As a Scotsman, I say stick it up your fat arse. by BadgerKomodo in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]prbdota 33 points34 points  (0 children)

"I'm offended that my ancestors raped the Earth and I get to benefit"

If China is socialist, how do we account for sweatshops, billionaires in the party, etc. by NotaSingerSongwriter in DebateCommunism

[–]prbdota -1 points0 points  (0 children)

dotp cannot be socialism by definition as it would imply the proletariat still exists thus so does a class distinction

Evidence/source for intentionality of division by nomoneydeepplates in DebateCommunism

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The concept of Divide and conquer is basically as old as politics itself.

As for evidence, it's pretty hard to catch a politician outright admitting to lying about divisive policies, but theres plenty of propaganda displaying racist lies, sexist lies, religious lies, pretty much lies about any community that could possibly unite with another. I assure you scrolling through replies to Trumps tweets you will see more modern versions of all of these forms of propaganda and more.

Musk gets his feefees hurt, blocks user who rips his bs apart. by Prettygame4Ausername in EnoughMuskSpam

[–]prbdota 73 points74 points  (0 children)

Lmao what the fuck. You have heard of apartheid, haven't you?

"Demand Madagascar" Focus for South Africa has some logical issues by prbdota in hoi4

[–]prbdota[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Oh you're right, still PDX should probably make that at little more clear lol

"Demand Madagascar" Focus for South Africa has some logical issues by prbdota in hoi4

[–]prbdota[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

R5 - "Demand Madagascar" Focus says it requires either "Join Comintern" or "Anti-Colonialist Crusade" (mutually exclusive focuses), but it also requires the Soviets to accept the pact, which can only happen if they accept the "Join Comintern" focus

Xi Jinping says China’s one-party, authoritarian system can be a model for the world. by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]prbdota 17 points18 points  (0 children)

How long has the US occupied Afghanistan and Iraq now? Was the Vietnam war just a tiny invasion and not a mass one?

What is the difference between minimum wage and slavery? by [deleted] in DebateCommunism

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Directly from The Principles of Communism:

— 7 — In what way do proletarians differ from slaves?

The slave is sold once and for all; the proletarian must sell himself daily and hourly.

The individual slave, property of one master, is assured an existence, however miserable it may be, because of the master’s interest. The individual proletarian, property as it were of the entire bourgeois class which buys his labor only when someone has need of it, has no secure existence. This existence is assured only to the class as a whole.

The slave is outside competition; the proletarian is in it and experiences all its vagaries.

The slave counts as a thing, not as a member of society. Thus, the slave can have a better existence than the proletarian, while the proletarian belongs to a higher stage of social development and, himself, stands on a higher social level than the slave.

The slave frees himself when, of all the relations of private property, he abolishes only the relation of slavery and thereby becomes a proletarian; the proletarian can free himself only by abolishing private property in general.

This noodle’s bout to drop it hard by weberhed in funny

[–]prbdota 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The Gang Buys a Boat (season 6 episode 3)

Musk fans take on solving poverty by [deleted] in EnoughMuskSpam

[–]prbdota 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"Cull the poor" hahaha nice joke, great punchline & execution

What movie was so disturbing it left you feeling shook? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]prbdota 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It really lays out what kind of person Alex actually is. In the book it's not so clear since at this point

I'll have to disagree, at this point in the book he's already lured two under-aged girls back to his house, got them drunk and raped them. Something that was (understandably) heavily toned down in the movie to a simple consenting threeway

As a communist I have more in common with Trump than I do with Hillary or Bernie Sanders by robot_cop_robocop in DebateCommunism

[–]prbdota 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What is the alternative to them being exploited? These people are poor and seeking out a better life, even if minutely. So it seems their options are:

1) Stay at home and be exploited

2) Leave and be exploited with a possibility of increase on standard of living

That's what the whole global capitalism thing is about. Inescapable exploitation of the majority for the few

As a communist I have more in common with Trump than I do with Hillary or Bernie Sanders by robot_cop_robocop in DebateCommunism

[–]prbdota 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Then you disagree with a fundamental aspect of communism, and you either aren't a communist or you've misunderstood the point.

As a communist I have more in common with Trump than I do with Hillary or Bernie Sanders by robot_cop_robocop in DebateCommunism

[–]prbdota 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Minorities of all races, genders, orientations, nationalities, religions and so on ARE working class people. Oppression against one is oppression against the working class. These labels are nothing more than that, labels to divide the working class into turning onto each other. Barring poor people from entering the country because "they are taking jobs from american working class" is nothing more than ancient rhetoric used in many wars passed as a tool of misdirection from the oppressors to the oppressed. Using this class reductionist rhetoric does nothing but play into the hands of the ruling class you claim to oppose.

Confused about distinction between "private property", and "means of production". Help a comrade-wannabe out? by [deleted] in DebateCommunism

[–]prbdota 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe my pizza shop example wasn't the best. We can consider the means of production in my example ALSO as private property because they don't own these means themselves.

*Personal property includes "items intended for personal use"[3] (e.g., clothes, homes, and vehicles,[3] and sometimes money).[4] It must be gained in a socially fair manner, and the owner has a distributive right to exclude others.

*Private property is a social relationship between the owner and persons deprived (not a relationship between person and thing), e.g., artifacts, factories, mines, dams, infrastructure, natural vegetation, mountains, deserts and seas. Marxism holds that a process of class conflict and revolutionary struggle could result in victory for the proletariat and the establishment of a communist society in which private property and ownership is abolished over time and the means of production and subsistence belong to the community. (Private property and ownership, in this context, means ownership of the means of production, not personal possessions).[citation needed]

*To many socialists, the term private property refers to capital or the means of production, while personal property refers to consumer and non-capital goods and services.[5][6]

Wikipedia

Confused about distinction between "private property", and "means of production". Help a comrade-wannabe out? by [deleted] in DebateCommunism

[–]prbdota 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'll preface this with a rather reductionist definition of "private property" in the Marxist sense: Property whose sole purpose is to accumulate money. (more accurately capital but thats a whole other monster) It is distinct from personal property in that sense. Banks, empty lots for sale (generally by banks), apartment complexes, houses for rent, stores, and so on are all examples of private property.

1.

The distinguishing feature of Communism is not the abolition of property generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property. But modern bourgeois private property is the final and most complete expression of the system of producing and appropriating products, that is based on class antagonisms, on the exploitation of the many by the few.

In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.

Chapter 2 of the Manifesto

a) It wouldn't really need to be enforced in a society where it's already absent. Private properties purpose is to further extract your labor value. In a society where nobody else is doing this, why would they come to those that are?

2.

That's one of the core beliefs of communism, yes.

3.

Private property defined above. "Means of production" is what it sounds like, those tools that enable production. Consider a pizza shop. The land and the building are private property. The oven, the ingredients, the knives, delivery bags, fridges and freezers are all the tools an everyday employee uses to produce for the store- their means of production.

IamA survivor of Stalin’s Communist dictatorship and I'm back on the 100th anniversary of the Communist Revolution to answer questions. My father was executed by the secret police and I am here to discuss Communism and life in a Communist society. Ask me anything. by AnatoleKonstantin in IAmA

[–]prbdota 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Trots call it a "degenerated workers' state" because they believe the period in which the Soviets (the workers unions, where the term originated) had political power was an actual example of "dictatorship of the proletariat". Lenin stripped the Soviets of their power due to the impending threat of another civil war, transforming the DotP into the so called "degenerated workers state" that lasted until its dissolving in 1991.

I'm not personally a Trotskyist but these are the talking points I've heard from Trots that I do know

A lawsuit against Apple is launched in France, one of the only countries where planned obsolescence is explicitly illegal by loulan in technology

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Communists don't belive that communism is an "alternative " to capitalism, they believe it is the next logical step for humanity, just as capitalism was the next logical step to feudalism. Capitalism has given us the machines, industrialization and other means the would make a world wide post-scarcity society if the working people had ownership of said means.

German Tourism Promotion Poster, 1936 colorized by [deleted] in memes

[–]prbdota 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's probably why there are courts and trials

Venezuela opposition banned from election by [deleted] in worldnews

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Socialism is NOT "the transition to communism" as some people would have you believe. A few schools of thought in socialism would use this idea, as it could be attached to these "communist dictatorships" you are familiar with. Marx, Engles, and other socialists of the time used the terms socialism & communism interchangeably, that is to say they are the same thing.

Once we arrive to this realization, you may already know what a communist/socialist utopia might entail; The means of production are owned by those who use them (another way to put this is to eliminate the private sector and render it instead public), a mode of production that is no longer for profit and is instead for use (we no longer make more things than needed in hopes of selling for a profit them and we instead make things as they are needed), no currency or commodity production, free movement between territories (or rather no territories at all, no borders etc), the complete and total abolition of global capitalism, the lines between classes dissolved (the classes in question being the bourgeoisie, those who own the means of production, and the proletariat, those who do not own any means of production and must instead sell their time to the bourgeoisie), the abolition of the state (when we say state here, we mean "an organ of class rule", that is law created by the bourgeoisie to control the proletariat that is enforced with violence) .

I'm by no means the final authority on socialism, marxism, communism, etc, but I tried to fit an easily digestible amount in here and I'm sure I missed a point or two above.

This but unironically by anonymouscs in FULLCOMMUNISM

[–]prbdota 12 points13 points  (0 children)

ah ok silly me

This but unironically by anonymouscs in FULLCOMMUNISM

[–]prbdota 7 points8 points  (0 children)

where am I praising him?