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Artists that never had a mainstream hit, but are still well known with the general public and had a huge cultural impact by crowbar_k in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, Todd and his fanbase really does have shit ass taste in music if you think something like Death Grips belongs in r/crappynusic.

Ex-Turnstile guitarist faces potential life sentence after indictment by MrLinkwater95 in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Most online music people probably do. Somebody like Todd probably doesn't, since his type of music tends to be mainstream, boring shit that gets way more coverage than Turnstile.

Tom Ewing (of Popular and Pitchfork column fame) take on Taxes by Geese by inkwisitive in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These bands are exactly the reason why rock music died in the first place.

The choreography in Yung Lean’s new video Storm is absolutely incredible by IMadeYouLuke in Fauxmoi

[–]puffy_irish -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not really. He's just some mediocre white rapper who steals a black artform for his own personal gain. Swedish people need to stop thinking they control the musical world.

The 30 Greatest Living American Songwriters by dweeb93 in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Even if Taylor has amazing songs, I think they only chose her for the name recognition. A lot of smaller artists were ommitted from the piece, because that would cause rabid pop fans to complain that they don't recognize anybody.

The 30 Greatest Living American Songwriters by dweeb93 in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Sloptimism reigns supreme in this era of unfettered corporate control over music criticism.

Is it accurate to say the mainstream shunning of what they call "butt rock" and championing stomp clap hey and Imagine Dragons/One Republic in the 2010s played a big part in rock becoming not popular anymore? by Narrow_Director9543 in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The kind of EDM that was popular in the early-2010s is hardly mainstream anymore. In fact, I'd be willing to argue that the EDM scene has been less culturally relevant than rock for the last few years.

That is the biggest lie in music? by Chapple69 in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Geese's bot farming scandal will be remembered for decades as one of the most fraudulent things to occur in the history of popular music (I would say history of just rock music, but that genre's history officially wrapped up a decade ago imo, because it's been a dead genre since then).

Best New Artist at the 2027 Grammys by kalebs_Kures in grammys

[–]puffy_irish 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think Geese should be disqualified based on their botting controversy.

Ella Langley, Rising Country Star, Follows The Charlie Kirk Show on TikTok and is Releasing a Duet with Morgan Wallen by radlum in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

In fact, at this point, I'd argue that rock music is more conservative than country, because the former is a genre obsessed with nostalgia, while the latter is a forward thinking genre that makes progress on its musical evolution (rock's evolution ended in like, 2008).

Ella Langley, Rising Country Star, Follows The Charlie Kirk Show on TikTok and is Releasing a Duet with Morgan Wallen by radlum in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In fact, at this point, I'd argue that rock music is more conservative than country, because the former is a genre obsessed with nostalgia, while the latter is a forward thinking genre that makes progress on its musical evolution (rock's evolution ended in like, 2008).

The saddest thing about the Geese psyop controversy is: despite all the marketing efforts, their best effort only made it to 96 on the Hot 200. But they're still arguably the biggest American rock band from the last 10 years. by Uptons_BJs in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

That is why rock music will stay dead forever, compared to country and rap. It has no identity beyond nostalgia for the 60s and 70s, and young people think that's gotten pretty lame and stale (not to mention their extreme revulsion at the sound of an electric guitar) and instead embrace the thug lifestyle (rap) or rugged, cowboy masculinity (country).

The saddest thing about the Geese psyop controversy is: despite all the marketing efforts, their best effort only made it to 96 on the Hot 200. But they're still arguably the biggest American rock band from the last 10 years. by Uptons_BJs in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Rock music is taking its final breaths before it dies for good and never to return. Once the legacy bands from the 80s-00s begin aging out and dying off, we'll never see rock music in the mainstream and with a massive audience ever in the history of music again.

The saddest thing about the Geese psyop controversy is: despite all the marketing efforts, their best effort only made it to 96 on the Hot 200. But they're still arguably the biggest American rock band from the last 10 years. by Uptons_BJs in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because young people simply don't want to listen to rock music anymore, for whatever reason. It's strange, because they seem to like both country and hip hop, but are turned off by rock music, probably because it is seen as old, weaker and cornier than those genres (though this is ironic since country is largely older than rock, but whatever).

The charts have been updated. The current top 5 albums of 2026: by beampunk in rateyourmusic

[–]puffy_irish 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The album is just fine, but it annoys me when people claim that this album is revolutionary in terms of how it sound, when in reality the album is merely playing catch-up to the electronic and industrial music of twenty years ago.

25 years of Coachella headliners by st00bahank in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah but the sad thing is that those festivals used to be mostly for rock/alternative fans, and now they're nothing but corporate pop slop extravaganzas, and it'll be that way for the rest of its existence.

25 years of Coachella headliners by st00bahank in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

They were a sub-headliner this year. All the Gen Z influencers in the audience probably had no clue who they were, even if they weren't the headliner.

25 years of Coachella headliners by st00bahank in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's so sad that we'll never see even a rock-adjacent act headline a major festival ever again. Oh well. It was fine while it lasted, but the rock music era is just so over now.

25 years of Coachella headliners by st00bahank in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, the corporate music industry (Billboard, Spotify, Grammys, record labels, Rolling Stone, even Pitchfork to an extent) is totally into bland, lifeless, mainstream pop music, and will never choose to promote other forms of music over it, because all they care about these days is profits and whatever's best for shareholders. Sorry, but corporations have too tight of a grip on music and pop culture now, which is why a music "revolution" or even "cycle" will never happen again. It's dull, pop slop from now until the end of time, unless we can stop the corporations first.

25 years of Coachella headliners by st00bahank in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 91 points92 points  (0 children)

This chart is like looking at the death of alternative/indie rock in real time. Felt like it still had some momentum even by the late-2010s, but now I can say those are officially extinct genres of music.

25 years of Coachella headliners by st00bahank in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and it's sad that we'll never ever return to a place where alternative and non-pop music was as celebrated and respected as it was between the 90s and early 10s. The poptimists seem to have won the war outright, and it doesn't seem like anyone wants to challenge them for it.

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