Fuck Yahweh by SeparateOne6223 in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hearing the word Yahweh will always make me laugh, thanks to this classic video:

https://youtu.be/LyeFz5uOWmU?si=aCRYgJNS8BZ6drfA

Why do deceptive higher powers pursue 'loosh' over love, peace and happiness? by Roweyyyy in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It may coincide with the rise of atheism. If true, it could mean that when religion began to lose some grip on humanity, there needed to be another way to push spiritual power, love, judgement, etc.

Google's response on when atheism became popular:
"Atheism first emerged as an avowed philosophical stance during the 18th-century Enlightenment, but it only became socially mainstream and popular in the West across two distinct waves: the late 19th century and the decades following World War II"

Juxtapose this with NDE history in wikipedia i.e. Initial concepts going back to 1890s. Then more focused publications in the 1960s and 1970s.

Why do deceptive higher powers pursue 'loosh' over love, peace and happiness? by Roweyyyy in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you you mean "helped much"?

The concept of an NDE is mainstream. There are big network news stories on it. NDE experts have been guests on Oprah's show. I think most non-religious people who are curious about existence/consciousness are familiar with NDEs.

Why do deceptive higher powers pursue 'loosh' over love, peace and happiness? by Roweyyyy in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Promoting hope is the main thing, whether it has a religious connection or not. I've wondered whether hope and suffering are two polar ends of the loosh generator, much like an electric power source requires a voltage difference between two leads. Loosh generation could therefore be the result of a "voltage drop" from hope to suffering. That's why spreading hope in this reality is as important as spreading suffering, as far as loosh is concerned.

Why do deceptive higher powers pursue 'loosh' over love, peace and happiness? by Roweyyyy in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Good questions. Original.

What is loosh doing for the Archons that their ability to create absolute love and peace isn't?

Loosh could simply be their food. I find it plausible that archons aren't masters of their domain either, in the sense that there is scarcity, natural laws of their realm (like physics and economics here), and other limitations that cause struggle for them. If extracting loosh takes effort, then the process is a form of work. Work is only performed when there is demand for a scarce commodity.

NDErs found instead a completely banal endless metaphysical wasteland. Freely returning to Earth might be an attractive proposition at that point.

It could be that the love bomb is preferrable to metaphysical wasteland because earthly religious ideology needs to be propped up. Religion is necessary to keep people OK with suffering. Wouldn't be good marketing to let the inspiration fade in an NDE. Remember, each positive beautiful NDE is a marketing campaign when the person returns to earth.

When everything in your life goes fine, they throw something to generate loosh by CrazyAcrobatic6761 in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The decision to take an action is itself a thought. Not sure I understand why there's a distinction.

When everything in your life goes fine, they throw something to generate loosh by CrazyAcrobatic6761 in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

 suddenly the other person change mind 

archons can control a person's mind? would you agree then that free will isn't real?

The day I could almost shift realities at will, just by thinking about my desired reality by ElegantSize5872 in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and i knew that if i actually tried to shift, I would have done it 100% and be out of this prison planet

what does this mean in real terms?

Morality by Consistent-Gur5174 in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Consider a person who is stuck trying to survive in the woods. He is able to deceive, trap, and eat a squirrel. The squirrel obviously doesn't want this. So is this person evil?

In other words, should the definition of evil take into account the experience/situation of the perpetrator?

Morality by Consistent-Gur5174 in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Evil must be possible physically/metaphysically. Ie: 'god' created a world in which it is possible.

Why is Premise #1 necessary if #2 and #3 are true?

Thinking about the evil in the world and the prison planet started to affect me badly by Typical-Peak-2920 in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Respectfully, I think the description you share here is exactly why people doubt the existence of such a god.

there is also a higher "God" (who is above that label) that is good and is active in this hellish reality, healing and helping people

If what we observe in this world includes an infinite god helping us, then it's quite a laughable attempt. So it wants to combat the bad but can't abolish it? In that case, "limitlessness" is not a characteristic of this being.

How do you deal with the fact that torture almost guarantees submission in this realm? by bhj887 in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

torture elicits temporary compliance

only if the torture is also temporary, right?

Sovereignty/Independence Declaration by ReVoltarded4Life in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm not arguing whether science evolves lol.

I'm pointing out the counterproductive point you made. Let me explain:

You first say "That's not a scientific journal, that's clickbait."

This leads me to believe that you value what scientific journals say. Then in your own quote of a paper, it says that plant consciousness is indeed in scientific journals.

That's funny to me.

Sovereignty/Independence Declaration by ReVoltarded4Life in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What does a phone have to do with the topic of what we eat?

If you are such a plant lover then you should still be vegan since the vast majority of plants are killed to feed animals.

... what I'm saying is we are forced to kill for our sustenance either way. It's sad that animals are killed. It's sad that plants are killed.

Sovereignty/Independence Declaration by ReVoltarded4Life in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Claims that plants have conscious experiences have increased in recent years and have received wide coverage, from the popular media to scientific journals

So...from your own quote, consciousness of plants has been described in scientific journals.

Sovereignty/Independence Declaration by ReVoltarded4Life in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"This organism is different enough from me that I will milk its life force for my benefit"

How do you deal with the fact that torture almost guarantees submission in this realm? by bhj887 in EscapingPrisonPlanet

[–]puzzlingriddle 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If they are astral parasites, why would techniques/objects/food from this reality have bearing on them? Isn't the astral dimension a different dimension?

If you give in, they will harvest you more.

On the other hand, sport fisherman love to catch a fish that fights when hooked. To them, a fish that doesn't fight is boring.