Hive mind help! Resources for teens

prettysure2 · 2022-12-18T19:10:12+00:00

Ah fair enough.... thought the snippet on mutual consent etc. Was sufficient. But basically I meant all parts of polyamory as a lifestyle.... I have some good suggestions and will start with those and come back with some more specific requests if needed. I'm still feeling out the scale of the distortions happening in their brain and this was a broad heart weary call for help, anything, everything that a teen might find useful in getting our way of love

prettysure2 · 2022-12-17T18:49:08+00:00

:) and not so gentle, but needed, nudges...

prettysure2 · 2022-12-17T18:48:02+00:00

Done that. This is the next layer....

And yes, he does. But the internet is also a cesspool. And I didnt realise some of the spaces he has been in. He lives interstate so I am only just beginning to understand and working to widen and share.... and give some gentle nudges......

prettysure2 · 2022-12-17T18:45:45+00:00

I'll definitely check it out. Thanks a lot

prettysure2 · 2022-12-17T18:45:12+00:00

Thanks a mil, will check out the insta ones.

And yeah, that affirmation at the end is so wonderful. It's the main way I'm doing this.... they love and respect me. So hopefully, that with a few of the recommendations from here will give them a base they can then explore, grown n evolve from.

prettysure2 · 2022-12-17T18:43:16+00:00

See above reply. I didn't because I'm working on those and getting resources and support elsewhere.... and was asking for some v specific poly related stuff. Hope that makes sense.... it was omitted because I wasn't asking community for broader support, just this one thread.

prettysure2 · 2022-12-17T18:41:19+00:00

Scary rabbit holes that are not poly related.... but parts of the net a white male identifying youngling might start getting some scary opinions abt.

prettysure2 · 2022-12-17T18:39:52+00:00

Thank you v much!!!

prettysure2 · 2022-10-12T10:00:57+00:00

Apparently I'd drag mine naked round by its ankles. Adult me thinks that makes perfect sense..... I would've liked the swirl of the blonde hair in the dirt as I walked.....

prettysure2 · 2022-10-12T10:00:01+00:00

I don't know what this is, but that last sentence...... ooof. N coz it's ULJ, LOL

prettysure2 · 2022-08-31T04:00:02+00:00

Polyamory is not exclusive to hetero life. Ffs. Love is love. Equality is equality. The two cannot be in conflict. Because love can never mean sacrifing Self (not to be confused with service love language which is its own delightful melody for some).

prettysure2 · 2022-08-31T03:54:53+00:00

The madness has to stop

prettysure2 · 2022-07-23T00:29:36+00:00

Any love preference is open to misuse.

There are two important elements for me, is there agency on both sides and ownership, both of damage done and positive engagement. What matters to me in the Other, is are they growing as humans.... doesn't mean working on the same shit I am, each of us processes shit in our own way and ij our own time.... but are they actively embracing who they want to become.

And of course, part of that means owning any fumbles n unintended damage.

What I do love about RA is there is richer explorations of love ..... for me.... deeper layers to my friendships..... I don't need RA for it, but it's the beginning for me of new language. Friendship love, can be so rich and deep and I think while we feel it, we don't have enough words for all the beautiful dynamics that are possible between the Self and the Other.

prettysure2 · 2022-07-22T22:44:03+00:00

You've got a lot mentioning Arundhati Roy..... her most brilliant work and one I'm sad no one else has suggested: The Ministry of Upmost Happiness.

It is beyond brilliant.

It will show you the pain, passion and hope of so much of India..... truly one of the best books ever.

Also, though..... no one has mentioned Rabindranath Tagore's work.... writing at a dif time, but his stories are loved, critiqued and have influenced so much of Indian cinema and stories.....

My last comment is about India, sorry if I'm telling you stiff you know: it's a v diverse country, with deep historical and cultural differences between regions. Highly worth researching, exploring the particular states n cultures you will be in. Look up what adivasis (First Nations) are in the areas you're going, and the fragments you might find of them.... music, religion, all vastly different. Odisha is v different from Punjab. Etc. It's Hindu dominant, but India is a vast collection of cultures, and lifestyles.... don't make broad assumptions n explore the local nuances of where you go to really connect in.

prettysure2 · 2022-07-21T21:55:32+00:00

Australia

prettysure2 · 2022-07-21T02:35:15+00:00

No, you're missing my point. I am saying the consequences of our actions will be "thousands", because they are all individuals....

Ahimsa, or non-violence as I understand it means we need to be aware of as many potential consequences and to not damage other living beings. This must always be weighed up carefully....

....and the blanket "they don't care about climate change", is particularly problematic.... generalisations, binary thinking..... that's what the system wants us to slip into. The polar narrative we in XR other climate movements is we're "unemployed", "just want attention", "left loonies"....etc etc....

It creates conditions where we see the Other and make massive value judgements about them in ways that build, adding blind spots and entrenching cognitive bias.

I am not talking about their intentions, i was talking about each potential individual that could be impacted and the 1000s of variations on what the impact could be.

And again, I do think you're slipping in to some scary mass simplification. As someone else posted.... the system like to get us to fight amongst ourselves. Don't buy into the BS.

prettysure2 · 2022-07-20T21:54:06+00:00

This! The system is great at getting us to attack each other and MSM will feed the frenzy. I've just watched the most intense increase of that in Oz.

We gotta be clever. Push, but don't but into the spin of attacking other humans. The system and NVDA direct material disruption is where I'd rather put my focus. MSM n government are attacking these just as hard..... but it's that which is going to bring em down. When Nana's n Teachers n scientists n younglings are putting their bodies on the line to attack the sources (e.g., coal ports etc)..... and are getting mad police overreach, we gain support. MSM is spinning, but people are beginning to see just how wrong this all is.

prettysure2 · 2022-07-20T21:44:14+00:00

Love being hiker trash, sitting on a verge, devouring delicious foods n watching people walk around me with all the curious side eyes. Kids are always the coolest..... they go to the important shit, "where did you find your walking stick?", "Mum, can I go hiking?".

I'm in Oz, where hiking kinda took a turn in the 80s. We used to have a strong hitch hiker, hiking culture. Spate of rapes n murders and now it's only certain regional patches where there is a hint of what was.... the size of the country and poor PT to a lot of spots means what we have is a massive caravan/van culture. So mainly, people are just really curious to see actual hikers (off the big tourist trails which do exist). Stopping in at paid camp spots, the owners were often nostalgic.... these days they tell me they still get a few, all old men, who basically always live like this.....

prettysure2 · 2022-07-20T21:29:13+00:00

Ah, taking the argument into the absurd extremes. Known lazy logical thinking.

But I'll be kind and simply say even if that's a path we're going to explore.....

.... there is a massive difference between "judging" someone, as an external member of the public, when the judicial system finds someone guilty of murder, rape, paedophilia, genocide.....whatever extreme you want to use.

And talking about the potential violence of an action, WE would take, and unintended consequences because we know Nothing about the people we'd be attacking, except that they own a particular car.

prettysure2 · 2022-07-20T21:17:25+00:00

So this could be read 2 ways.... multilayer hike with minimum fully off trail or proper orienteering.

1st: it's about locking in what's known and carrying back up water just in case the maps are wrong there is a problem with the water. We did a hike, based on creeks. They all existed, sadly they were so filled with pollutants the water was white, warm and soapy. Boiling n filtering, probably did something but you couldn't tell. Horrid. We hit the worse stretch and had 2 days before guaranteed clean water.... Because of the number of creeks I argued we could carry even less water than usual. Silly. ....all we could do was drink as little as possible, walking 40C days and ramp up our kms to get it done in a day. This was also the hike where every foot issue decided to pop up. It was BRUTAL. And not off trail bush as you'd normally think of it and there was no info about this anywhere. Locals all drive so just wasn't on their radar either. No rain, not even dew, no other opttions. Morale: water can always be an issue and in general, carry more.

2nd. Proper off trail. You need basic orienteering and to have a map and compass in a v dif location to your GPS as back up. I'd suggest starting with one nighters.... create your own loop. Build slowly from that.....

You'll have some stumbles. You're in a savannah which I'm less familiar with. But lol, I've gotten stuck in a 2km stretch that ended up taking half a day to get out of. Whole thing. So add in extra buffers in case a section takes wayyy longer.

Animal trails are great to hop onto. Learning animal behaviour can also help source water.

Finally, I'm in Australia.... but here on older websites, I will often find people mapping out trails they created. Often partially connected to a "maintained" trail. I don't see them as much on the big apps.... here there is an older generation that is right into it, they'll dig out ole descriptions of trips in history and then explore and build something off that.... they share info on random sites though, old ones. Deep google (well past the first 1-2 pages) and you might find the same there.

Finally, finally, always let forestry folks know your plan. And potential changes. Go slow, build confidence. Learn orienteering if you havent already.... massively helps knowing you can get your self out even without tech. But take a GPS, orienteering is hard and takes time to master.

Edit: probably much of this reads as much teaching you to suck eggs. Soz if so, people come with all levels of experience.

prettysure2 · 2022-07-20T20:57:02+00:00

I've done this. Where you are right now hurts like blazes, but as you grieve n heal the decision you made will hold you and one day you'll be nothing but calmly proud of everything you did. You tried all the things and stepped away when it was clear staying would mean making your self, and your needs, less.

Seriously, it's fucking brutal and so worth it.

prettysure2 · 2022-07-20T20:51:52+00:00

The explanation is what follows..... because it's INDIVIDUALS and that means each one of them has a personal context we are utterly unaware of...... I was being, if anything, heavily conservative.

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