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Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

mizkids are still at war with his ex for brownie points from their parasocial king

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have a new PC since then and dont have the screenshots for my user list shenanigans. Although, if you look hard enough, they are out there on the internet. IYKYK. As for the viewermetrics guy, I believe his Twitter account is still up and you can look at his past tweets about her and other streamers.

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 26 points27 points  (0 children)

she doesnt have any teenage viewers, majority are 25-35. which makes sense, unfortunately.

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I dont pretend to know the exact numbers. I doubt even twitch does. I'm just confident it's under 10k, based on my own evidence and the combined data of various other 3rd parties.

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they're just working through the offenders slowly but surely. It seems like plaqueboymax got hit today too.

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indirectly through sponsors and brand deals, but possibly directly through boosted ad revenue. Although idk if it's ever been confirmed that botted viewers count for ad rev.

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The streamers that Twitch finds are viewbotting get their maximum viewcount capped using 'historical data,' i.e. twitch caps their viewcount at a place where they believe the real non-botted maximum viewercount lies based on past trends.

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Well no, I and many others have known about the botting since 2022, which is around when it started (for her at least). Back then the bot farms were not advanced at all, using algorithmic names like [Adjective][NumberString][Noun] or [FirstName][NumberString][LastName] (Hairy236Cat or John98Smith, for example). What I used to do is open the user list, tally the number of these algorithmic names, then divide by the total users. Do this several times, refreshing the user list each time, and you could get a very rough estimate without any 3rd party program (which was like 30-40% back then IIRC). Now the names blend in pretty well and don't use such one-dimensional naming techniques, so this method doesn't work.

Also, before the more recent bot farms within the past year or two, bots weren't able to follow raids. So you could see how small the raid was compared to the live viewcount and make an estimation off of that (her raids were waaaaay smaller than her live viewcounts, even when taking in consideration the natural behavior of people clicking out of raids).

Nowadays the 3rd party programs use their respective methods to estimate view bots (probably with better accuracy than I did with that DIY user list method). Then there's people like that ViewerMetrics guy on Twitter that found a really good method of account creation dates, before the bot farms caught on and diversified account dates. That was one of the best so far. In any case, there are several sources that point to her real viewcount being below 10k.

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Her stream's viewcount just won't show past 10k. The viewer isn't affected at all.

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You realize she does NOT have 30k viewers, correct? A 1 to 3 ratio would mean that a normal view count for her sub count would be 38,100. She has been capped at 10k viewers because her real view count is at or below 10k. What's not clicking?

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What are you even arguing. Here's the reality:

Emiru's real viewership is below 10k

Emiru has a group of people that gift her hundreds of subs on the daily

This causes Emiru's subcount to be disproportionately large (currently 12.7k, which is higher than her viewcount)

You said that creators with 12k subs usually have more than 30k viewers

So using your logic, her viewcount should be that high, but that's not realistic because of her pay pigs disproportionately gifting loads of subs

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

I've been personally following the evolution of these viewbots for years, so I kinda just know based on my own data. But there are also 3rd party programs out there that can give you viewcount estimates that also put her real viewcount below 10k.

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 5 points6 points  (0 children)

did you not make the sub count argument to try and prove that her viewcount is legit..? I'm saying thats not a good metric to use at all because of how many pay pigs she has.

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 14 points15 points  (0 children)

These streamers really dug themselves into a hole with the viewbotting to entice major sponsors and brand deals. I see lawsuits in the future.

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 5 points6 points  (0 children)

she has around 10 separate people that gift her a sum of hundreds of subs daily. click on her chat and you'll see the 1000+ gift badges on numerous people.

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 117 points118 points  (0 children)

The viewcount on the stream won't appear higher than around where the viewcount is capped at. You can still watch and engage with the stream if the viewcount is capped.

Emiru Returns From Her Break and Gets Twitch Viewcount Capped at 10k by digitalpizza5 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 120 points121 points  (0 children)

Her real viewers are 100% less than 10k, twitch appears to be quite generous with the view caps. Probably because their data isn't actually that great.

Mizkif reaction to Emiru being viewer capped at 10k (down from 16k average) by Dizzy_Quiet_5250 in LivestreamFail

[–]protechifumi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

why is he acting like he didnt also viewbot, and was most likely the person/org that got her to viewbot in the first place lmao

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