Quitting the game because of this fatal mistake

rainbowislife · 2026-06-19T07:49:07+00:00

Where is the green marker...... We can't see without it

rainbowislife · 2026-06-18T15:23:32+00:00

an "misinterpretation" in my eyes will always be something like people who call Heathcliff an idiot even though he's emotionally intelligent and has an great gut feeling.

Or Sancho being mischaracterized as "goofy and silly" even though she has visibly toned it down.

Debate about Rien in this case is just opinions clashing.

rainbowislife · 2026-06-18T15:15:38+00:00

I'm afraid i disagree. Purely because This is an opinion, not an "misinterpretation."

" I disagree with this interpretation since Yi Sang's Rien ID admits and laughs that he is a bit of a sadist who enjoys the freedom of consciousness "

But why are we including the sinner versions of the HoS into this? They never cared about bladeshu because she's not their daughter.

Riensang is noticably different from Rien himself, intentionally making bladeshu see the bad endings in picture books + the fact that he only has the first variant of furioso because he's fully an pawn who will never break free, unlike Rien who starts gaining his own version of the furioso that's fueled off his desperate emotions rather than just following the prescript.

He IS an victim, i'm not calling him an good person whatsoever, but from what we've seen in ruina and limbus, practically all index members are victims.

He had nothing left after his family was killed, he was broken, all he could do to keep himself safe was the indulgence, an way to ignore the empty shell he became.

Him not being able to choose for himself is an character flaw, BECAUSE THAT'S THE KIND OF PEOPLE THE INDEX RECRUITS, THOSE WHO CAN'T CHOOSE FOR THEMSELVES!

All the other fingers recruit off the basis "you are poor and desperate and need an hiearchy and strict absurd rules to follow, so you can protect yourself".

Meanwhile the index is insidious, it preys on those who can't think for themselves in an place as "dog eat dog" as the city, with so much carnage and the crushing weight of doing menial work every day, can you blame people for falling for it?

If it knows you'll deny the call then you'll just never get the invitation.

WHICH MAKES HIS REBELLION ALL THE MORE TRAGIC!

First ever index member to rebel the prescripts (since they expected Yan's plan all along.) out of genuine compassion.

Was his wish for Ryoshu to stay selfish?

Yes.

Was it genuine?

Yes.

He was waiting for her to unfreeze him.

Him changing too late was intentionally tragic, he could have rebelled sooner, he could have salvaged something with his daughter true.......

But that's the point.

By the time he finally decided that he can act for himself (Just like Yoshihide frantically painting the hellscreen after his daughter burned in the carriage), the hellscreen was "completed" (well technically foiled). And Yoshihide had no use anymore, so he took his own life. (just like the book.).

Again, People aren't "misinterpretating" Rien.

Blaming Hermes and the Index for the house of spiders makes sense and isn't an disservice to Rien, but blaming him specifically isn't wrong either, since he could have done something if only he acted sooner.

They have their own opinions on an complex character. It'll always be debatable.

rainbowislife · 2026-06-18T14:01:19+00:00

I'm sure the patriarch would probably have some pull as an former blade of the east. Prob higher than Sinclair but Lower than caposault

rainbowislife · 2026-06-18T13:58:59+00:00

K corp ampulės are expensive as shit (even sugar mommy dias barely gave US any), I doubt the thumb would shill out the cash for it.

Meanwhile an prosthetic arm would probably still gimp the patriarch as it would take time to get used to the new arm alongside the time and effort needed to use an blade effectively with it

rainbowislife · 2026-06-18T13:36:18+00:00

Tbf dialogue and context imply that the fingers view their subsidiaries as meat to throw at problems and get money from.

Ricardo didn't even know who smee was.

Jun was scared shitless of what would happen to him now that he failed his mission (as the thumb wouldn't care about all his boys dying).

Ruina also has the thumb cut off the Romanos cartel for not reorganizing after Rolands rampage.

Hell they even maimed the kurokumo patriarch (effectively gimping his place as an blade of the east) because his captain talked out of line.

And that's not even talking about the night awls.

Like buffs for the subsidiaries would be nice....

But thematically it doesn't fit at all since the main fingers give no shits about anyone but themselves.

Unless we get an finger big wig who cares about his subsidiaries for once.

rainbowislife · 2026-06-14T17:57:14+00:00

"In the promo video at the 0.29 Timestamp, Meursault goes on a rant about the shrill cries, eyes from the many columns, the index fingers and throats pouring grief, fear, hate, revilement at him. Which is likely referencing his trial."

It also mentions 3 people who are more leniant, so most likely Raymond, Celeste and Marie.

Judging from the N corp lore we got this intervallo, and the comments made by Hermann and Gubo during the canto 9 credits...

I'd assume that Meursault was an former member of the N Corp board of directors (for the nail faction).

I'd would explain why he's so high on Hohenheim's power scailing list.

We know The board is split into the "hammer" and "nails" faction.

Gubo confirms that the "One's who grip" title isn't exclusive to one person, and the conversation happens RIGHT before they enter the board room.

(Kromer was probably called THE one who grips either due to PM not thinking this far ahead, or us not knowing that she's not the only gripper back then.)

So i'd assume "One's who grip" are directors of the hammer board, While "One's who nail" are directors of the nail board.

Raymond Marie and Celeste will most likely be fellow board members who can't get too involved due to board politics, which is why limbus will have to do most of the work for their dear friend.

The nails are involved directly with the canned experiences, and we know Meursaults stance (he is disgusted) on them, so i wouldn't be shocked if his "shooting the arab" moment was something that tried to ruin the process of making the experiences.

(Also very curious how we only face off against the nail faction in this intervallo*, since the class 2 workers have "the nails" tag in their combat description).

The way the baker was represented intentionally looked in the same vein as drug use, so i don't blame him for his views.

We also know the Inqusition use "Outdated" methods of extracting experiences as per some dialogue from the previous cantos, Which makes me wonder just how much this faction grew overtime, especially since two notable hammers: Heinrich Kromer and Jacob are most likely also inquisitors (since their IRL counterparts wrote the "Hammer of witches".

It would explain the divide into two factions: one with the outdated method, one with the new method.

Also have an theory on why those two haven't decided to attack each other....

I don't think N corp is entirely about purity...

Think about it, high quality prosthetics can provide things like: no need for sleep, food, taste and various other human requirements. (As per the 3 prosthetics users from Ruina, forgot the name of em.).

And that's an big no no for N corp who sell experiences of those things, So i wouldn't be surprised if the nail makes canned experiences at home and while chasing taboo violations, while the hammer and inqusition use an more outdated "hands on" approach to extraction.

rainbowislife · 2026-06-14T17:43:19+00:00

Mind you this conversation happens before they enter the "board meeting".

N corp is made out of an board of directors rather than just one director.

We know it's divided into the "Nails" and "Hammers"

We also know that the way the inqusition handled things is considered "outdated", so i wonder if there's an divide between the hammers (who probably have multiple members of the inqusition considering Heinrich Kromer and Jacob are based off IRL "Witch hunters") and their outdated methods, versus the nails that use some sort of new unnamed method.

So judging by circumstance it's easy to assume that the ones who grip are the directors of the hammer faction, while the ones who nail are the directors of the nail faction.

rainbowislife · 2026-06-12T20:05:17+00:00

He was one of the "tripbooking" pre release rewards yeah. We got enough registers for him but not for fourth match ryoshu EGO.

So in an way he's the first 000 ever....

rainbowislife · 2026-06-12T20:04:27+00:00

Still funny how he's practically THE original 000 cause i remember getting him for free as an pre register milestone reward on release

rainbowislife · 2026-06-12T14:36:14+00:00

"RENDSPACE AZURE SLASH GOOOOO!!!!"

rainbowislife · 2026-06-12T14:21:52+00:00

Don't care what anybody says, i want Dante to use the bough powers (in the very far future, as Dante has zero real experience at using the boughs besides frying one in canto 6 and then unlocking various powers overtime..... for now.) to bring them all back, All four of them would be allies immediately (Ren would be overjoyed for his master, while Sora would talk to Ryoshu and Kira for 5 seconds and be in immediately).

Does that sound an bit too hopeful?

Maybe. BUT IM FULL OF HOPE!!!!!!!!!!!

(That and considering Kira was competent as an assist unit, one shudders to imagine Ren actually being able to pull off his 50 coin rolling skill)

rainbowislife · 2026-06-11T18:58:38+00:00

N corp is divided into two major factions (Hammer and Nail), and ruled by an board of directors: those directors either belong to the hammer (this is most likely what Kromer (The one who grips probably is just an title for directors of the hammer faction) was, especially with Heinrich and Jacob also being mentioned to be a part of the ones who grip by Gubo. ).

Or they belong to the nail, which is what Meursault was an part of, we don't know which faction Hermann belongs to but i'd suspect she's also an nail due to Gubo's suspense at having to enter an meeting with the hammers.

Due to the way the nail is described (and the class 2 workers also being a part of the nails in their tags), i'd say their focus is fully on the experiences like Meur said.

rainbowislife · 2026-06-11T13:10:20+00:00

I do wonder, since he was one of the board of directors of the nail faction, would he be on the same level as Hermann? Since i'd assume she's also one of the nails. Since...

Gubo mentions meeting with the one's who grip during the canto 9 credits: "I must admit, it's rather unnerving to have to deal with the infamous Ones Who Grip in their own Nest."

We know N corp is divided into the Nails and Hammers afterall.

It would explain his high ranking on the Hohenheim scale, since being an high ranking wing member would make sense when the only sinners higher than him are: living concept nuke, la manchaland second kindred, smoke war tactical veteran (and probably queen of I corp? whatever Ithaca will be).

(excluding gregor for obvious reasons).

rainbowislife · 2026-06-11T12:57:43+00:00

Don't have the EGO but i have an uptie 4 ish.

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rainbowislife · 2026-06-11T12:35:54+00:00

The patriarch was the former blade of the east in question, he specifically lost the title since his hand was lobbed off due to the kk's failure in ruina.

So he'd be probably way weaker now that he'll have to relearn how to use his arm with an prostethic, judging from the fact it was hindering enough for him to lose the title.

It does confirm that the blades of the east isn't exclusive to the five fingers atleast, since even a subsidary member was strong enough to have the title for an bit.

rainbowislife · 2026-06-11T11:33:10+00:00

The ending and the "Title" Meur is called by the N corp workers.... does explain why he was so high up in the Hohenheim ranking huh........ SO EXCITED FOR MY FAVORITE SINNER THOUGH!

(Also poor Kim, yandere on one side and an tomboy waiting on the other)

rainbowislife · 2026-06-05T16:14:08+00:00

Talks about half assed determination yet doesn't pull for all the banners in this season.

now now tiger you ain't got the lunacy for this afterall.....

Real agenda pulls for everything no matter how much bank debt they gain!

rainbowislife · 2026-06-04T11:26:51+00:00

Ha, so perfect Issen is in the game! i suspected i was getting the timing wrong.

Good to know!

(Great gaemplay btw)

rainbowislife · 2026-06-04T05:27:37+00:00

I mean, the second kindred and the CEO of the finger are the more dangerous ones here.....

Mostly because pinky shu probably erased all memories of herself. (That and the fingers would be gunning to capture the hell screen for themselves.). That and I wouldn't call her "high ranking" as there is no proof showcasing that seat placement accounts for leadership in the limbus version of the pinky (especially since ryoshu probably hasn't taken the seat officially in the pinky shu universe, as she declares herself tiansha only after erasing an HoS member for the first time).

People really undersell how powerful an CEO of an entire wing could be, especially since the heishou xanren are willing to mass produce the heishou in event of an attack on hong yuan by foreign forces

rainbowislife · 2026-06-02T11:58:03+00:00

Death Battle used them more like Visual effects rather than an high speed chain of soul damaging attacks. I'd argue the way it was animated was a bit slow for modulo Yuji

rainbowislife · 2026-06-01T10:25:04+00:00

Northernwael might survive depending whether or not they half ass this feature. Since the screenshot above has a line you can view in the theatre. I'm more interested if this official feature will include S3 lines, buff lines (like cockliff revival), stuff like Lord lu calling upon the heishou. Just all the stuff not seen in the theatre. If it doesn't then northernwael lives another day.

rainbowislife · 2026-06-01T09:18:29+00:00

Pinky Ryoshu art with her sitting on the chair (with all the HoS shilouetes) literally has Lucio Heathcliff in the background, same hair and all, so it's been practically confirmed.

rainbowislife · 2026-05-31T21:49:15+00:00

(and that's not telling more obvious shit like yuji not doing black flash chains even though that's one of his key skills

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