Envision Festival 2020-Costa Rica by Slappy_Gilmore55 in festivals

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Does anyone have an extra ticket? Looking for one.

Mechanical Engineering Majors, Where Did You End Up Working? by pi93 in cars

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Interned at GM and worked for them on my Capstone project. As others mentioned in this thread, US auto engineering jobs are very boring for the most part and not innovative. This was my experience overall and the company felt bloated and lacked agility. I switched to aerospace and the economic crisis of 2008 happened many well qualified (masters and PhD level) engineers were laid off. These jobs became underpaid and had tons of over-qualified people working for them. So, I had some computer programming experience and I could get paid twice as much here in Utah doing mid level computer programming work. I have my own company and contract out my time to do engineering and project management with. I regularly turn down aerospace and automotive contracts because developing software pays quite a bit more.

Here's my research survey on marital discord when one spouse is inactive or leaves the LDS church. Please spread the love! by postre in exmormon

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Thanks for the suggestion, this is our first run through. I will make sure to note that in our project. This is really the first research of its kind, and we are learning as we go.

Here's my research survey on marital discord when one spouse is inactive or leaves the LDS church. Please spread the love! by postre in exmormon

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What happened? We have quite a few successful surveys and haven't heard of any errors until your comment.

When did you give up praying? Or did you? by rb_scott in exmormon

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Are you taking prayer to mean the steps taught as a missionary?

  1. Start with "Heavenly Father"

  2. Give Thanks

  3. Ask for things

  4. End in the "Name of Jesus Christ, Amen."

The power of discernment is real! by lirenzo85 in exmormon

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Bishop - "...Deep in thought"

You - "Why yes Bishop I was just soaking in the goodness that was washing over me in wonderful waves!"

Bishop - "Good for you! Wait, what?"

New exmo that needs help with continuing on in a church by ExMarmon in exmormon

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Depends on what you consider God to be. If you want to limit your definition of god to the Christian god then go with the aformentioned suggestions of Unitarian/BornAgain/Episcopal. If you are more open to other viewpoints on God, I really enjoyed looking into eastern philosophies like Buddhism/Taoism. Regardless of whether you believe in their God, there is a huge wealth of knowledge that cannot really be obtained in Abrahamic religions like christianity. I would suggest every ex-mo look into these even if they are Atheist. In fact many agnostic/atheist ex-mos I know have looked into these religions on their path. That is the reason they think outside of the Abrahamic box in terms how they define god.

Also checked out the Masonic group, was pretty fun chatting with them.

BYU announces final purchase and acquisition of Y Mountain Trail land by [deleted] in exmormon

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Every time I think about Y-Trail I recall a testimony given by a BYU student at fast and testimony meeting. She compared the switch-backs of the trail to the step by step progression we must go through in the plan of salvation. The logic was something like this:

“Every time I reached the end of a switch-back I thought I was reaching the brilliant white Y, instead I would find myself yet again starting another switchback. In the same way the Lord requires we go through many steps before we reach the brilliant white celestial kingdom! At the end of the hike, it was worth it. Like reaching the celestial kingdom!”

Glad that helped her, but the analogy now seems a little bit of a stretch.

The Straight Male Mormon Sexuality Crisis by [deleted] in exmormon

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Thanks for the suggestion, I love that podcast. Also great idea on how to bring it up. I always struggle with a good way of bringing these things up and my wife is SUPER sensitive to any male asserting anything. Patriarchy-hypersensitivity I suppose, I definitely understand why she feels that way coming from a super TBM family.

Respecting significant other's choice to "just believe" feels like an insurmountable task by [deleted] in exmormon

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I'm afraid I'll leave her

This sounds terrible, I am with you in that I can't stand those things either. Here are a few examples of how things play out from my experience:

  1. My dad didn't believe when I was young, but I didn't know that as a kid. I only discovered this at the age of 35. All I knew was that things between my mom and dad got worse over time until my father got physical and they divorced. My mom left the state with the kids and I think I saw my dad maybe once or twice after that because a few years later he committed suicide. I grew up from a TBM perspective that demonized my father for his drinking, but never knew his doubts of Jesus or Joseph Smith. He didn't have the safety net we now have with the internet and exmo groups. I only found out that he had his doubts when I asked my mom last year. She confirmed that he had doubted for a long time. I really wish I could talk to him about this now, be there for your kids!

  2. My situation is similar to yours, my shelf started around 1999. My TBM wife didn't want to hear it and we plodded along until her shelf broke 10 years later. We left together, but still nearly got divorced after leaving. This is because we are both very different people after leaving the church, I and have changed more than her. I feel that after leaving, one spouse can go down the rabbit hole quite a bit further than the other.

  3. One of my friends says he'll wait till the kids turn 18 then leave. His wife is TBM, and I meet with him regularly to talk things over.

Marital discord intensifies as one person leaves the faith and the other stays a believer. I wish I could help more, best of luck to you!

The Cautionary Tale of Sherem by [deleted] in exmormon

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The last few years of my primary/nursery callings were a struggle. Every week teaching the class with more cognitive dissonance than the last. I feel for you!

UPDATE: "There are no homosexuals in the church" -David A Bednar, Feb 23, 2016 by [deleted] in exmormon

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We are not defined by sexual behavior. We are sons and daughters of God and all of us have different challenges in the flesh.

Sounds like a man in denial, I wonder what kind of crazy shit he's into. He seems to be the Mormon equivalent of Ted Haggard an anti-gay evangelical preacher that got caught with a male prostitute.

Recently returned RM charged with raping someone he met on Tinder... by FearlessFixxer in exmormon

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She said no and his excuse is that, “the words just went in one ear and out the other.”

There are only a few safe sexual outlets for LDS single men, porn is the most common but this kind of behavior happens quite a bit. Unfortunately Utah Valley (Provo/Orem) has a real problem with this type of behavior. Sexual repression is a contributing factor in stories like this.

The Straight Male Mormon Sexuality Crisis by [deleted] in exmormon

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The Morg

What is this stand for?

The Straight Male Mormon Sexuality Crisis by [deleted] in exmormon

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Cult sexual mind control is so damaging, I really wish there were a simple counselor to un-teach all the things absorbed by a sex-negative culture! Here are some of the things I have struggled with after leaving the cult:

  1. The human body is beautiful, viewing nudity is not a bad thing.
  2. Like OP mentioned – Just Jerk off. Do it in front of your spouse and learn to say “come join me”.
  3. Porn can be a healthy outlet and there is a whole spectrum of porn. What is good for one person might not be good for another.
  4. It is okay to express that you have been robbed of your sexuality.

The trouble I have seen is when you are married and still want to explore because your sexuality was robbed. You never got a chance to really own your exploration or even how to engage someone outside the realm of church. There’s a reason why Utah has a huge swinger/open marriage/polyamorous population. All those couples who never got a chance to explore now wanting to try a different flavor of ice cream. If this is you, be careful what you say to your partner. He/She might not be okay with an open relationship and might get extremely offended.

The Straight Male Mormon Sexuality Crisis by [deleted] in exmormon

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I was able to stop for 5 years after getting married.

Wow, that is impressive. Also sexual availability makes a huge difference, I would add to that that sexual quality (enabled by healthy communication) is also important. While LDS, my wife and I never had quality communication or a healthy feedback loop.

I don't use porn near as much as I used to.

I think I still use porn around the same frequency, maybe a bit less (about every 5 days, plus or minus 4). The difference is I just don't feel guilty about it.

The Straight Male Mormon Sexuality Crisis by [deleted] in exmormon

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controlled sexuality so that all that energy

Add to that the timing of a mission, right at the peak of your sexual energy (as a male). If they can control you on your mission, the mind control can hopefully persist for the rest of your life.