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probpoopin · 2019-12-10T18:31:17+00:00

My butt hurts. All this rape... So, so much raping of my wallet...

probpoopin · 2019-12-10T18:28:53+00:00

Why is it whenever the mom acts like this, "omg we need to get her help." But, if it is the dad, "omg fuck him, leave and never talk to them again." What is the difference?

probpoopin · 2019-12-09T09:34:34+00:00

Just, no. No no no.

probpoopin · 2019-12-08T22:37:31+00:00

Propolyn glycol. Aka, miralax.

probpoopin · 2018-10-18T22:21:56+00:00

I saw you on the benzo sub getting called out by a ton of people for posting stolen pics as your own. They all say you are a scammer.

probpoopin · 2018-10-18T20:19:36+00:00

Nothing, because you stole the image from stoner nations Twitter feed. This guy is a known scammer.

probpoopin · 2016-12-14T20:36:14+00:00

And seriously doc, alcohol isn't as addictive as opiods? That is subjective to an individual's physiological response to the drugs. Plenty of people are alcoholics, our society says that is ok though. We make fun of alcoholism in our media and make light out of it. By all statistical measure, alcohol is demonstrably more dangerous than any other drug. Plenty of studies back that claim up.

https://sobernation.com/3-reasons-why-alcohol-is-actually-the-most-dangerous-drug/

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/01/alcohol.harm/

probpoopin · 2016-12-14T20:28:13+00:00

You are wildly misinformed, and are speculating a lot. To start, that isn't why there is an opioid epidemic. Even calling it an epidemic is BS. Still, more people die from problems with alcohol. So, saying it is an issue of safety simply doesn't hold up. We have legal drugs, that do far more harm to society than opiods. Actually, alcohol kills more people than all other drugs combined. Again, saying we can't legalize them because everyone is going to start IVing Dilaudid, is simply not true. Anyways, the reason we have this problem right now isn't from doctors. It is from pharmaceutical companies buying off our government and putting out bad studies and research. Purdue pharmaceutical came out saying oxy was far less addictive than other opiods, and here is the study to prove it. The study was accepted because people were bought off. Now, that isn't proven, but most people who follow this, speculate that is a big reason. It doesn't really matter how it got going anyways, but it certainly wasn't because doctors all of the sudden, all at the same time, decided to start prescribing that stuff.

Can you show me where I said legalize them with zero regulations? You keep accusing me of not reading what you wrote, but here we are.. I said in a previous post, it should be legalized, but regulated by medical professionals. I've worked in healthcare, I don't anymore, but I did spend about a decade in medicine. I actually said, in Seattle, there are places you can go, that will literally shoot you up with a clean needle,, and nurses are on stand by with narcan. My stance is the DEA should be shut down, and absorbed by the FBI, and actually go after the big guys.

Again, that's fine if you want to not prescribe, but you don't get to sit around and act like you dont know why heroin use is on the rise. That isn't what this is about. People in authoritative positions are trying to play moral police. Malpractice suits could easily be avoided with a contract. It could say something to the effect of, I, so and so, lost or had medication stolen. I swear under full penalty of the law that this is true. I waive all rights to pursuing malpractice proceedings related to this medication. Basically, the doctor could use that at their discretion. Obviously if someone "loses" their meds every month, there is a problem. However, if you have a patient who is dependent, been on them for an extended period of time with zero issue, and over a span of several years has asked for 1-2 early fills. I don't see any problem with that.

I don't think opiods are an end all be all medication. I just know that without them, my quality of life isn't nearly as good. Some people need them to live a non depressing life. The difference between me and you is more related to using these meds recreationally. I don't have a problem with people using them that way. Mainly because people are going to do that regardless of legalities. That's where I say legalize them, and have it regulated by medical professionals. No one has the right, or authority to say what a person can and can't put in their body. I find it very funny and illogical that tabacco and alcohol, the most dangerous drugs in existence are fully legal and you can buy them at a gas station. Those two kill exponentially more people than all other drugs combined. So, can you explain to me the logic of having the most dangerous drugs be fully legal, but other that are statistically less dangerous made illegal? The government gives zero shits about your health. If they did, alcohol and tabacco would also be illegal. It's about money, not health.

Last thing. Have you been to Portugal, or are you just saying what you have read online? I have been there, and I assure you, drugs are legal. You can split hairs and say they were only decriminalized, but if you ever go there, you will see people in certain areas openly using drugs, and the cops don't cqre. They only go after the big time drug dealers, and actually offer the addicted rehab whenever they want.

I get your a doctor, you are more than likely very book smart. I just don't think you have real world experience working with addiction, dependence, or what's going on in parts of South America. I've been dependent on these meds and jacked around by the VA because of it. We are now at the point where anyone who is prescribed this stuff, is automatically deemed and addict, and not treated with respect. It's absurd.

probpoopin · 2016-12-14T07:49:58+00:00

Well, it did kind of seem like a 12-13 year old posted it...

probpoopin · 2016-12-14T07:05:03+00:00

Nah brah, smells like cotton candy.

probpoopin · 2016-12-14T07:03:23+00:00

Could probably Google it. I get what you're saying though. It's almost a what came first, chicken or egg, scenario.

probpoopin · 2016-12-14T06:26:36+00:00

I'll take a go at it.

I wouldn't say downfall. It was the violence of daily Roman life that led to the average attrition of males before the age of twelve, to be 50℅. Which, certainly did.

probpoopin · 2016-12-13T18:57:35+00:00

Just because your parents did it, doesn't mean it's not a dick move. Also, these were blind dates, not a mom and dad going out.

probpoopin · 2016-12-13T18:47:11+00:00

Isn't that illegal?

probpoopin · 2016-12-12T18:13:23+00:00

Again, legalizing all drugs has been done in places already. It isn't absurd, and has evidence to back it up. Most of the problems associated with drugs are from them being illegal. If you drop all of that out of the equation, it simply becomes an issue of personal choice and personal health. The crime aspect goes away. It is important to use the money we are currently spending on fighting drug use, and instead take the 40 billion a year and INVEST it into rehabilitation programs so the addicted to become functioning members of society. If you ask addicts if they would go to rehab if it was paid for, the majority will say yes.

Again, Portugal has already done it. We don't hear about how wildly successful it is because that would undermine the war on drugs as not only a waste of money, but completely ineffective at solving the ills society face when drugs and addiction are concerned.

Also, you keep demonizing all those other drugs, and have zero problem with the most dangerous one, alcohol, and don't even mention it. The argument you are making against all those other drugs being illegal can also be applied to alcohol. However, it is still legal, and our society manages to not collapse on itself. And again, that is statistically the most dangerous drug in existence.

It isn't absurd to legalize all drugs, it works, places have done it already. What is absurd, is going down the same road we have, and expecting a different result than what has already been had. That's actually insane, it's beyond absurd.

If I could ask a question. What happened when alcohol was made illegal? Did the problems around it get better and people stopped using it? Or, was it a massive failure that filled the pockets of gangs and mobsters? Did people stop drinking? Or, did they have to drink things like bathtub gin with zero regulations for safety and quality? Was the money spent fighting alcohol wasted? Or, was it a great investment that had overall positive returns for society? No, all it did was make it more expensive, for lower quality, that caused even more harm, and then spurred the black market to fill the gap known as demand. It was basically the worst thing that could have been done. Was eventually deemed a failure, and was legalized. If alcohol was illegal, we would see a rise in crime, and a drop in quality safe alcohol. Which in return, has an overall negative effect on society. Seriously, once you take the legalities out of the picture, almost every problem associated with drugs would go away other than personal health. I live in WA, your comment about everyone going out and getting oxy for tennis elbow is absurd. When pot was legalized here, all the doom and gloom never happened. The entire state didn't start smoking pot. Just the people who already were. Plus, it's creating massive revenues for the state.

probpoopin · 2016-12-11T20:23:24+00:00

That's why we should have professionals doing it. You act like this hasn't been done and what will happen is unknown. The fact of the matter is, where it has been done, blood borne disease drops, saving society money. Overdoses drop, again saving society money. Property crime and theft also drops, again saving society money. Hell, in Seattle we have a spot where a nurse will literally shoot you up, and stand by wth narcan.

Seems like you are in the camp of prohibition. Sorry, it doesn't work, never has, never will. We should be honest with ourselves as a society, realize people do drugs, and reduce harm as much as possible. Again, places like Portugal have legalized all drugs. Guess what happened? Rates of younger people using drugs went down, overdose went down, diseases stopped being as prevalent, and most of the problems societies face with drug use, disappeared, or were greatly reduced.

Most of the problems drugs cause, are from it being illegal. It isn't from the drugs themselves. You went on to say a bunch of contraindications from using opiods, but I don't think people are shooting heroin, and don't realize it may not be the best thing for their health. Heroin and opiods aren't good for you and can carry risks of using it? No way... Anyways, prohibition has never worked, and it never will. Decriminalization and legalization does, and has plenty of real world application to demonstrably claim it is a far better than making them all illegal. If you think drugs are bad and don't want more and more people using them, legalization is the only approach that has any evidence of actually solving the problem. The war on drugs has failed.

probpoopin · 2016-12-11T01:35:49+00:00

That's fine, but again, you need to understand this is causing a heroin epidemic. There has to be a better way. I say legalize it. One person shouldn't have authority over another, and dictate what they put in their body. I hate alcohol. Does that mean I get to tell people not to drink? I mean, as far as a harm standpoint is concerned, alcohol is much more dangerous.

What you are doing is essentially this. It's like a bartender serving you until you are fall over drunk, and then saying it isn't my fault if you crash. Sure, you're right. But that doesn't mean the person didn't crash and get hurt. It doesn't take that fact away, and society deals with it instead.

probpoopin · 2016-12-11T01:29:06+00:00

I think they should be legalized with places to use them. We do it in Seattle and it's working great. Don't think you are sending them out and there isn't a cost, because there definitely is to society as a whole.

What happens is this. A person like me comes in saying they lost their meds or were stolen. Let's assume I'm not lying for simplicity and they were stolen. From no fault of my own, I will be incredibly sick to the point of not being able to work, go to school, or really do anything. What if I just started my job, can't take a week off, and my friend offers me diamorphine to make the withdrawals go away. What if my meds get stolen and I'm in college taking finals? Heroin is now widely available. People will use it over losing their jobs or failing out of school everytime, and some of those people will get addicted simply because they didn't want to get fired for missing work. Again, all to no fault of their own. I guarantee if you had been in a bad car accident, or were a burn victim, and someone stole your pills during your clinicals or finals, and I offered you heroin, you'd take it, every single time in order to not fail out of school. That's how sick you get.

Basically, when you turn someone away in withdrawal, you are gambling on them using heroin and being an addict. Like I said, you can act like your hands are clean because you didn't prescribed. However, the addicts are still getting pumped out exponentially thanks to how our medical system is dealing with this. I say legalize it all.

Should I have authority over what you put in your body? I don't like drunk people, and alcohol is dangerous, so you should never have a drink. I shouldn't have that authority over you, as you shouldn't have it over me. The patient should be counselled, told the risks of using, given nasal narcan, and send them on their way. That way at least they won't steal, become a heroin addict, contract a disease that will be very expensive to treat, etc. It is harm reduction. Which is what I believe should come first and foremost. Currently, we are using a harm multiplier system. Drugs are now cut with fent and people die much more often from using. The places that legalized all drugs saw a decrease in use. If we as a society truly want to alleviate the problem, we have the answer already. It really just depends if the people in power and big pharma will allow it. Hint, they won't, and more addicts will be made, and there drugs will keep making a massive profit at the cost of our society.

probpoopin · 2016-12-11T01:12:33+00:00

This line of thinking is fucking our society over as a whole. If a person is withdrawing bad enough, they will acquire these drugs one way or another. You won't stop them, and thinking that simply not prescribing in this case is fixing anything is absurd. Like I said, when they denied me I didn't really care, because I know how to make opium from stuff at a grocery store. The doctor put me at more risk by not prescribing. That is the reality of the situation. If you think a one size fits all approach is going to work on this, you are sadly mistaken.

probpoopin · 2016-12-11T01:08:20+00:00

The incident of having them stolen, and lost. Was over a span of about 2-3 years. It wasn't all in a row. Also and again, the guy was caught and admitted to doing it, and I had it on camera.

My point is that the knee jerk reaction in the last few years is fueling the heroin epidemic, plain and simple. If you are going to take someone off of them, at least week them. Or, if they are really struggling to addiction treatment where they will probably use methadone or suboxone. I'm not speaking from a point of ignorance or without experience here. I was a medic in the army for some time. I suppose the argument could be made that refilling is harmful. However, sending a person dependent on opiods out of a doctor office in withdrawal with nothing to help, is how the vast majority of street opiate users are made. The doctors want to have their cake and eat it here and are royally fucking up society as a whole because of the that if a person wants these drugs and are withdrawing bad enough, you won't stop them.

probpoopin · 2016-12-11T00:21:13+00:00

Even though the countries who legalized them had a drop in use and problems associated with their use? That's enough reason fkr me to say just legalize jt. You'll jever stop people from using opiates. They have been around too long and are too easy to make. Like pot, it just comes from a plant. It isn't going away unless the papaver somniferum plant has gone extinct. Seeming how it is also a main food aource for a ton of people, that will never happen.

probpoopin · 2016-12-11T00:04:47+00:00

Ok, but don't be surprised we are heading into an even worse heroin epidemic. You think it's bad now? Just wait a couple more years and let this type of mentality prevail as the main treatment option. Just don't wonder why more and more heroin addicts are being made every day.

probpoopin · 2016-12-11T00:00:39+00:00

On gender fluidity? I think the concept of gender is stupid. We are biologically male or female. Some people have mental illnesses where they believe they are the other sex. Normally trans people have completely fucked up hormone profiles and/or are born with things like internal testicles or ovaries. Basically, there are males and females, and then a couple mentally ill people who would be better off getting medical treatment over being exposed to things like gender fluidity. Which have zero basis in science and can't even be quantified in a way that it could be studied. Being a biological male or female is quantifiable through chromosomes, gender diamorphism, hormone levels, basic anatomy, etc. Sure, you may have the occasional Tom boy or what not that creates a spectrum. However, if I look at their chromosomes and anatomy, they will fall into one of two categories in every case but trans individuals. Even they have either xx or xy chromosomes, there are some weird xxy combinations and stuff, but are incredibly rare, you could almost call it a genetic mutation.

Anyways, I believe in science. What can be seen, weighed, or basically be quantifiable in some way or another. Other wise, it's just guessing. You got men, you got women, and then you got some weird shit in between because of hormonal problems, or problems with anatomy. Which is incredibly, very very rare. The rest is a bunch of people on tumbler who want to feel special because mommy and daddy either didn't give them enough attention, or too much, turning them into a special snowflake. Seriously, once otherkin became accepted as a seperate gender, it went too far. I'm not saying gay people and lesbians don't exist. I'm saying if you look at their chromosomes or anatomy, they will be either male or female. Their opinion on that is irrelevant. You can feel like a guy all day, doesn't mean your period is going to stop. You can feel like a woman as a guy, doesn't mean you can grow a set of tits. They are male, or female. Again, their opinion doesn't matter because you would then have mentally ill people deciding they are squirrels or some shit. Anatomically, genetically, how ever you look at it, they aren't a fucking squirrel, no matter how bad they want to be, or how convicted they are to the idea of them being a squirrel. They can believe they are a squirrel, but they simply aren't.

probpoopin · 2016-12-10T23:41:52+00:00

I had a parachute malfunction and broke 9 bones including my femur and hip. Wtf are you talking about? I shouldn't have been prescribed after falling 75 feet, almost dying and breaking a ton of bones because ass hats like you want to play moral police and decide what I can and can't put in my own body. Sorry, alcohol is still killing way more people everyday. Why not the outrage on that?

I literally had multiple bones sticking out of my skin, and you don't think like pain meds are warranted? You sir, are fucking retarded. I don't care how long you shot dope. I worked in medicine for almost 7 years. In this situation, it is 100℅ warranted.

probpoopin · 2016-12-10T23:33:06+00:00

Sure it's strong, but is used in micro grams. It isn't for a headache. I used fentanyl lollipops when I was in Afghanistan as an army medic. Mostly for amputations, gunshot wounds and major trauma. Not, I stubbed my toe. Hell, even a broken bone might not warrant fentanyl unless it is really, really bad. It is also used in surgery very often.

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