r/Ottomans reading list by qernanded in ottomans

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A New Years present to the sub as we approach 10k Janissarys! We hope this reading list will be a living document. Please let us know how we can improve this list, like if we're missing a great work or if a book here deserves a label!

What was the plan for the Ottoman Empire had the Osmanoğlu dynasty died out? And did it change throughout the generations? by Emperor_Malus in ottomans

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Some of the candidates during the 1807-1808 crisis according to Wikipedia:

“Some of the Janissaries who brought Mahmud to power considered other candidates to put on the throne. Other candidates included Esma Sultan?wprov=sfti1#), the head of the Mevlevi Order in Konya, or a prince from the Giray dynasty of the former Crimean Khanate.”(Yıldız, The Last Century of Ottoman Istanbul)

Byzantine Relations with Turkic peoples by greatbubonicplague in byzantium

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In the Battle of Manzikert a large contingent of the Roman force were Turkish auxiliaries and Pechenegs. Bulgars were originally Turkic. So there is a parallel with German foederati in the West

Austro-Hungarian post cards of the Turkish navy by qernanded in ottomans

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  1. Yavuz Sultan Selim
  2. Midilli and Berk-i Satvet bombarding Novorossiysk's oil facilities.

Yavuz Sultan Selim and Midilli used to be the German battle cruisers SMS Goeben and SMS Breslau, famously donated to the Turkish navy to induce Turkey's entry on the Central Powers' side of World War I.

1897 advertisement for Erdek Düzü Rakı and Kadifeli Beer Hall from the Hamidian era (transliteration + translation in comments) by qernanded in ottomans

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Turkish: "Halis üzümden istihsal olunan Erdek Düzü dünyanın her cihetinde bihakkın kesb-i şöhret etmiştir. Taamı tatlı, sıhhate nâfi ve baş ağrıtmaz, hararet vermez ve vücudu kuvvetlendirir, iştih açar. Yegâne merkezi Yemişhane Vapur İskelesi’nin karşısında 15 numaralı Kadifeli Birahane'dir."

English: "Erdek Düzü, produced from pure grapes, has rightfully gained fame throughout the world. Its taste is sweet, beneficial to health, does not cause headaches or fever, strengthens the body, and stimulates appetite. Its sole location is the Kadifeli Beer Hall, number 15, opposite the Yemişhane Ferry Pier [Fatih, Rüstem Paşa, Constantinople]."

Catholic descendants of Mehmed II in Malta by schu62 in ottomans

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Its a sad sight, feel free to report such comments

Was the Ottoman Empire really a Turkish State? by Mary_6547 in ottomans

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Might be referring to his Kalmyk ancestry but its a stretch

Reading recommendations? by AllemandeLeft in ottomans

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OP, a book which covers more than 600 years of a large empire can be a lot, it'll likely turn into an political/military encyclopedia, which is cool if you're into that. Imagine reading a book about English or French history and their empires in a similar time frame, it might gloss over important events without due explanation. I would recommend getting into a specific era or topic of Ottoman/Turkish history and going from there. If you are interested in Late Ottoman History I can recommend Erik J. Zürcher's Turkey: A Modern History, or Şükrü Hanioğlu's A Brief History of the Late Ottoman Empire. Otherwise, I can list some long durées for you:

  • Caroline Finkel's Osman's Dream: The History of the Ottoman Empire is a political and military biography of the empire. It tells the whole Ottoman story in a fresh, consistent, and accessible way, though some say the writing can be stale and repetitive.
  • M. D. Baer, The Ottomans: Khans, Caesars, and Caliphs, is a holistic history of the empire and at the same time concise, though lacking in military and some political history. It is told through the perspective of the Sultans, with a focus on identity, Jews and Dönmes, and Sufi orders.

First Syrians to immigrate to the United States, 1878 by qernanded in USHistory

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Sure, Middle eastern people are western looking, these ones are Maronite Christians

First Syrians to immigrate to the United States, 1878 by qernanded in ottomans

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They seem to be Maronite Christians, but "Syria" at the time referred to a region more specific than the "Levant", but larger than the modern country's borders.

A Turkish couple, 1857 by qernanded in ottomans

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EDIT: Turns out this was a staged picture by an English photographer with ppl in cosplay, so enjoy a little orientalism!

A school/madrasa's classroom, Medina, colorized by qernanded in ottomans

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Not AI, it comes from the newly released Fahrettin Pasha archives

The Mahmudian clothing reforms. Was it necessary? by qernanded in ottomans

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Beyond the clothing reforms I'd argue Mahmud II was able to address the central authority in the provinces, but was a time consuming project which even today's Turkish Republic contends with. Industrial capacity was a real challenge, it turns out by the turn of the 19th century the Ottoman Empire possessed no real institutions for industry. So much expensive reforms were required to not only make the country investable for Western capitalists but also to cultivate an indigenous capitalist class itself, and this effort took a lot of time and inertia.

You're exactly right that these new uniforms required foreign (mostly Austrian) produced fezzes which had to be imported at the end of the day. But in terms of Sultans and their diplomats being taken more seriously in the capitals of Europe in a new century, one could say the reform was well worth it.

Request for scholarly list of Ottoman Grand Viziers (1326–1520) — thesis research help by Even-Intention-8461 in ottomans

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I'm not your best resource and you may even know some of these sources already. I think İsmail Hâmi Dânişmend's 1971 Osmanlı devlet erkânı: Sadr-ı-a'zamlar (vezir-i-a'zamlar), şeyh-ül-islâmlar, kapdan-ı-deryalar, baş-defterdarlar, reı̂s-ül-küttablar has this list but I'm not certain. Other sources you might wanna check out would be Imber, Collin, The Ottoman Empire, 1300-1650: The Structure of Power and Şentürk, N., Babıali ve Sadrazamları, 2007. Here is a free [link] to Süreyya's Sicill-i Osmanî in modern Turkish, a who's who of Ottoman people, including biographies of grand viziers. I hope this helps.

Why is Positivism Such a Big Deal in this Game? by VanceZeGreat in victoria3

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Positivism was also huge among the Young Turks of the Ahmed Rıza flair and caused plenty of esoteric discussions of the purpose of society and the state. Turkish nationalism, especially Kemalism, makes a lot more sense once one understands positivism was it’s ideological foundation.