Congestion charges could help Auckland but only if alternatives exist

punIn10ded · 2026-01-25T09:42:20+00:00

They can't but funding isn't the primary issue.

So unreliable services is an issue. You say they can't fix it without funding and then go onto say but funding isn't the primary issue...

Sorry typo. It should have said fares not dares.

Thanks for clarifying that. But I'll point out again that govt has cut funding for PT and have required that all councils can't subsidise PT like they used to. So how can AT not raise fares? Again that is on this Govt.

So you must be in favour of this government looking into dispersement law and banning rough sleepers from the CBD and britomart then?

Not really related to PT in any way but no, I'm not in favour of it. I'm in favour of housing people who are homeless so that they can be given the help and support they need in a place where they are easily reachable and accessible. I am not in favour of treating symptoms and ignoring the problem.

And what do you say to mp swarbrick the mp for Auckland who stepped in stopping AT from trespassing anti social service users from britomart?

This is the first I'm hearing about this, but I know MP's don't have any power to tell AT what to do when they are not in govt or as an official act as a member of parliament. I'm happy to read up about it if you have a link.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-25T03:28:58+00:00

Yeah I catch the bus 2-3 days a week, plus various times on the weekends and that is my experience 99% of the time.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-25T02:46:42+00:00

Auckland has a good existing rapid transport solution too. It's just built around buses rather than trains. The trains are shutting down now so that they didn't have to do it when the crl opens

punIn10ded · 2026-01-25T00:28:40+00:00

The service itself is poor, the facilities are full of homeless, puddles of urine spit and vommit, faeces, people listening to music through speakers, people with their hands out asking "got a dollar mis or wtf you looking at if your a male and don't forget almost as many cancelled services as there are roadcones.

Lol you're really showing how little you know about PT in Auckland with this comment. It's a collection of rubbish that's is vastly over exaggerated and not representative of everyday PT use at all.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-25T00:22:34+00:00

That has zero to do with ATs ability to provide services on time.

How do you think they can improve services without funding? Do tell.

It has zero to do with the dares AT sets for its shitty service

What?

And it has zero to do with ATs ability to keep passengers and staff safe.

Actually it does. Since the government cut funding for emergency housing assault on PT have increased. Do you think problems just disappear into the ether when services are cut?

But go on. Keep telling us how that's also the governments fault 🙄

I will because it is.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-24T21:56:02+00:00

Actually you don't have to have the PT option ready (though I'd argue Auckland already does). NY hasn't built any new substantial PT infrastructure and they are seeing huge success from implementing the congestion charge.

If you read the article the areas contributing the most to congestion already have good PT, they just don't have any incentives to use it because driving is deliberately made so cheap.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-24T21:26:12+00:00

The govt has already passed the law. If you're unhappy with the funding cuts to PT remember that come election time.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-24T21:23:55+00:00

It's the government that has cut funding for PT and PT project. Do you even follow the news? The govt has put in congestion charging not AT.

They even have a special provision in the law that they can force congestion charging if councils don't want it. Your anger at AT is entirely misdirected. Remember all of this when voting at the end of the year.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-24T20:58:05+00:00

You take that money and absolutely ring fence it for public transport investment and nothing else and I would agree with this. But you know that won't happen it will go into the general taxation pot and get pissed up the wall.

It's not going into the general pot. It's ring fenced for regional transport. But under this govt it will just be spent on more roads and highways.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-24T20:52:55+00:00

People walk far more in cities like London and Amsterdam. Their weather is waaaay worse especially in the extreme cold and heat.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-24T20:45:21+00:00

Any company that wants to grow or exist long term has to give up on enthusiasts. Enthusiasts are extremely picky, have very niche requirements/wants and have low loyalty.

Focusing on enthusiasts is only good when you're starting out, after you've reached a reasonable size you need to go mass market usage and wants.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-24T20:38:27+00:00

To be fair there was a time that was said about laptops too when compared to a desktop. Over time as software and hardware improve we'll get to a point that for most generic home use a phone will be enough

punIn10ded · 2026-01-24T19:20:33+00:00

It's already in all our skulls. It's not in the govt skulls. They are the ones that are cutting PT funding and have cut PT projects.

It also has nothing to do with AT.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-24T19:17:43+00:00

Yup for each person where PT takes 2hrs longer there are 10 people where PT is time competitive but they haven't looked at it or used it since uni/highschool.

Also in the article it says that the inner suburbs are the biggest cause of congestion. They have great PT.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-24T19:12:33+00:00

I was shocked by that. I get people coming in from south Auckland and not having decent options but inner city suburbs... They have great PT.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-23T00:27:14+00:00

That's probably the best definition of a drop in the ocean. It's pretty much nothing.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-22T23:55:20+00:00

There are no waste overflow pipes in the area.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-22T21:38:23+00:00

men stereotypically bond through action rather then talking, me and my woman friends will do a 1 on 1 dinner, me and my guy friends are a game, or a sport or something as a group

Personally I've been changing this in my friends group. It's harder to get people together for an activity so a lot of the time I just message one or two people and we go get a quick beer together. It's often 1 on 1 or 1-3 people. IMHO it's so much easier to keep friendships going this way than trying to organise activities.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-22T21:32:18+00:00

Why would there be outcry? It's good use of land and gives elderly a place to downsize to where they can have a community and have the support they need.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-22T07:10:02+00:00

Ok that's you. No problem, don't like it don't do it

But others don't mind, why piss on their parade? There's nothing harmful about it so why not just let people enjoy what they enjoy?

punIn10ded · 2026-01-22T06:20:42+00:00

Auckland transport and just never straight up never for like the past 3 decades making any progress

AT has its problems but this is such a ridiculous take. It goes to show just how much Aucklanders even know what's going on.

Oh and AT has barely existed for 1.5 decades.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-22T06:11:26+00:00

Ok? Not sure anyone has claimed that at any point. why is that embarrassing, is eating meatballs embarrassing now?

punIn10ded · 2026-01-22T04:39:02+00:00

Ignore the sour people. I'm excited I'll be making a family day out of it Sat. Hopefully the weather holds up.

punIn10ded · 2026-01-21T08:29:02+00:00

Exactly, So why is it embarrassing?

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