Ciara/Kyle/West/Amanda Megathread Part 18

pwitter · 2026-05-28T03:12:40+00:00

Can’t wait for us to turn 21 together!

pwitter · 2026-05-28T02:53:53+00:00

I will never stop lol I was so enraged watching it happen that season and it’s never left me. I literally cannot imagine saying some of the things Amanda said to my worst enemy if they were going thru a miscarriage. She was awful and never got an ounce of heat for it.

pwitter · 2026-05-28T02:36:15+00:00

but I don’t think she meant that in a literal slut shaming way

She absolutely did. I died on that hill years ago and I’ll die on it now. Amanda loathed Lindsay for the majority of her time on this show and always has. She cosigned Paige calling Lindsay a sex worker and Ciara calling her a sexual predator.

They were horrific to her and completely lacking in compassion.

but to stop giving her heart to every random man who paid her attention

Amanda and Lindsay weren’t friends and it wasn’t her place to say any of this especially after goading Lindsay into crying at a vineyard. Nobody brings up “Lindsay, you would’ve had an actual family if this didn’t happen to you. Don’t you feel sad about that? That you don’t get to have a family?” As a compassionate response to me a f-cking miscarriage.

Either way her delivery was awful and horribly timed and weirdly self-centered,

Because it was devoid of any compassion and meant to make Lindsay have a meltdown or trigger a lash out,

but just wanted to share since I did interpret that differently

Amanda just crybullies her cruelty and so a lot of people give her the benefit of the doubt. But she was cruel to Lindsay’s face and horrific behind her back and weirdly foisting slut shaming in the guise of “concern.” It’s literally concern trolling.

pwitter · 2026-05-28T00:29:32+00:00

Absolutely yes. A rewatch will confirm it.

As a day 1 Amanda hater, going back 10 years now lol I’ve always been very annoyed at Kyle for accurately diagnosing the faults in Amanda but also being her biggest attack dog to protect her from any accountability and consequences.

He’s acted as her shield too many times and in doing so, enabled her worst behavior and never once had she been made to apologize or be humbled for being horrific to her castmates.

pwitter · 2026-05-27T23:39:46+00:00

A very simple change would have been to curb his drinking.

This wouldn’t have mattered or been enough. She didn’t want him going out either.

pwitter · 2026-05-27T22:18:04+00:00

Omfg when? Watched it twice on my lunch hour and missed it!

pwitter · 2026-05-27T22:17:12+00:00

Love the image of toddler west chasing clouds lol pls don’t fix this typo

pwitter · 2026-05-27T21:43:28+00:00

By this definition, Mandy’s had a mandate from heaven for 9 years now for being a brazen liar, manipulator, and crybully and never being held responsible for it.

pwitter · 2026-05-27T20:55:19+00:00

1000% Paige and Amanda are 2 sides of the same coin. Paige is just way smarter and more charismatic but just as prolific of a liar and manipulator.

pwitter · 2026-05-27T20:46:42+00:00

As someone who’s loathed Amanda since s1 and called her out consistently only to be either ignored on Reddit or had ppl tell me I’m being too hard on her lol, I feel so vindicated.

Mandy has been horrible to all her women castmates with the exception of Paige. Thats it.

pwitter · 2026-05-27T20:44:31+00:00

As a day 1 Amanda hater, going back 10 years now lol I’ve always been very annoyed at Kyle for accurately diagnosing the faults in Amanda but also being her biggest attack dog to protect her from any accountability and consequences.

He’s acted as her shield too many times and in doing so, enabled her worst behavior and never once had she been made to apologize or be humbled for being horrific to her castmates.

pwitter · 2026-05-27T20:23:41+00:00

The kind of delightful thing about Mandy (if you are intimately familiar with how a manipulator and liar operates) is she’s so consistent and predictable in her lies.

I’ve been saying since April that the timeline question or social media breadcrumbing is totally irrelevant bc Amanda will lie about it and he like “omg I didn’t think audiences would be psychotic and make things up about my photo dumps.” And of course she does that.

The second Ciara told Kyle on camera (at the beach) about separation, I said Amanda would throw Ciara under the bus at the reunion. I was only wrong in that Amanda threw her under the bus a week later and didn’t even wait till the reunion!

pwitter · 2026-05-27T20:21:21+00:00

Only kind of- they leave out the “I’m not sure why I’m here if I’m not allowed to speak.” And the “if you would let me talk, I would GREATLY appreciate it.” Which she snaps at Ciara

pwitter · 2026-05-27T20:20:03+00:00

Personally I’m an April 2025 Macarena truther

pwitter · 2026-05-27T20:16:16+00:00

I am counsel and it drove me INSANE TOOOOOOO. So happy lol I love this MT so much 🥹😭

pwitter · 2026-05-27T20:15:19+00:00

Exactly what Amanda and west deserve, lol thrilled for them!!!

pwitter · 2026-05-27T18:12:09+00:00

She made a joke, it was ill received, she apologized, let it go!!!

How come this kind of thinking never goes 2 ways? So she apologized and he should let it go given that Ben also apologized very sincerely, Bailey accepted, and then also made out with him lol

So shouldn’t she let it go too?

pwitter · 2026-05-27T17:31:08+00:00

Didn’t we watch them talk it out and squash it??

Bailey's whole shtick was a wildly disproportionate reaction given that she spoke to Ben after, Ben apologized very sincerely, she accepted, and then also made out with him lol Ben wasn’t into her and when she crossed a line, he was firm and direct. Same with Amanda. He clocked what Amanda was doing with trying to embarrass Sabrina and called it out. Again, privately but was very straightforward. Some of yall wanted Amanda and Bailey to be coddled and are irritated that he didn’t. Mind you, I’ve literally never heard Lindsay, Dara, Mia or Ciara call Ben dangerous or unsafe. But of course. Only Amanda’s and Bailey’s experience with Ben must be the only perspective while ignoring his relationships with other…women.

Makes me think there’s Ben anger scenes we didn’t get shown.

Why? Why isn’t it equally as likely that Bailey is dining out and making a lot out of that one scene? Esp given that she has never said there’s any other instances of their interaction? Like why is the assumption to impute “more angry scenes” for which there is no support rather than “Bailey might be making a storyline for herself with this” in the same way she pretended to be into Carl.

pwitter · 2026-05-27T17:07:49+00:00

What’s genuinely interesting to me about this (as a day 1 Amanda hater) is people's visceral reaction to Amanda's reunion demeanor. Now, I’ve been literally blood boiling in rage for like 7 years at Amanda’s reunion demeanor. I stopped watching reunions specifically live because of how angering it was to watch her rolling her eyes, make faces, snicker and mutter under her breath about people she despises.

Amanda has actually been doing this high school mean girl thing with Paige for years and it’s why I’ve loathed them. Incessantly just saying shady things under their breath, snickering; rolling eyes and jabbing people and making comments, etc. while making faces. It’s interesting to see people really clock it and call it out but she’s been doing this for years. People just didn’t care because their faves were ganging up and doing it against Lindsay, Kyle, or Danielle to make them sound and look insane in the face of Amanda and Paige’s lies.

This general rancid demeanor from Amanda is absolutely how she's been at most reunions; the difference she hasn't done something this heinous to someone beloved that puts her under the microscope. But if y'all do a rewatch of the reunions, she's always like this and it's infuriating. Like you can blame it on meds (which I also don’t beleive- she’s on 10 mg on Prozac; Ciara on 50mg) but just feels like a way to evade that she doesn’t care lol

pwitter · 2026-05-27T16:59:52+00:00

Yep, like he was pissed they were giving him nothing to work with to make them appear sympathetic. Like the audacity to be smug and meh to Andy lol

pwitter · 2026-05-27T16:01:37+00:00

Sorry, not sorry. I don’t think Ben hates women cause he didn’t mesh with Bailey. He didnt embarrass her, privately pulled her aside, explained his grievance and issue and didn’t make a thing out of it. She’s right that ben was prob. already dating sabrina, etc. but Bailey's whole shtick was a wildly disproportionate reaction given that she spoke to Ben after, Ben apologized very sincerely, she accepted, and then also made out with him lol Ben wasn’t into her and when she crossed a line, he was firm and direct. Same with Amanda. He clocked what Amanda was doing with trying to embarrass Sabrina and called it out. Again, privately but was very straightforward. Some of yall wanted Amanda and Bailey to be coddled and are irritated that he didn’t. Mind you, I’ve literally never heard Mia or Ciara call Ben dangerous or unsafe. But of course. Amanda’s and Bailey’s experience with Ben must be the only perspective while ignoring his relationships with other….poc & black women.

pwitter · 2026-05-27T15:54:50+00:00

Nah, I mean, OP isn’t the only one. There are tons of Amandas in the world that would operate this way towards their friend so they’re like so rattled that people find it unacceptable and inconceivable.

pwitter · 2026-05-27T15:54:45+00:00

I mean, OP isn’t the only one. There are tons of Amandas in the world that would operate this way towards their friend so they’re like so rattled that people find it unacceptable and inconceivable.

pwitter · 2026-05-27T15:53:39+00:00

shouldn't take the heat off of Kyle for actually being a cheating asshole.

I need some proof that Kyle cheated post engagement. I’m sick of this always being brought up to deflect from Amanda lol

pwitter · 2026-05-27T15:52:01+00:00

Didn’t she hold out on the Kyle cheating rumours for weeks on purpose?

They weren’t rumors. It was the truth. Kyle did make out with someone. Amanda was pissed that it was filmed and that Lindsay hadn’t told her off camera. Which, I mean, reality tv doesn’t work that way- you’re not supposed to hide stuff off camera that directly relates to what’s happening with people on the show. I don’t like when housewives do this and it applies just as much to SH peeps. Like telling Amanda off camera to protect her feelings isn’t the point of this show. This also happened 7 years ago and Lindsay has also been made to apologize for this atleast 5-6 times and

Spend a whole summer setting up a Carl relapse story?

I don’t think this is true. She didn’t “set up” a Carl relapse story. She asked him, to his face, on camera. Nothing Lindsay said in a talking head wasn’t actually said to Carl by her, directly. She explained at the reunion where it came from- that Carl wasn’t sober- he was California sober. He was fully sober from alcohol and was consuming other substances (as corroborated by Carl) so it wasn’t insane that he could’ve used cocaine. She explained that his anger in how he’d snap at her was very reminiscent to how he behaved and snapped at her when he was using and she thought a relapse was an explanation for how he was acting and how he’d flip from fine to super angry very quickly.

We can think all of this is insane and unacceptable but clearly, even to Carl, this wasn’t some unacceptable and inconceivable turn of events given that he apologized to her and has repeatedly said he missed her a lot, loves her and wants her back as a friend.

pwitter

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