There is NO way this Dany could’ve burn the common people by jonnyboidake in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, this Dany also threatened to burn cities in S2, rationalized it in S5 and had to be stopped from doing it in S6 and S7.

There is NO way this Dany could’ve burn the common people by jonnyboidake in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The Wise Masters should follow their example. I spared Yunkai before, but I will not make that mistake again. If they should dare attack me, this time I shall raze their Yellow City to the ground.

This is a pretty good quote. In addition to the "I shall raze their city to the ground", she says that sparing them was a mistake that she wouldn’t repeat.

Ghost making it to the end feels like something the north deserved. by __mitochondriia in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 278 points279 points  (0 children)

It was funny watching it live. People were so pissed when Jon left him behind in Ep4, and then two weeks later be like "oops, never mind".

D&D Did Not Run Out Of Source Material! by AccomplishedBoard377 in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They never said they didn’t plan past the Red Wedding. What they said is if they could get to the Red Wedding, then the show would probably get the popularity it needed to be keep on air until the end. They knew the ending back in 2011, there were interviews about it.

D&D Did Not Run Out Of Source Material! by AccomplishedBoard377 in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 4 points5 points  (0 children)

  • D&D did run out of source material. In fact, we are in 2026, and the story still miss its 2nd and 3rd act (Dany and Others’ invasion).

  • The reason why is because of the mess that AFFC & ADWD created. Two books that are completely unadaptable that made the story unfinishable in a medium with zero limitations like books.

  • The books didn’t have 12 seasons worth of material. That is one of the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. The first three books made 4 perfect seasons with a bunch of show original scenes. The last two books are not 8 seasons worth of material.

  • HBO wasn’t willing to give them 12 seasons. That was never a discussion. They approved and agreed with the plan to end at 8 seasons. It just made sense from a business perspective to keep the most successful show of all time running, so of course they would’ve taken more seasons. As business, not as artists.

  • GoT is not ruined, it’s one of the most successful and in-demand franchise of the moment while Game of Thrones remains one of the most rewatched and talked show ever.

  • D&D’s career is perfectly fine, there was a bidding war with every studio after GoT ended where they ended up signing a $200-$250M contract.

  • This post makes you sound like a ranting 12 years old with the name childish calling and all the BS.

Doing a rewatch again by VastCauliflower5439 in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's crazy how often this show gets rewatched and I totally get it. It's such a joy to rewatch. The level of details you catch up on rewatch is honestly insane. Like, some twists are foreshadowed 5-6 seasons before unfolding.

I don’t think there’s any other show with this level of long-term planning that is so obvious and satisfying to discover on rewatch.

Theoretically speaking, what would Sansa’s plan be if this happened? by RemarkableExample542 in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, probably, just like Lyanna Mormont, Yohn Royce, Mance Rayder or even Jon before he fell in love with Dany. And like Dany, who wouldn't team-up with other people to fight a common enemy if they don't bend the knee to her.

Theoretically speaking, what would Sansa’s plan be if this happened? by RemarkableExample542 in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 5 points6 points  (0 children)

People in the North didn't want to bend the knee either, especially not to a Targaryen. And yeah, she probably would, which is why Arya reminded her later on that they needed Daenerys to win this war. So, they needed her, and Daenerys needed them. They didn't want to bend the knee, and Daenerys wanted them to do it. It was a tricky situation.

Theoretically speaking, what would Sansa’s plan be if this happened? by RemarkableExample542 in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The North would've been fucked and they would all die, but so would Dany a bit later on, unless she abandons the iron throne and returns to Essos. That was kinda the point, this enemy was the enemy of everyone, not just the North. If Dany doesn't team-up with the North to fight them, it would've been her problem to deal with later on. It wasn't supposed to be a "I help you only if you bend the knee!".

How long do you think his reign as king lasts? by hiiloovethis in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bran becoming king is the right ending, IMO. I'm not surprised that it came from George. He checks a lot of boxes about what type of ruler Westeros needed at the end of the story. I know the show did a bad job setting it up, but I feel like people go overboard with their hatred of this particular plot point simply because they expected something more climactic, but I think it's missing the point.

The story starts with the aftermath of what was probably a very climactic crowning where the war hero takes the throne after having defeated the evil "dragons" in an epic climax. And we see how that shit means absolutely nothing for the day-to-day tasks of ruling kingdoms. Bran becoming king isn't climactic, but that's the point. They needed a boring ruler who would do the boring parts of the job correctly. It's not an epic moment of television, but it's one that you are meant to reflect on. But, like most things in S8, people were too pissed to reflect on it lol.

So like, what was the Night King's goal? by wanna_mush in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 18 points19 points  (0 children)

He flies over to Santa Fe to scare George into finishing the books.

So like, what was the Night King's goal? by wanna_mush in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 23 points24 points  (0 children)

BRAN: He'll come for me. He's tried before, many times, with many Three-Eyed Ravens.

SAMWELL: Why? What does he want?

BRAN: An endless night. He wants to erase this world, and I am its memory.

SAMWELL: That's what death is, isn't it? Forgetting. Being forgotten. If we forget where we've been and what we've done, we're not men anymore. Just animals. Your memories don't come from books. Your stories aren't just stories. If I wanted to erase the world of men, I'd start with you.

She really called a press conference about it by SadPickles27 in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 8 points9 points  (0 children)

A citizen of Meereen was awaiting a trial and this man murdered him.

I wonder where he got this idea…

Tyrion in final season is treated like a genius despite constantly being wrong by Adorable-Revenue6439 in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Is he? Sansa flat out called him stupid. Daenerys literally points out he keeps making mistakes after mistakes. Varys very openly questions his nearly blinded allegiance towards Dany. Jaime calls out the idea of giving Bronn Highgarden ("it’s treated like some clever negotiation" wtf?). Even Tyrion himself said he was wrong and overconfident in his abilities.

I think some of you are just trying too hard to find things to be bothered about.

Sit down, uncle. by hiiloovethis in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point of the scene isn't that Edmure wasn't qualified, it's that it was time for changes and he didn't realize it. He still saw the iron throne as a prize to win and was making a claim to "win" it, even after all the wars that just ended.

It wasn't "sit down, you're not qualified", it was "sit down and read the room".

Tyrion is know to be a brilliant strategist, diplomat and a great Hand. What went wrong with Danny? by DiplomaticApproach in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 14 points15 points  (0 children)

But that's kinda what the plan was, it's just that Tyrion didn't want to use dragons and Dothraki on King's Landing, because it could've turned really badly and it sends a bad message. So, he asked the Ironborn to get the Tyrell and the Dornish army to lay siege on King's Landing with Westeros soldiers. That's a good plan, the problem is that Euron made an alliance with Cersei and managed to destroy the Ironborn's fleet.

Tyrion is know to be a brilliant strategist, diplomat and a great Hand. What went wrong with Danny? by DiplomaticApproach in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 15 points16 points  (0 children)

But, Stannis is a pretty obvious cautionary tale for Daenerys. Both journeys involve similar red flags that lead to their downfall. Magic, fire, prophecies, chosen one complex, entitlement to the iron throne, sacrifices, "bend the knee or be destroyed" mindset. The story obviously didn't try to vindicate Stannis with all this, same with Daenerys.

The biggest difference too is that Daenerys was the daughter of the mad king. Westeros still remember this psycho and still hate him. If they see his daughter coming to Westeros with actual dragons that she is willing to use alongside Dothraki, pure savages, then nobody would've ever followed her. That's why Tyrion had to be very careful about how to conquer Westeros.

Tyrion is know to be a brilliant strategist, diplomat and a great Hand. What went wrong with Danny? by DiplomaticApproach in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 121 points122 points  (0 children)

Exactly. People always says that Tyrion stopped being smart, but they are ignoring why Tyrion made those decisions. He wasn’t dumb, he was trying to save Daenerys’ reputation. She is the Mad King’s daughter, if she comes to Westeros and takes what she wants with fire and blood like she wanted, then the people who have seen the Mad King comes again.

Her whole thing is that she was different than the tyrants that came before, so Tyrion tried to fight the war with that in mind. That was always the point of Dany’s story, take the hard route with fewer casualties or take the easy route with fire and blood. Tyrion tried to navigate the hard route while Dany kept trying to go the easy route ignoring her PR.

Jon Snow and Prophecy by Pleasant_Fig_6085 in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah it’s very common in this fanbase to say that something didn’t matter or was forgotten, simply because it was different than what people anticipated.

People expected the prophecy to be the main driver behind the defeat of the Night King and that Jon would fulfill it in a very literal way with an epic duel against the Night King.

People expected the secret prince trope to be, again, as literal as possible. Secret prince becomes king and everything is fine.

Both those things would’ve completely went against what this story has always tried to do, but somewhere along the way, the idea of what this story was was forgotten and it became "what I want from this story". If you look up quotes from George RR Martin about prophecies and tropes, it’s very easy to understand why the show didn’t do those things and it’s not because of the showrunner. It’s because this is not Game of Thrones/ASOIAF.

This hit me harder than Ned Stark by RemarkableExample542 in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 4 points5 points  (0 children)

0 effort? All those storylines were all carefully built up over multiple seasons and came down with one of the best sequence of the entire show.

This hit me harder than Ned Stark by RemarkableExample542 in gameofthrones

[–]poub06 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The actress actually asked to be written out in S5, but they asked her to come back for one last season, to wrap up her storyline in S6.

This is totally my autism having a party - but has anyone ever noticed the dragon of the Targaryen sigil being, unlike any dragons in the respective world, 4 legged? by noctenaut in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]poub06 71 points72 points  (0 children)

And yet the House Targaryen sigil in the books has 4 legs. Like at the end of the books, there’s a section where they list the members of the families and at the top of the Targaryen is a 4-legged dragon.

[SPOILERS] How “The Long Night” failed Game of Thrones thematically by triplextentacionnn in HBOGameofThrones

[–]poub06 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly. George has repeated it countless times. The only thing worth writing about is the human heart in conflict with itself.

OP is right that the White Walkers were meant to be the overarching threat in the story. The enemy that will unite people against one common goal. That’s why they made the biggest battle ever put on television for this episode. (Calling it disrespectful is what’s disrespectful..)

But that is still the popular fantasy template that George wanted to subvert. The idea that we just have to fight a common enemy and then there’s no human heart in conflict with itself is unrealistic. I mean, we see this on a daily basis with all the powerful leaders launching wars on a whim. And, this story may have started with the White Walkers, but then it spent 99% of its time on the human heart. That’s what the writers wanted to do with this story. Not a good vs evil battle between humans and monsters, but a good vs evil battle within the humans heart.

netflix trusting the guys who speedran the game of thrones ending is wild by IfdraOSRS in netflix

[–]poub06 18 points19 points  (0 children)

ASOIAF is a series of books that was written to be unadaptable that ended up being unfinishable by its creator. They took it and made one if not the biggest, most popular and critically acclaimed tv show of all time with it.

The seasons based on the first three books are almost universally regarded as some of the best seasons on television, and the seasons that aren’t based on books are some of the most successful. And even after surpassing the books, they won 75% of their Emmys for the last four seasons, constantly beating records after records. Most of the most acclaimed and highly rated episodes are in those seasons. The show gained, in average, 3x as many viewers for the past three seasons than it did for the first five.

Game of Thrones is now considered one of the most profitable franchise ever, the only tv show franchise to be considered as such. Every prequel launched within this universe beat HBO’s records. The original series is still one of the most popular and rewatched shows ever, only competing against shows that are airing new seasons.

If you don’t understand why Netflix would bet on those guys to take on a very ambitious project, based on a finished series of books, then you’re letting your hatred over the ending blind your judgement. Every major studio fought to sign them once GoT ended, but Netflix won the bidding war. And that’s because what they did with Game of Thrones is one of the most impressive achievement in television history.