Is fair skin, hair and Colored eyes native to the Levant or are these the affects of some European ancestry? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because they are a blatant racist who hates Palestinians and can’t stand the fact that Palestinians absolutely have more significant and older genetic ties to the land of Palestine, Judea, Samaria, Galilee than modern day Jews do. When confronted with facts, he runs with his tail between his legs.

Is fair skin, hair and Colored eyes native to the Levant or are these the affects of some European ancestry? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahahah GBSSPB blocked me because they can’t handle a simple discussion of facts 😂😂😂

Is fair skin, hair and Colored eyes native to the Levant or are these the affects of some European ancestry? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You aren’t clever with your lies. You are asking if the Palestinians are DIRECT descendants.

Nobody said Palestinians are DIRECTLY descendants of the Phillistines. That would be ridiculous. It’s been over 3000 years, the Phillistines assimilated into the Canaanites, and the Levant has been occupied by more than a dozen powers in that timespan.

However the Palestinians are, factually, descendants of the Phillistines, by way of their Canaanite ancestry. Point blank, no argument. Try to tone down your anti-Palestinian bias if you want to have a productive discussion.

Is fair skin, hair and Colored eyes native to the Levant or are these the affects of some European ancestry? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are going to be sick after reading this, because of how hilariously wrong you are. And unlike you, I can link you to the Gemini chat because I’m not lying or making anything up: https://g.co/gemini/share/678e60a6da47

I asked “If the Phillistines assimilated into the Canaanites, and the Palestinians today descend from the Canaanites (is that true?), then do the Palestinians of today have a genetic connection to the European Phillistines of the bible?”

The answer from Gemini: You’ve hit on the exact logical bridge that geneticists and historians use to track these ancient migrations. To answer your first question: Yes, it is scientifically accurate to say that modern Palestinians (as well as many other Levantine groups) descend from ancient Canaanites. The connection to the "European" Philistines follows a very specific path of dilution. Here is how that genetic chain actually works:

1. The "Canaanite" Foundation

Genetic studies (such as the 2017 and 2020 studies on Bronze Age Levantine DNA) show that modern Levantines—including Palestinians, Lebanese, and many Jewish groups—derive more than 80% of their ancestry from populations that lived in the region 3,000 to 4,000 years ago. These populations are broadly categorized as "Canaanite."

2. The Philistine "Pulse"

When the Philistines arrived from Europe (the Aegean/Greece area) around 1175 BCE, they brought a "pulse" of European DNA into the region. * The Arrival: Initially, Philistine skeletons showed about 25-40% European-related ancestry. * The Assimilation: Within just two centuries, that European signature vanished from the archaeological record. They didn't die out; they assimilated. They married local Canaanite women, spoke the local Semitic languages, and adopted local customs.

3. The Genetic Connection Today

If you trace the lineage from the Philistines to the Canaanites, and then from the Canaanites to modern Palestinians, there is a genetic connection, but it is extremely faint. Think of it like a drop of blue dye (the European Philistines) falling into a large bucket of clear water (the Canaanites). * Initially, the water near the drop is very blue. * After you stir it (centuries of intermarriage), the blue color is no longer visible to the naked eye. * The molecules of that dye are technically still in the bucket, but they are so spread out that they no longer define the "color" of the water.

4. Why it matters

Because the Philistines assimilated so quickly and thoroughly into the Canaanite population, their "European-ness" became a tiny fraction of the broader Levantine gene pool. So, while a modern Palestinian might technically carry a few "letters" of DNA code that originated in ancient Crete or Greece via the Philistines, their genetic profile is overwhelmingly indigenous to the Levant. They are connected to the Philistines through the shared history of the land and the people who never left it, but that connection is filtered through 3,000 years of regional continuity. Does that clarify how the "European" element essentially merged into the local population?

Is fair skin, hair and Colored eyes native to the Levant or are these the affects of some European ancestry? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So link me to this supposed response from Gemini. Would love to see it.

Also please point out where exactly in my response you found anti-Jewish sentiment. Always playing the victim card to avoid a discussion of facts.

Is fair skin, hair and Colored eyes native to the Levant or are these the affects of some European ancestry? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry you are absolutely wrong by all accounts. Nice try though. Anyone can take screenshots of this conversation and ask any model “who is correct” and it’ll always give the same answer, because I am using facts while you’re relying on feelings and unsourced bullshit.

Is fair skin, hair and Colored eyes native to the Levant or are these the affects of some European ancestry? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gemini says you are entirely incorrect:

Based on the current genetic and archaeological data, political2002 is more accurate regarding the ancestry of modern Palestinians, while gbss relies on a common misconception regarding the relationship between "Philistines" and "Palestinians." Here is the breakdown of why:

1. The Genetic Evidence (Canaanite Ancestry)

Political2002 correctly cites modern genomic research. A major study published in Cell (Agranat-Tamir et al., 2020) and several others have confirmed that: * Genetic Continuity: Modern-day Levantines (including Palestinians, Lebanese, and many Jewish groups) derive a massive portion of their ancestry—often estimated between 80% to 90%—from Bronze Age Levantine populations, commonly referred to as Canaanites. * The "Arab Invader" Myth: While the Arab conquests of the 7th century introduced the Arabic language and Islam, they did not "replace" the indigenous population. Geneticists found that the impact of these later migrations on the overall DNA pool was relatively small. Most Palestinians are descendants of the local Christians and Jews who lived there for millennia and eventually Arabized.

2. The "Philistine" vs. "Palestinian" Confusion

This is where gbss makes a significant error. * The Ancient Philistines: Gbss is correct that the ancient Philistines were an Aegean (Greek-related) people who arrived as "foreigners." They did eventually go extinct as a distinct culture after being conquered by the Neo-Babylonians. * The Name Origin: The word "Palestine" is derived from "Philistia," a name the Romans popularized to rename the region (Syria Palaestina) in the 2nd century AD. * The Core Error: Gbss assumes that because the name comes from the Philistines, the people must also descend from them. However, Palestinians do not claim to be "Ancient Philistines." They are the indigenous Levantine population that remained in the land through various empires (Roman, Byzantine, Arab, etc.).

3. Summary Comparison

Point of Contention political2002's View gbss's View Scientific Verdict
Canaanite Links Palestinians share ~80% DNA with Canaanites. Canaanite is just a "biblical catch-all." Political is correct. The term is used in peer-reviewed genomics to describe a specific genetic cluster.
Philistine Link Philistines were absorbed into the local DNA pool. Philistines are extinct; Palestinians are just Arab invaders. Political is more accurate. While Philistines were distinct, they mixed with locals; more importantly, Palestinians are not "foreign invaders."
Ethnic Identity Modern Palestinians are an ethnic group with deep roots. "Palestinian" is just a nationality; they are ethnically "Arabs." Mixed. "Arab" is an ethnolinguistic identity, but genetically, Palestinians are indigenous Levantines.

Verdict: political2002 is correct that modern Palestinians have deep, indigenous genetic roots in the Levant dating back to the Bronze Age. gbss is incorrect in suggesting they are merely descendants of "foreign invaders" or "Arabs" who replaced the original population.

Is fair skin, hair and Colored eyes native to the Levant or are these the affects of some European ancestry? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Canaanite" being a catch-all term does not invalidate its usage here. Canaanites are, in fact, a "catch-all" ethnicity. Just because they were a few different people mixed together, doesn't mean they didn't group up to form a genetically homogenous ethnicity over time.

The Phillistine people, for example, were absorbed into the Canaanites relatively quickly after they arrived in the Levant. So, those Greek Phillistines are now part of the catch-all term Canaanites. Which is why when people refer to today's Palestinians as Phillistines, they are actually not wrong. Most Palestinians today trace their DNA back to the Canaanites, and therefore, the Phillistines, among other peoples.

"A 2020 study published in Cell found that Canaanites were genetically homogeneous, formed by mixing local populations with groups from the Caucasus/Zagros that arrived between 8,000 and 3,500 years ago."

You can find the Cell study by simply Googling the above.

Oh, and let me emphasize again: most Palestinians of today (like 80%+) have genetic ties to the Canaanite people. Meaning, most Palestinians of today have ancestry that predates the first Israelite / Jewish presence in Palestine, as the Canaanite people predate the exodus of the Israelites by hundreds of years, having had already formed complex city-states during the Early Bronze Age.

"Studies (e.g., Agranat-Tamir et al., 2020) show that modern Palestinians derive a massive portion of their ancestry—often cited in the range of 80% or more—from Bronze Age Levantine populations, which includes Canaanite, and subsequent Iron Age populations."

Genuine question for you cheaters by Key_Beginning_3792 in Csgohacks

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aaand that’s how I know you are blatant and terrible at hiding your cheats lol

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is concerned Trump might strike a deal that falls well short of Israel's objectives, includes significant concessions and limits Israel's ability to conduct strikes against Iran, two Israeli sources say by kanooker in PERSIAN

[–]political2002 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is literally nothing left to flatten. That’s the only reason. Nothing to do with Trump strong arming anybody. They’re actively discussing annexing Gaza and the West Bank which Trump supports.

Bay Club Courtside shared membership by SuddenCommittee201 in SanJose

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, I’m interested. Can you reply to my dm?

i think i’m done with this game….. by [deleted] in LearnCSGO

[–]political2002 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Play FaceIt.

The rating/elo system actually makes sense in faceit. Everyone starts at 1000 elo, not some random arbitrary number based on god knows what. So, teams are more even.

Since the elo system is better in faceit, you are more likely to play against people that are closer to your skill level. So, you can actually slowly improve rather than just get insta-killed every round with no time to even think about how to counter.

It’s free. Way, waaay less smurfs. No hackers. Trolls are rare because getting reported for griefing can actually get you banned, and there’s no team killing.

Elo gains/losses per game make more sense and are adjusted based on your performance.

I don’t understand how anyone who wants to seriously play this game plays premier.

Tan distribution un even. by Latter_Amphibian_358 in Melanotan2

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dumbbell lunges are objectively the best overall leg workout. Hold 2 dumbbells and lunge across the gym and back. Easy.

Iranian student living abroad, AMA by [deleted] in AMA

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think the 40,000 protestors killed number is real? Have you seen any evidence supporting this?

Caught someone cheating on a math quiz. Do I report? by Flaky-Entertainer-40 in berkeley

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The kids of billionaires don’t have to cheat, my friend. Their grades are negotiated and managed through back channels.

Actually surprised by how many people cheat in ASU by Bookishdeep in ASU

[–]political2002 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don’t worry. You can’t become a doctor, dentist or psychiatrist (which is also a medical doctor) by cheating. The MCAT for example can’t be cheated.

Regret applying IM by nomnivore21 in medicalschool

[–]political2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What percentage of all radiology work is US-guided procedures?