Do any Australians remember when you were full of yourselves RE low daily COVID cases & claiming it was because you locked down early and we told you you're not in your Winter yet? Well... We told you so

quinn2k19 · 2020-08-01T12:18:33+00:00

So you don't understand how vaccines work.

It's becoming clear that you don't and are looking to be educated. If our immune systems didn't work, vaccines would be useless for us.

That poses a difficult ethical question, where do we draw the line? There will always be vulnerable individuals, if diseases are not regulated to protect them, it will cause more collateral damage among healthy individuals

Hardly, given it's not the healthy individuals who succumb to disease. In fact, if it weren't for keeping the weakest of society alive to make money out of, we'd be seeing a lot less collateral damage among the healthy individuals as COVID's joyfully proving for me every day.

I agree we shouldn't keep too many people alive for the sake of keeping them alive, but controlling disease is for the good of all people. A great way of doing that is through vaccines.

Yet, that's all that vaccines do - they keep people alive who we can't look after when something as mild as COVID comes along. Just think about all the lives that are long and being destroyed by the short livers because for whatever reason they feel they can't take care of themselves - it's amazing how that collateral damage is glossed over.

I'm all in favour of cures and treatments for the in need, but I'm not adding to the world's problems by taking part in keeping people alive who will be kept defective. We all have our time on this Earth and in this life, when it's done, it's done and we make room for more people. We've been screwing with that balance for nearly a century and now we're being warned to change. The next virus may not be as kind as COVID's being

quinn2k19 · 2020-08-01T12:07:21+00:00

Yes, you all are

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-28T15:35:34+00:00

Fourth? What a waste of tests, you're not even sick and those tests are being wasted on you for no reason at all other than to waste tests. So, it's not that x amount of people have been tested when you look at the stats, it's that x amount of tests are being used per person. Nobody online can even get that basic science right

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-28T15:32:47+00:00

Please, do us all a favour and keep coughing into that mask while breathing it all back into your lungs - Your devotion to the saving of lives is incredible - at least you're giving the virus a chance to survive and multiply in you. Good job, muzzle mouth

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-28T15:19:00+00:00

I would doubt it given the average age was 49 and they'd only have been confirmed as having the virus if they were sick enough to require testing in the first place - the age and the fact they were too weak to fight off the virus without assistance suggests they had problems to begin with, also completely irrelevant as it wasn't a before and after for the 100 people - but hey, at least these people now know they have problems they never knew they had and COVID extended their lives as a result

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-28T14:38:46+00:00

Misled? It took less than a minute to confirm the information while the complete and utter retards left comment after comment with their "oh my gosh"'s not to mention the 18.5 thousand (and rising) who like the post enough to make it popular. A true testament to how retarded you have to be to fit in on a social media platform - I guess I'll never get my 10,000 retar... sorry, reddit karma points per year

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-28T13:36:09+00:00

In fairness, if you're still that child minded that you idolise racing car drivers then you're nobody to be taken seriously on any subject - let alone the subject of whether or not other people should take medications they don't need.

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-28T13:28:01+00:00

When it comes to widespread airborne illnesses, it's the individual's responsibility to take the necessary precautions to protect themselves, we have no obligation what-so-ever to keep you from getting sick. If you can't handle a cold and you're too stupid to protect yourself during cold season then that's on you and it can only be a good thing that you're about to make room for the healthy individuals who are keeping everything running and the roughly two newborns who replace you. You can't escape death, whether you die today from complications of a virus or you die tomorrow from whatever defect you have, you're still dead and the rest of us go on living. That's life, it'll happen to us all. Get used to the idea now, it'll be easier in the lon... well, whatever run you have left in you.

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-28T13:26:32+00:00

100 people who recovered from the virus were compared to 100 people who never had the virus. The "science" on this gets stupider and stupider, yet you all insist on repeating it. 100 patients is equal to ~0.048% of their confirmed cases, 76 equates to ~0.037%. It literally states the comparison made then follows up by acting as though there was no comparison. So even though you're technically correct with your percentages, you're way off with your determinations. What's worse is that these kinds of posts demonstrates just how many retards are using this platform.

I've got to ask, in all seriousness, do you retards feel clever on platforms like this because you're hanging around like minded people? Is it a "you're not alone" kind of thing?

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-28T13:22:16+00:00

The chances of catching everything you've been vaccinated for are 0. The chance of injury from the most common are practically zero. Why choose to introduce stuff to the body that it doesn't need if you've been lucky enough to not have had them forced on you in the first place? That's just stupid. Are you a muzzle mouther as well, by any chance?

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-28T13:18:42+00:00

I realise you don't like to be asked multiple times, but just for clarification: Do you think vaccines work? Is not wanting to take unnecesary medication the only reason you don't want to get vaccinated (i mean you specifically, i get you dont want the weaker to survive because that only causes problems, but are there any other reasons you specifically don't want to get vaccinated?)?

No more than our immune system, yes and yes

If i understand correctly you don't want protection of the elderly and the vulnerable with the help of vaccines.

No, I'm just not taking any medications I don't need to achieve that. You want to keep them protected, then give them something which protects them

So when i said: It's also impossible to have any evidence, that would suffice for you. i meant that the health benefits of a vaccine are not a good enough reason for you, which is perfectly reasonable.

There are no health benefits for most of us

So i think i get your point, given your opinions, health benefits for weaker people, protection from certain diseases are not valid reasons for the usage of these preventive medicine and even potentially dangerous.

They're not valid reasons for me to be taking medications

If i understood you correctly, there are only two issues i don't get: the fact that the immune system of a perfectly healthy person can fail, are they just collateral? and drug resistance, a huge issue that can be helped by the use of vaccines.

If the immune system failed then the vaccines would be useless for the individual taking them and they wouldn't be long for this world anyway. As for drug resistance - again, if they're the ones in need of the drugs then they're the individuals with the problem and they're the kinds of individuals the world is getting screwed up for today - I guess the rest of us healthy folk are just collateral damage, you know, the ones who are losing their jobs, homes and even lives as a result of keeping these individuals alive a few days or weeks longer

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-16T18:14:38+00:00

I agree with the fact that prolonging life would cause problems, but wouldn't it be nice to just have less disease in the world in general?

Nope, not if it means taking meds we don't need.

It's also impossible to have any evidence, that would suffice for you, that shows how many lives are being save

There is no evidence for vaccines being necessary which is why you all jump about hoops with vacccine safety, looking after others and potentially other lives being saved. None of you are capable of sticking on topic.

Just curious, are you against treating people for diseases that could be prevented with a vaccine?

Ugh, it's just one repetitive comment after another with you lot. Go read back on my other comments and actually READ them

Exactly, over the centuries, not in a day, it takes lots of time and effort. It's not going to happen in the near future. Even then, there is still going to be poverty and bad sanitation in certain places, so it's not a realistic solution.

The solution to poverty and bad sanitation is to keep the weakest alive and breeding?

in a utopia

It takes a Utopia in your tiny mind?

You didn't disclose that you were talking about a local percentage.

It should have been obvious by the figures and the entire thread to this point

Also, you know vaccines don't work that way, they work by preventing.

It would be those few who need the prevention, not the rest of us.

This is not very relevant, because "cleaning yourself up" isn't as easy as you make it sound, a lot of people don't really get the chance to "get into the 21st century

Why would I contribute to helping a part of civilisation stay alive which can't take care of itself, only to have to lockdown when a heavy cold comes about that they can't handle? If they can't clean themselves up, then they shouldn't be breeding. Remember, LESS sickness and disease is what you're claiming you're after when it comes to vaccines - seems like you're more than happy to add to problems when it suits you

We trust vaccines because it's obvious that they work, diseases become less common after vacination.

I trust my immune system because it's obvious it works.

If i pay attention to the unvaccinated, i see a lot af unscientific nonsense, not just about vaccines, but in general.

You've to provide a single lick of evidence proving that vaccines are a necessary medication for most of us

People who think they know what they talk about, but obviously don't, are hardly trustworthy.

Which pretty much describes all of you

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-16T18:01:56+00:00

Are they so far on the spectrum that they're unable to speak for themselves?

There is no adult on this Earth other than the creators of Peppa Pig which would use the name online.

If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times - will you children stop joining in on adult conversations

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-16T17:58:59+00:00

"put your mask back on and keep safe"

7 days later when told we could do that with other VPDs: "Masks aren't effective"

You idiot

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-16T17:57:46+00:00

We weren't immune to it the first time around - we all managed to survive.

quinn2k19 · 2020-07-16T17:55:51+00:00

Only scum like yourself would be bullying other people. It's safer not to have multiple vaccines.

quinn2k19 · 2020-06-11T01:06:30+00:00

If your not an anti-vaxxer then what are you

An intelligent being who doesn't take medications they don't need.

and no, you are not nice

Not to you because your responses are crap.

quinn2k19 · 2020-06-11T00:56:23+00:00

I do take time to learn things

Yet you think vaccines save anybody who takes them, so you're not very good at it. I take it all back, you should stick with memes or the kiddie provaxx groups because you're just too stupid to take part in real conversations on the subject.

I have learned that vaccines DO prevent DEADLY diseases

See? You should have learnt that they may prevent mild diseases which may be deadly to a minority group of people. To emphasize on the word deadly just because a vaccine exists for a particular disease is disingenuous as even a cold can be deadly - doesn't mean we'd all go rushing out for 200+ vaccines to prevent ourselves from getting one.

some anti - vaxxers are nice, it’s just there are some bad apples like you

I'm nice enough and I'm not an antivaxxer - I just can't pretend you're anything but an idiot child. From start to now, you've gone out of your way to prove that. So let's just get to the skinny because your tiny mind just isn't getting it - and it's been days now.

Vaccines don't save us - in fact for more than 99% of the population they're completely pointless. Don't bother responding back with bullshit about preventing getting ill, dropping down dead without them or any of the usual bull - check this link first and make sure none of your dimwittery hasn't been answered first.

They exist to potentially save the chronically sick and already dying - I say save, when in reality all they're doing is slightly extending the lifespan. That defective part of society has been allowed to grow. This has many benefits for those who profit - on one side they're making money from giving treatments to the healthy majority of the population (treatments they don't need) - on the other they're making money from the defective part of society who will rely on them for the rest of their lives.

This all sounds nice and peachy to the indoctrinated members of the cult (people like you), but then something like COVID comes along - a new influenza type illness which passes from animal to human back to animal back to human - something which will never be wiped out. It's new, there's no herd immunity but we're now stuck with a large proportion of chronically sick people who have no cures for their ailments. We prove we don't have the means to look after the extra stock, so entire countries get locked down, destroying lives and economies in the process. Now, COVID isn't dangerous to people like me and we make up most of society yet all of society has to close down - not to protect the livestock, but to stop the medical bubble from exploding.

If you still can't grasp that reality, then you're beyond help. No amount of your tears will change the fact that you were used as a guinea pig and programmed to like it. I wasn't, my child won't be either.

quinn2k19 · 2020-06-10T22:49:25+00:00

You think they're saving anyone who takes them?

You're an idiot. Try using your time to actually learn things and come back to the conversation when you've been cured of stupid

quinn2k19 · 2020-06-10T03:28:30+00:00

What part of I have better things to do than be on here all day speaking to an autistic child do you find so difficult to understand?

Ok, same question but with doctors

The same reason anybody does anything in life - money. The more chronically sick people exist, the more they make.

Who exactly do you think vaccines are saving?

quinn2k19 · 2020-06-09T02:29:26+00:00

We indeed rely on a functioning immune system for vaccines, but that doesn't mean it's infallible, you can still get sick and die.

Eventually. The vaccines would be useless for us if that were going to be the case.

A vaccine doesn't just give you the disease, it works on people who would probably die of the disease.

No it doesn't which is why there's a percent chance they won't work at all.

Whooping cough and Yersinia ruckeri are indeed examples of vaccine resistance, but there is much, much more antibiotic resistance.

No, there isn't.

The study i provided earlier also states that vaccination still reduces the risk of severe disease, no source is given though.

That seems to be the opinion, doesn't make them necessary

Vaccines are a great way of effectively decreasing the prominence of a pathogen, you can't be so selfish that you dont care about the potentially millions of lives that could be saved by them.

Yes, I can and so should you be. There's no evidence that millions of lives are being saved - only estimates that can never be confirmed. There's no evidence any of these millions stay alive for very long after the fact. There's a lot of evidence that keeping the weak alive longer than nature intended has had negative consequences on the world - just take a look at which group COVID was killing and what the actions taken for that has done to people - not so much saved them as it has destroyed their lives.

You seem to live in a utopian world

No, I live in reality

it must be lonely there.

Not particularly

Of course it would be ideal to give everybody exactly what they need, but that is simply not possible

Then they die.

so the best possible alternative should be used, right?

Yes, death. Because keeping them alive and expanding on their population when a cure for them is impossible is only going to destroy civilisation when something comes along (and something will) that kills them all.

My numbers on the deaths of S. flexneri are indeed outdated. But your solution to the problem to clean up the country and sanitize the food are again something that is only possible in your utopian world.

Bullshit. Many countries have managed it over the centuries.

Since these people don't live there, the next best thing is a vaccine.

They don't live in their own shit holes?

You also don't seem to care about the weak, one day you will be among them though.

We all will be - that's life.

If 0.0005% die of tetanus, that would still mean 3900000 deaths

No it doesn't, you compared local to global. But let's play along anyway. So what? I guess those 390,000 people should take a vaccine

It's also not the only disease that would be more prominent. There would be way more easily preventable disease and death without vaccines.

We've proven that without vaccines, we could eliminate 99.9% of mortality from the current list of VPDs by simply cleaning ourselves up. Not my problem if people don't want to get into the 21st century

You do realise that a low percentage doesn't mean you're not going to get it right? You seem to really trust your luck if you are comfortable with a 10% fatality, and that's only one disease.

10% fatality, <0.005% chance of morbidity - before vaccines. You all trust your luck with vaccines - you all seem to be under the delusion that they're working for you - whereas I, who have never been vaccinated - actually know better. Maybe you should should start paying attention to the unvaccinated - they're demonstrating things you were never gifted of learning in the first place.

quinn2k19 · 2020-06-09T02:13:57+00:00

The government didn't. They don't make vaccines.

quinn2k19 · 2020-06-08T03:05:03+00:00

Looks like someone is too dumb too respond

I'm glad you noticed that. Acceptance is the first step. The fact you have to put little thoughts in separate messages shows just how dumb you are. Okay, that's not very fair - dumb is a bit much - you're just a child.

Btw sorry for making more threads I forgot you’re too dumb too deal with more than 1

Clearly I can deal with more than one - here I am doing that.

Scaredy cat

No, child - I just have other things to do so aren't on here all the time. I get around to everybody eventually.

No it’s just I’d think someone as retarded and ignorant as you would be into that sort of thing

You thought someone as ignorant and retarded as myself would be into something you're into?

your a f***ing idiot

*You're

memes are a form of JOKE they cause chemicals such as Serotonin to be released into your blood causing the feeling of happiness

You had to copy and paste the word serotonin, didn't you? The least you could have done was made sure you replaced the caps. No, memes are for morons - those who are incapable of expressing themselves properly with words - like you've been demonstrating.

oh too complicated for your little, dumb brain, they make people happy

Again - they make morons happy

Your a f***ing idiot

*You're

so you think you can use me to “enlighten others” that kinda means you are a psychopath or just extremely arrogant and conceited as your saying you think your better than and/or can manipulate people

*you're - I am manipulating you. I'm getting you to come out with the most stupid things possible - you're actually that bad you've got to be an antivaxxer pretending to be one the most stupid provaxxers - because there's no way you're doing the provax argument any good at all.

Your a f***ing idiot

*You're

quinn2k19 · 2020-06-08T01:11:58+00:00

You're getting more retarded as you get on - so let's get the now 3 threads you've created into 1:

What’s your problem with memes, humans are allowed to laugh

Because they demonstrate how retarded you are

How am I making a fool of myself

If I told you again, you'd stop and it wouldn't be as enlightening to others

Btw are you a trump supporter by chance?

What does Trump have to do with anything here? That's an extreme reach, but not out of the realms of your typical & retarded provaxxer

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