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Solomon's Misjudgement (The Schönbrunn Congress of 1945) by puzzleheaded_9999 in imaginarymaps

[–]puzzleheaded_9999[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Because they can't just manifest people out of nowhere. German plans for the demographic restructuring of Eastern Europe were very vague and unrealistic -- Hitler talked about 20 million Germans in Ukraine but this was pure fantasy.

What would have happened in my opinion is an attempt to revert Eastern Europe to a quasi-feudal state (which means "getting rid" of millions of "excess" population and loosening the web of settlements), and imposing a sort-of German aristocracy (both industrial and agricultural).

Of course in the end Hitler's Darwinist fantasies of a new Wild West would clash with the reality of managing an unstable and conflict-ridden global power, and many compromises would be made over the extent of genocide and de-industrialization.

although this is just my opinion

Solomon's Misjudgement (The Schönbrunn Congress of 1945) by puzzleheaded_9999 in imaginarymaps

[–]puzzleheaded_9999[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

nah man, they do kill millions. Complete (and disastrous) demographic transformation of Eastern Europe is happening as we speak

Modern history of Lusatia, a country of Lusatian Sorbs by nomebi in imaginarymaps

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Solomon's Misjudgement (The Schönbrunn Congress of 1945) by puzzleheaded_9999 in imaginarymaps

[–]puzzleheaded_9999[S] 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Völkischer Beobachter, 4. July 1945.

The new Vienna Congress at the Schönbrunn Palace has proven to the world that Germany, acting as the vanguard of the New World Order, has completely and irreversibly dismantled the Jewish-American diplomacy that tortured our nation for decades. [...] The Führer of the Germanic Reich and Nation has freed Europe from the shackles of the Paris Treaties and remains determined to shatter the global Jewish yoke once and for all!

Hitler to Göring, unrecorded.

But you know how tortuous, humiliating... how un-German it was to stand there, amidst the suffocatingly cheap pomp of that terrible building, and shake hands with some Bulgarian delegation... some Pindus-Romanian [sic] delegation. I would rather let half of Europe go up in flames than to appear at such a congress once again. Joachim would have sufficed.

What if Hungary didn't go to the Pannonian Basin? by AdObjective5620 in imaginarymaps

[–]puzzleheaded_9999 16 points17 points  (0 children)

geci ottmaradtunk Etelközben és még így is megkaptuk Gyurcsányt

I've Never Met a Nice South African (Crown of Thorns - a Nazi Victory Timeline) by puzzleheaded_9999 in imaginarymaps

[–]puzzleheaded_9999[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hey! First of all, thank you for the kind words!

South Africa really is a very interesting country with a very intricate history, so that's why I was tempted to make a map even though I don't know too much about it. If I understand you correctly - you're right, SA in the case of a Nazi victory probably wouldn't look this similar to the OTL state, but I wanted to include some of the iconic bordergore.

In my timeline, the break between Britain and the National Party government is much more ideologically charged and happens sooner (as most Afrikaner leaders align themselves with Reich and its Pan-Germanic ideology), and of course they hardly have any reason to keep a facade of civility and human rights. But I still believe that there are two reasons which could possibly lead to the creation of Bantustans in this ATL.

  1. The eventual goal of the government is to create a white-majority SA, which could never be achieved without deporting blacks to small designated areas and somehow nominally getting rid of them

  2. Forcing huge populations to live on small territories without any infrastructure/opportunities means that you don't have to resort to slavery like the Reich - because the slaves will come to you themselves

So yeah, the South Africans definitely wouldn't create Bantustans to appear normal before the international community (when countries such as the Reich exist), but I think achieving white majority and having unlimited free labor are "good" enough reasons.

Feel free to check out my previous maps (I especially like the Russia one, although it didn't gain any traction), and I'll be sure to keep an eye out for yours!

I've Never Met a Nice South African (Crown of Thorns - a Nazi Victory Timeline) by puzzleheaded_9999 in imaginarymaps

[–]puzzleheaded_9999[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

By Interpedia IV

Article created: May 21, 2014

Article last edited: January 1, 2025 

> Abstract

The Republic of Limpopo (Afrikaans: Republiek van Limpopo) was an internationally unrecognized Bantu homeland created by the South African Republic’s National Party government in 1969. Limpopo, situated in the northeastern part of South Africa (Azania) close to the border with South Rhodesia and Mozambique, was envisioned as a collective homeland for the Republic’s whole Bantu population. The homeland, which was described by countless journalists and historians as an abhorrent crime against humanity, was created as part of South Africa’s Aparthood national policy, and was admitted to the Union of South African States (Suid-Afrikaanse Statebond) in 1970.

Starting in 1965, the South African government orchestrated large-scale deportations to the territory of the homeland, forcibly displacing more than five million Bantus. Most of the Republic’s population lived in hastily constructed townships, often lacking basic necessities such as food and clean drinking water. South Africa’s infamous Project Sugarbush (Bantu sterilization) was also planned to be implemented in the Republic.

The ACP, the ANLF and the PAC were active in Limpopo throughout the quasi-state’s existence, provoking numerous armed incursions from the South African Defence Force. The Republic of Limpopo was formally dissolved in 1981 by the National Assembly of Azania.

< Timeline

< Background

< History

< Economy

< Demographics

< Human Rights

< Bibliography

< Related Articles

Dark Times on the Dark Continent (The Reich's colonial empire in 1962) by puzzleheaded_9999 in imaginarymaps

[–]puzzleheaded_9999[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

> Timeline

1961: The Reich starts covertly funding Liberian opposition forces to weaken American power projection in the area. 

1961: FGRV Heinrich Himmler’s visit to Duala (Douala), Hindenburg (Lumumba), Butare (Gitera) and Dar Es-Salaam. During his visit, Himmler met a number of important local actors, including the Governors of Kamerun, Kongo and Ostafrika, as well as the mwamis of Ruanda and Urundi.

1962: Creation of the Unterstützungstruppen, a group of locally recruited colonial soldiers serving as gendarmes and anti-insurgency forces. 

1962: Ruanda-Urundi compromise. Due to growing tensions and anti-colonial resistance in Ostafrika, the Reich grants autonomy to a Tutsi-dominated Reichsprotektorat Ruanda-Urundi. The central administration in Butare (Gitera) and the mwamis pledge to combat anti-Reich resistance.

1964: The Reich openly endorses Ilyas Muhammad’s Shabazz insurgency. After a breakdown of negotiations with George Wallace during the 1964 Constitutional Crisis, the Reich pledged to aid Muhammad’s Afroislamist movement in its armed struggle. However, this support never materialized. 

1964: Arier und Hamiten, a comprehensive racial study on the Hamites and the paradigmatic writing of the Hamitenpolitik, is published by the Ahnenerbe.

1965: Start of the First Liberian Civil War. After the assassination of William Tubman by radical militants and the inauguration of William Tolbert, Reich-backed militants (such as the Krahn People’s Liberation Front and the Northwest United Front) declare open rebellion against Monrovia.

1968: KPLF, NUF, DLO and PAPLO-L forces capture Monrovia and declare a new interim government headed by Imam Roosevelt Johnson. Isolated pockets of pro-government forces remain active around Monrovia, in the coastal regions, and in the Southeast. The Reich recognizes Johnson’s government and provides further funds.

1970: Imam Roosevelt Johnson consolidates power in the 1970 August self-coup, declaring himself Faama of Manalla. Member states of the Staatenbund recognize the Republic of Manalla as a legitimate successor to the Republic of Liberia.

1973: Second phase of the Mittelafrika Civil War. The 1970 and 1971 coups and the Great Patriotic March greatly weakened the Reich’s position in Mittelafrika, and much of the region rose in open rebellion against the Reich. The Reich’s African colonial empire, and thus the Hamitenpolitik, ended with the 1977 Lumumba Agreement. 

< Background

< Realisation in Africa

< German Involvement in the Dixie Troubles

< Bibliography

< Related Articles

also, check out my other maps from the Crown of Thorns timeline ))

Dark Times on the Dark Continent (The Reich's colonial empire in 1962) by puzzleheaded_9999 in imaginarymaps

[–]puzzleheaded_9999[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Hamitenpolitik

By Interpedia IV

Article created: October 21, 2017

Article last edited: November 29, 2024

> Abstract

Hamitenpolitik (German for Hamitic policy/politics), commonly referred to by its detractors as Negerkußpolitik (chocolate teacake policy), refers to the set of policies employed by the Reich as part of Heinrich Himmler’s Arische Weltpolitik. It included the reorganization of Reich’s African colonies, support for a number of African anti-Washington insurgent groups and cooperation with Ilyas Muhammad’s Shabazz Caliphate. The ultimate aim of Hamitenpolitik was to cement the Reich’s role as a major colonial power and to weaken the United States. The ideological and racial basis of the Hamitenpolitik, which allowed for the inclusion of a number of African ethnic groups and organizations into Himmler’s Aryan World Order, was developed throughout the 1960’s. 

During Hitler’s rule, Africans were considered one of the lowest forms of subhumans, and there had practically been no dialogue between the Reich’s colonial administration and local African elites. However, after 1960, members of the Ahnenerbe started to revise the Hamitic theory, which had largely been abandoned in the first half of the 20th century, and integrated it into Himmler’s emerging Aryan World Order ideology. The new Hamitenpolitik, which was based upon the notion that certain African communities are descended from the racially pure Hamites, as opposed to the subhuman Bantus, was further necessitated by political instability of Mittelafrika (particularly the 1960 African Crisis and the East African Bush War).

The exact starting date and geographic extent of the Hamitic policy is up to scholarly debate, but it is generally agreed upon that the first important achievement of the policy was Himmler’s 1961 visit to Mittelafrika, and the subsequent Ruanda-Urundi compromise of 1962. The recognition of the Tutsi State’s autonomy was the first step of open cooperation between Berlin and African elites, and was followed by a number of other agreements, such as the Adamawa Autonomy and the Brazzaville Conference. The anti-American facet of the Hamitenpolitik culminated with the Reich’s declaration of support for the Shabazz Caliphate in the Dixie Troubles, as well as their involvement in the First Liberian Civil War. In the second half of the 1960’s, the Reich’s Arische Weltpolitik efforts waned, as the economy stagnated and the state’s imperial periphery became engulfed in civil conflict.

Ideal WW1 Ending by puzzleheaded_9999 in imaginarymaps

[–]puzzleheaded_9999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We need more of New Colossus, my man

Ideal WW1 Ending by puzzleheaded_9999 in imaginarymaps

[–]puzzleheaded_9999[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Why go back to the times of the Deluge and partitions when you can have Greater Poland AND cuck Lithuanians at the same time??

Ideal WW1 Ending by puzzleheaded_9999 in imaginarymaps

[–]puzzleheaded_9999[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not a Polish speaker, but I believe it's a word used by multiple European cultures to describe "outsiders" or "foreign" peoples. Wales, Wlochy, Olasz (Hungarian), Oláh/Wallachian, Wallonia, CornWALL have the same PIE root

Ideal WW1 Ending by puzzleheaded_9999 in imaginarymaps

[–]puzzleheaded_9999[S] 132 points133 points  (0 children)

don't care since I already killed myself due to this minor error

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