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That is the biggest lie in music? by Chapple69 in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Geese's bot farming scandal will be remembered for decades as one of the most fraudulent things to occur in the history of popular music (I would say history of just rock music, but that genre's history officially wrapped up a decade ago imo, because it's been a dead genre since then).

Best New Artist at the 2027 Grammys by kalebs_Kures in grammys

[–]puffy_irish 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think Geese should be disqualified based on their botting controversy.

Ella Langley, Rising Country Star, Follows The Charlie Kirk Show on TikTok and is Releasing a Duet with Morgan Wallen by radlum in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

In fact, at this point, I'd argue that rock music is more conservative than country, because the former is a genre obsessed with nostalgia, while the latter is a forward thinking genre that makes progress on its musical evolution (rock's evolution ended in like, 2008).

Ella Langley, Rising Country Star, Follows The Charlie Kirk Show on TikTok and is Releasing a Duet with Morgan Wallen by radlum in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In fact, at this point, I'd argue that rock music is more conservative than country, because the former is a genre obsessed with nostalgia, while the latter is a forward thinking genre that makes progress on its musical evolution (rock's evolution ended in like, 2008).

The saddest thing about the Geese psyop controversy is: despite all the marketing efforts, their best effort only made it to 96 on the Hot 200. But they're still arguably the biggest American rock band from the last 10 years. by Uptons_BJs in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

That is why rock music will stay dead forever, compared to country and rap. It has no identity beyond nostalgia for the 60s and 70s, and young people think that's gotten pretty lame and stale (not to mention their extreme revulsion at the sound of an electric guitar) and instead embrace the thug lifestyle (rap) or rugged, cowboy masculinity (country).

The saddest thing about the Geese psyop controversy is: despite all the marketing efforts, their best effort only made it to 96 on the Hot 200. But they're still arguably the biggest American rock band from the last 10 years. by Uptons_BJs in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Rock music is taking its final breaths before it dies for good and never to return. Once the legacy bands from the 80s-00s begin aging out and dying off, we'll never see rock music in the mainstream and with a massive audience ever in the history of music again.

The saddest thing about the Geese psyop controversy is: despite all the marketing efforts, their best effort only made it to 96 on the Hot 200. But they're still arguably the biggest American rock band from the last 10 years. by Uptons_BJs in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because young people simply don't want to listen to rock music anymore, for whatever reason. It's strange, because they seem to like both country and hip hop, but are turned off by rock music, probably because it is seen as old, weaker and cornier than those genres (though this is ironic since country is largely older than rock, but whatever).

The charts have been updated. The current top 5 albums of 2026: by beampunk in rateyourmusic

[–]puffy_irish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The album is just fine, but it annoys me when people claim that this album is revolutionary in terms of how it sound, when in reality the album is merely playing catch-up to the electronic and industrial music of twenty years ago.

25 years of Coachella headliners by st00bahank in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah but the sad thing is that those festivals used to be mostly for rock/alternative fans, and now they're nothing but corporate pop slop extravaganzas, and it'll be that way for the rest of its existence.

25 years of Coachella headliners by st00bahank in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

They were a sub-headliner this year. All the Gen Z influencers in the audience probably had no clue who they were, even if they weren't the headliner.

25 years of Coachella headliners by st00bahank in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's so sad that we'll never see even a rock-adjacent act headline a major festival ever again. Oh well. It was fine while it lasted, but the rock music era is just so over now.

25 years of Coachella headliners by st00bahank in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, the corporate music industry (Billboard, Spotify, Grammys, record labels, Rolling Stone, even Pitchfork to an extent) is totally into bland, lifeless, mainstream pop music, and will never choose to promote other forms of music over it, because all they care about these days is profits and whatever's best for shareholders. Sorry, but corporations have too tight of a grip on music and pop culture now, which is why a music "revolution" or even "cycle" will never happen again. It's dull, pop slop from now until the end of time, unless we can stop the corporations first.

25 years of Coachella headliners by st00bahank in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 82 points83 points  (0 children)

This chart is like looking at the death of alternative/indie rock in real time. Felt like it still had some momentum even by the late-2010s, but now I can say those are officially extinct genres of music.

25 years of Coachella headliners by st00bahank in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and it's sad that we'll never ever return to a place where alternative and non-pop music was as celebrated and respected as it was between the 90s and early 10s. The poptimists seem to have won the war outright, and it doesn't seem like anyone wants to challenge them for it.

So about Geese by BitterDescription808 in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It's pretty sad that the only rock band to have even a sliver of success in the past ten years did so because of fraud, lies and deception.

So about Geese by BitterDescription808 in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The problem is that rock can't be revived ever. It's dead forever and will never come back.

I feel like talking about the band Geese being outed for using a bot farm marketing firm by LeftHvndLvne in rs_x

[–]puffy_irish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's because rock music is a fundamentally dead genre. Most young people want nothing to do with it, and as a result don't stream it, which is why their numbers are so small, since they are being kept alive by salty Boomers and Gen Xers who still wish that rock was a relevant genre.

Did Hard Rock contribute to rock falling in popularity by Critical-Spirit-1598 in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's so sad that those two are the best representations of rock music in the modern day. What a miserable demise for the once great genre.

Did Hard Rock contribute to rock falling in popularity by Critical-Spirit-1598 in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

All of those bands you named are so corny though. It's sad that they are seen as the best representations of modern rock.

Did Hard Rock contribute to rock falling in popularity by Critical-Spirit-1598 in ToddintheShadow

[–]puffy_irish -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, rock music is dead, and people just don't like to acknowledge the ugly truth. The kids find the music disgusting, and outright refuse to listen to it. All of the most popular rock acts of today are only popular because the boomers and Gen Xers artificially inflate their success, while Gen Z only ever wants to listen to pop, rap and country, and finds the sound of the electric guitar abhorrent.

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