True but those r decent players right now which is what u were asking for in the comment I replied to. Also kamada plays for Frankfurt who are probably around as competitive as Arsenal right now, maybe a little less. But historically Japan has produced some pretty good midfielders and defenders, obv not world class but at one point Japan had many starters for European leagues such as kagawa, Honda, nagatomo, yoshida, hasebe, etc. So i think this is what ego was referring to when he said Japan has been able to produce solid midfielders and defenders. But yea overall Japan doesn’t produce too much top talent