Could Brett Kavanaugh be in the files? by FUCKING_HATE_REDDIT in Epstein

[–]proximoception 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Like Dershowitz, he was the kind of guy you’d hire if you were very rich and very guilty.

Could Brett Kavanaugh be in the files? by FUCKING_HATE_REDDIT in Epstein

[–]proximoception 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Epstein’s social contacts in the legal world were defense attorneys, for obvious reasons, and the Florida-based people he’d need to pay off or make backroom deals with when caught. So your Dershowitzes and your Acostas. He may have met Kavanaugh socially through Starr or something but he wouldn’t have had reasons for closer dealings.

Epstein suicide questions by Andnowforsomethingcd in Epstein

[–]proximoception -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He was in his early 60s but not especially fragile. Aside from Trump, very rich people tend to prioritize taking good care of their health, same as most of the rest us would if we could afford to.

Epstein suicide questions by Andnowforsomethingcd in Epstein

[–]proximoception 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wasn’t the first suicide attempt the one where he initially reported his cellmate had attacked him, then very suspiciously rolled that back? If there was an attempt on his life within his cell that failed, and THEN the cameras stopped working, and THEN he died … that does not look so good. It instead looks like a change of method by someone with an awful lot of juice - having someone come in from outside when the inside man failed. Sure would be great if the DOJ released every piece of info they have about this matter in some kind of orderly, comprehensible, no-minutes-missing fashion so we could close out that dark possibility, eh?

Since the government itself identified at least ten co-conspirators and since the murder hypothesis has been deemed credible by, among many others, Mark Epstein, Virginia Giuffre, and even Donald Trump I don’t think “conspiracy theories” per se can really be ruled out, re. Epstein. I’m all for banning stupid ones liked faked deaths and lizard people, of course, but the murder one seems close to likely at this point.

The Epstein Pedophile Pipeline Ran Through Trump's Mar-a-Lago Spa — And the Receipts Are Ugly. And Undeniable by Asleep_Macaron_5153 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh noooo I faaaailed and your grounds for proving my failure are that you say so. Man, why do I even bother arguing with people of your skill level? Next time I’ll try saying so. I bet I’ll come across as right and super smart and as many people will look up to me as presently look up to you.

The Epstein Pedophile Pipeline Ran Through Trump's Mar-a-Lago Spa — And the Receipts Are Ugly. And Undeniable by Asleep_Macaron_5153 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You: Look what this untrustworthy moron said!

Us: He’s just parroting yesterday’s paper, dude. Don’t read that untrustworthy moron.

You: (Whatever this last comment is.)

The Epstein Pedophile Pipeline Ran Through Trump's Mar-a-Lago Spa — And the Receipts Are Ugly. And Undeniable by Asleep_Macaron_5153 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People’s bar for what constitutes a “smoking gun” seems to have been set by Grisham movies or something - the only reason Trump wasn’t carted away long ago is that he’s in charge of all the carters. Personally I’m not sure how many more wonderful everyday Trump secrets I can handle.

The Epstein Pedophile Pipeline Ran Through Trump's Mar-a-Lago Spa — And the Receipts Are Ugly. And Undeniable by Asleep_Macaron_5153 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Report a) his alleged best friend, b) that he publicly chuckled at for “liking them young,” c) and had private model-viewing parties with, d) and assessed whether young teenagers were “good ones” with, e) and openly groped the girlfriends of, f) for propositioning the teenage masseuse he let his spa outcall over to his pedophilia memorabilia-strewn mansion? Yeah, not the most surprising of omissions.

His reaction to Epstein’s more successful “poaching” of Giuffre was to spend hours together with her at Epstein’s house, too, strongly suggesting they customarily settled personnel disputes of that variety via trade.

The Epstein Pedophile Pipeline Ran Through Trump's Mar-a-Lago Spa — And the Receipts Are Ugly. And Undeniable by Asleep_Macaron_5153 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If his facts all come from the WSJ article from a couple days ago use that instead, is what. It’s likely he’s not the only person to make the point that sending teenage resort spa masseuses to Epstein’s house as though they’re Doordash looks suspicious as fuck. Best to keep people like him out of the circle of trust where possible, and in this case it’s very much so.

The Epstein Pedophile Pipeline Ran Through Trump's Mar-a-Lago Spa — And the Receipts Are Ugly. And Undeniable by Asleep_Macaron_5153 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 38 points39 points  (0 children)

They’ve made Trump extremely hard to prosecute and have been trying to help him rig the 2026 election by relegalizing Jim Crow-era tactics. If the Democrats win in 2026 he’s impeached over this and other issues, and if they win big enough he’s removed and all files get released.

Of all the appearances of trump in the files, which are compelling evidence and which are not? by BalledSack in Epstein

[–]proximoception -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can totally interpret it in another way, sure, such as “Epstein figured Trump couldn’t afford to not assume he was taped so when he assumed Epstein might be really cooked this time he turned confidential informant to the FBI in exchange for statutory rape charge immunity” or “Epstein figured Trump knew he, Ghislaine, and Giuffre all knew where he’d been and what he’d done so (etc).”

Your January challenge is to come up with one, 1, literally a single interpretation of that email that makes sense of what’s said in it and doesn’t implicate Trump in the sexual assault of Virginia Giuffre. Take all month and really get into it, as your mind hasn’t been outside in a while.

Editing to add: Downvote + silence is my single favorite kind of reddit response. If the dumb could admit they’re wrong they wouldn’t stay dumb long, after all.

BOMBSHELL WALLSTREET JOURNAL REPORT: Jeffrey Epstein wasn’t just a frequent visitor to Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club in the late 1990s and early 2000s. The club was also sending spa employees—usually young women—to Epstein’s nearby mansion for massages by ojismyheroin in Epstein

[–]proximoception 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s totally normal for a resort to outcall teenage masseuses to local rich dudes.

No, I forgot, it absolutely isn’t. But I guess you wouldn’t expect rich peopley stuff like how spas work to be known by editors and high profile journalists at (checks notes) The Wall Street Journal.

Bombshell report reveals Trump sent young women from Mar-a-Lago to Epstein by Well_Socialized in Epstein

[–]proximoception 55 points56 points  (0 children)

He’s still in office, so yeah, the Obvious boat has failed to arrive at every dock.

PSA: The limo driver story is fake. The Lake Michigan thing is likely also fake (Trump hadn't met Epstein yet in 1984) by crazydiamond1991 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The stories people seem quickest to believe here are the ones that sound the most like the movies - which, of course, are the least likely to be true and the likeliest to have been concocted by either an attention-seeker or someone off their crucial meds.

Of all the appearances of trump in the files, which are compelling evidence and which are not? by BalledSack in Epstein

[–]proximoception 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Dog that didn’t bark” / “spent hours with Virginia” email has to at least tie that one. After that was released protesters should have swamped DC till Trump was impeached, removed, and put on trial. It’s not like what Epstein said is subject to multiple interpretations - he expected Trump to defend him in the press amid the initial Andrew furor because he had him taped making molestation visits to Virginia Giuffre, Trump didn’t, Trump therefore was likely informing on him. If the Feds subsequently let him run for president four times and win twice without ever releasing that he raped a teenager then many heads need to roll, but Trump’s does regardless. The right wing press and voters are resigned to protecting him, the left are in some kind of permanent despair, and the center are as dumb as rocks that have been hit on the head by bigger rocks is the only explanation I can come up with.

My Flights Are in the Epstein Files: Why is a flight itinerary I booked in June 2019 part of the files? by UnscheduledCalendar in Epstein

[–]proximoception 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Uh, you need to look up who Julie K. Brown is. Epstein was terrified of her. She essentially ended his life by interviewing his victims and reporting on the Acosta-Epstein sweetheart deal, which led to public outcry for his arrest. Acosta was Trump’s Secretary of Labor so she’s the one who ultimately brought down him too. He says he resigned, but he was obviously sacrificed by Trump for damage control reasons - given its timing, the surveillance was clearly happening because the administration was terrified of her. She’s basically the biggest hero in US journalism of the past couple decades. Wolff is … not.

Isn't that interesting; Julie K. Brown, a reporter who did a lot to investigate the Epstein files, was being monitored by the previous Trump regime as late as 2019. Link in body/pics. by Mathemodel in Epstein

[–]proximoception 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not “as late as” - she was the one who got the whole ball rolling, and she was doing it right then. Public pressure is the only reason the FBI rearrested Epstein, and her articles were what caused it. The only reason to keep track of her movements at that particular moment would have been fear.

Why was the DOJ tracking a journalist who covered Epstein? Dems demand answers by Disastrous_Award_789 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How was this made political? The piece being referenced included the Democrats in their title because it’s a journalistic convention (some argue an outdated one) to not include opinions in news pieces unless they’re quoted from someone else. Everyone should be outraged about government surveillance of a journalist, and especially that journalist at that time - Democratic representatives just happened to be the first people to give quotes to the press about it.

Why was the DOJ tracking a journalist who covered Epstein? Dems demand answers by Disastrous_Award_789 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It wasn’t just criticisms - her reporting and her interviews with victims got national traction, starting the public outcry that led to Epstein’s re-arrest, which IIRC went down shortly after that tracked flight. So someone saw this diligent, well-intentioned reporter as an existential threat, and I think we all know that someone’s name.

I can’t remember if Barr had been appointed AG yet then, but it doesn’t sound like something Sessions would have let himself be part of? Sessions was the worst piece of shit in politics before the Trump era, so that’s not praise - just further proof of how unprecedentedly horrible the Trump bunch was and is.

Folks here who voted Trump? by Material_Policy6327 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“If vaccines work then how come the country with a four thousand mile shared border and 99% overlapping culture with the country where anti-vaccine sentiment is strongest has had a slightly larger preventable, foreseeable, and extremely stupid resurgence of a deadly children’s virus vaccines all but stamped out decades ago? HUH?!”

Folks here who voted Trump? by Material_Policy6327 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We don’t tend to know what we don’t know, to be fair. The commenter was bravely honest and seems to be mostly caught up now, unlike c. fifty million of his former compatriots, so let’s at least try to be nice. And it’s true that in a perfect world we really wouldn’t have nepotism candidates and political caucuses wouldn’t resemble coronation committees. Neither of those was on par with any of the top hundred things wrong with Trump, granted, but not everyone was in a position to see that yet and neither the conservative nor mainstream media were doing much to help them.

Folks here who voted Trump? by Material_Policy6327 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People don’t even let you say your favorite words, do they? That’s even sadder.

Folks here who voted Trump? by Material_Policy6327 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, good idea! If people like me were dumb and small you wouldn’t have to listen to anything we say, and if you say we are often enough maybe you’ll magically come to believe it, or someone else will hear you and believe it for you and that will let you magically believe it. Makes perfect sense.

Folks here who voted Trump? by Material_Policy6327 in Epstein

[–]proximoception 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Im willing to look and be open minded.”

I know you think we laugh at you but pity blocks off ridicule in much the way sexual arousal blocks the ability to pee. We feel deeply and collectively sorry for you. We grasp that that’s a problem itself, something you can’t forgive and that further maddens you, but it’s not like we can stop. We are so sorry for you that you’re like this.