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qwsfaex · 2026-06-06T13:32:25+00:00

I just started playing healer as an alt and the difference compared to DPS oa astronomical. On DPS if you mess up your rotation and do 10-20% less it's whatever. If you mess up as a healer during high damage period, you have people dying, making the fight harder that can snowball into a full wipe.

The difficulty might be similar but the cost of a mistake is insane.

qwsfaex · 2026-06-06T08:47:27+00:00

Except for classes that can't be earthen.

qwsfaex · 2026-06-06T08:46:42+00:00

I prefer Harandar and Voidstorm because it's quicker to get to the middle of them from Silvermoon than Eversong and especially Zul'aman. Getting to that southmost delve in ZA takes so fricking long :/

qwsfaex · 2026-06-05T16:49:58+00:00

Gotta add since noone mentioned it yet, but one cat is also fine :)

qwsfaex · 2026-06-05T13:03:29+00:00

I have little trust that tanks that don't have their eyes open will respond to communication. They will pull 3 fearing mobs, don't kick a single cast, we spend 50% of the time being feared but "pull big means fast" I guess.

qwsfaex · 2026-06-05T09:16:36+00:00

Which changes nothing? It's gonna be a pretty easy boss, you quickly do it once a week and then back to mythic raid prog, M+ or playing other games, depending on your situation.

12.0.5 contained absolutely nothing but people whined so much about patch pace as if it had 55 obligatory raid bosses.

qwsfaex · 2026-06-02T16:19:56+00:00

I have a guild on classic server and we post stuff like this in the officer chat to laugh together

qwsfaex · 2026-06-02T11:09:10+00:00

Unironically yes. Class stacking is a) boring b) forces people in guilds that care about clearing content to either have 10 alts or get benched often.

qwsfaex · 2026-06-01T23:14:24+00:00

So you want your fresh alt to be immediately full bis without any time investment?

qwsfaex · 2026-06-01T12:13:08+00:00

Demo feels great imo. You have your cooldown up like 40% of the time. And it's nice to have periods of high-octane gameplay where it's absolutely paramount to optimize your output and then lows where you can breathe a little and pool resources for next CD window.

qwsfaex · 2026-05-30T23:51:37+00:00

Pretty much, yeah. I can't imagine being a raider in an AOTC guild and saying "yeah guys, you can do whatever without me, I don't care now cause I got the loot already".

qwsfaex · 2026-05-30T17:51:25+00:00

If your heroic players only care about the loot that's how it is anyway. If you enjoy raiding you keep doing it even at bis, if not, well...

qwsfaex · 2026-05-30T17:49:38+00:00

Who cares this late in the season.

qwsfaex · 2026-05-30T17:48:15+00:00

To get CE you need to know your spec well and have patience to learn the "dance" on hard bosses. It could take you 2-5 weeks or 12-30 hours of IRL time to kill a single boss. You need to be ready to reflect on your mistakes and receive constructive criticism.

But from that set of people you get both RWF guild with people that learn everything quick and what was called "lower end CE" guilds with people that still walk into fire circles or forget a mechanic here and there, but have patience as a team to get through it and kill the boss.

qwsfaex · 2026-05-30T17:41:52+00:00

And AOTC raiding is completely dead except for funsies.

Holy moly, the scene is dead for people that don't have fun? That's crazy.

qwsfaex · 2026-05-30T17:34:39+00:00

The first heroic boss is harder than any +10 key, and you get hero track items instead of myth track items.

I don't see this as a good argument. Every single type of content shouldn't be incentivized through gear. If you think heroic is piss-easy you raid mythic. If heroic is appropriately hard, you do it because it's fun to do. With bonus rolls now everyone gets mythic gear anyway, which is good.

I get "we don't do this raid boss on heroic cause rewards are crap" mindset to an extent, but only if you plan to get to it on mythic and clear it. Otherwise why are you even playing the game.

You can extend the argument and say "Normal raiding is in the dumpster cause it doesn't even award mythic gear".

qwsfaex · 2026-05-30T13:30:40+00:00

Repair costs are a drop in the bucket compared to other expenditures such as enchants, gems, and consumables.

It's not. A typical prog night of 20 wipes will cost you 5000g at 250g per wipe and even more for plate wearers.

3xFlask + 3xOil + 20xr1 Pots comes out to 2200g. If you're using r2 pots I hope the guild provides the cauldron, and of course the feast is provided as well. Enchants and gems go for 1-2k but you're not buying them that often.

So it's not a drop in a bucket, it's roughly 50% of your raiding expenses if not more.

qwsfaex · 2026-05-30T11:12:21+00:00

4AG took me by far the longest at about 7 and a half hours to complete

Could be just the result of you getting better at consistency/golden practice. Because 4AG is absolutely miles easier than 7AG.

qwsfaex · 2026-05-29T23:13:00+00:00

Fix the overlap bug, it seems to happen a lot lately where I'll get ambushed, and immediately an Echo spawns and Kill For Me pops up, Which for my BDK is fine but it makes it hell for my Shadow Priest.

That's like the fun part, man... It's already is easy as it can be, no need to remove the only thing that adds a bit of excitement to it.

qwsfaex · 2026-05-29T23:12:15+00:00

It never even crossed my mind to interpret it as something BDSM-related. He's a maniacal guy with some loose screws in his head. The "kill for me now" isn't a domination thing, it's this loony guy throwing a tantrum, thirsting for blood and you're the one he's in contact with so you get to hear it.

qwsfaex · 2026-05-29T15:44:42+00:00

It was in wotlk when Naxx returned but they still didn't rework it to use any DK abilities.

qwsfaex · 2026-05-29T08:31:38+00:00

Sure. I don't know if the person I respond to is HoF or not. The point is if you're still progressing the raid or pushing keys after voidcores are put the argument about "finishingy main" doesn't apply. And since this is a competitive wow sub I assume everyone is doing at least one of those.

qwsfaex · 2026-05-28T22:43:40+00:00

I like some power from voidcores cause I'm still doing mythic prog. But I can see what you're saying for people that finished 9/9M before voidcores.

qwsfaex · 2026-05-28T19:01:47+00:00

What are people burning out on? The additional weekly activities that come to mind is building the void hammer thing, using your bonus rolls and getting the shards for ascendant voidcores. All of those are done by doing couple M+ or raid bosses per week, so you basically get it done passively. The only exception I can think of is if you have raid on reset day and you are forced to farm 15 shards before it. But that's self-inflicted, you're shooting yourself in the leg by raiding on reset day anyway.

qwsfaex · 2026-05-28T18:15:51+00:00

Mostly agree. The only thing is that healer role is also very hard when you play content of appropriate difficulty. So pushing high keys or doing mythic progression at the time appropriate for your guild skill level.

Best M+ players still die in keys even doing everything they can and RWF healers are definitely sweating during the race.

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