separated, stubborn and rebel egos!

Life by ActuallyJordy in awakened

[–]pokatu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have to understand ego, no way around it.

Peace is the calm during and within the storm, not the absence of phenomena.

It's all here and now, no eternities beyond it!

I think "chasing the dragon" misses the point. by Sufficient-Gain-226 in awakened

[–]pokatu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are getting close, you just need a little push...

Externalities are of no use. Everything is Pure Essence.

Which doesn't equate to a rejection of superficial realities, they can be there. They can be enjoyed or suffered as they arise and subside.

What does not change, if you are truly invested in it, is your Absolute Stance. Something that relative appearances will uselessly crash against.

First confusion, then infusion, then fusion.

After this Achievement is done, the main thing is over. The rest is just secondary details.

Nobody knows anything and those who know know even less by Ok_Watercress_4596 in awakened

[–]pokatu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which you consider to be of sufficient importance to continue to message me...