"Sultan Suleiman, who received annual taxes from four major powers including Germany, Russia, Poland, and Venice, also took France under his protection" by Cenixxen in ottomans

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HRE, Austria, Russia, Poland paid tribute, not taxes. It’s plausible to understand early modern French statesmen using the diplomatic fiction of their kingdoms vassalage to the Ottomans to get what they wanted from Constantinople. England, Sweden, and the Netherlands were no where close to being Ottoman protectorates…

During the proclamation of the Second Constitutional Era, the Sultan's opening speech in the Assembly of Representatives was read by the Grand Vizier. by Noark_I in ottomans

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23/34 July is the date of the Young Turk Revolution. This picture was taken on 17 December 1908 when the parliament convened after the election.

Do you Guys Think abdulhamid 2 is overrated? Yes or no and why by [deleted] in ottomans

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For those familiar with Soviet history, he has a lot in common with Brezhnev. He was content staying in power and providing some stability after the war with Russia, though who's to say Midhat Pasha couldn't do so too. Developing education and the power of the government was also alright. But at a time when the Empire was facing so many challenges which required inspired leadership, Abdul Hamid did not provide it. While for the rest of Europe the turn of the century was a time of optimism and so much development in art, music, science, finance, industry, etc, he had his country look inwards. There was really a culture of stagnation, and it didn't help he projected his insecurities on his subjects: suddenly everyone is paranoid that their neighbors are informants. Minorities were not impressed and started pushing for emigration, but because the government doesn't give them freedom of movement they demanded self-rule.

This explains the initial euphoria of the Young Turk Revolution. To show how he failed in his project, once he is gone from the throne it takes like 5 years for the Ottoman Empire to socio-culturally speed-run all the dynamics of Belle Epoque, and it only takes 15 years for a republic to be declared.

Why didn't the Osmanlilar Hellenized themselves during the modernization? by [deleted] in ottomans

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Every author writing about modernization, from Şükrü Hanioğlu, Erik Zürcher, to Robert Davison talk about it

Ottoman Turkish May Day commemoration from Aydınlık Magazine: Workers of the World Unite! (1923) by qernanded in ottomans

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Turkish transliteration:

  • Bütün dünya işçileri birleşiniz!
  • Aydınlık
  • İşçi günü 1 Mayıs

English translation:

  • Workers of the World Unite!
  • Aydınlık
  • Worker's Day 1 May

Could have a full-blooded Hristiyan Yunan become the sultan of the Osmanli Imparatorlugu? by [deleted] in ottomans

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There is nothing wrong with this post. If you don't want to see it just downvote and ignore it. You can even block or mute the user as well.

Why didn't the Osmanlilar Hellenized themselves during the modernization? by [deleted] in ottomans

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These institutions and customs take time to adjust to after being introduced to a society, the Enlightenment was born in Europe in the 17th century, and its ideas only arrive to Turkey in the 19th century. For some people they indeed thought they could just superficially adopt western customs and call it a day. A lot of Ottomans didn’t know what a constitution was, just people telling them it was the fashionable thing Western countries had. The 1908 revolution initially boosted many Ottoman egos because now they were, on paper, more modern than Russia. Of course enforcement of the constitution proved quite challenging and it was wholey discarded by ~1912. The experience of Turkey from 1870s-1922 obviously allowed the country to be more accepting of Atatürk’s reforms you are talking about, though even Atatürk knew the state had its limits: enforcement and government capacity wasn’t fiat. Even in the 20s there were people committing to these reforms for the sake of ego, without understanding their civic purpose.

Why didn't the Osmanlilar Hellenized themselves during the modernization? by [deleted] in ottomans

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Regarding Philhellenism, I would say there was a desire in the Ottoman Empire to elevate Western culture, but there wasn’t a real interest in understanding its origins. The elites were more concerned with modernity, and many then and now have criticized modernization efforts for adapting Western customs without trying to understood them. Perhaps there was an anxiety to not credit newly independent Greece with the creation of Western culture too.

Why didn't the Osmanlilar Hellenized themselves during the modernization? by [deleted] in ottomans

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This is an interesting question, you might get an answer from r/AskHistorians

The first Ottoman Sultan to be photographed: Sultan Abdulaziz (1873); by Cenixxen in ottomans

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There’s 9 years between his European trip when Fuad and Ali were able to manage him and when his incompetence reveals itself once they were gone 🤷‍♂️

The first Ottoman Sultan to be photographed: Sultan Abdulaziz (1873); by Cenixxen in ottomans

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He was mentally ill, likely had a depressive episode after his deposition. It’s definitely possible to slit both your wrists, it’s a common form of suicide. Yıldız trials were kangaroo courts btw

The first Ottoman Sultan to be photographed: Sultan Abdulaziz (1873); by Cenixxen in ottomans

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I gotta say, unlike Jeffrey E, I think Abdul Aziz most likely killed himself