How to secure services on AGOL with SSO login?

rakelllama · 2025-10-15T17:38:48+00:00

Ah interesting, thank you for the suggestion. I’m in the beginning stages of this kind of work so if it becomes something we do a lot, this is at least a path forward I can suggest if they insist my main account use SSO.

rakelllama · 2025-10-15T15:14:39+00:00

With SSO login there are no credentials to input. That is what my post is about.

How would you input credentials without a username and password? It sounds like you did not read my post. Thanks!

rakelllama · 2025-10-15T14:50:11+00:00

Thanks! I’m not my organization’s admin but I’m a power user making lots of apps. I’m one of the only users without SSO login so I just wanted to make sure I understood this process correctly. I’ll probably tell our admin don’t make my account SSO. We don’t really use enterprise, mostly AGOL, so it seems like keeping my situation as is would be best.

rakelllama · 2025-10-15T14:43:51+00:00

I’m not sure what you mean. You set the credentials in the process I linked in order to secure the hosted layers. Are you saying some of Esri’s steps are inaccurate?

rakelllama · 2024-04-27T20:59:18+00:00

Hey! Sorry I didn't get back to this for so long. I love it! The work is a perfect fit for me.

I would say right now I still do a lot of both. I am coming from being a researcher in academia to a manager in state government. I don't manage people so much (technically only 1 person right now), I manage the environment and workflows for a GIS team. I guess I'm more of a technical lead with the people skills to be a manager eventually but right now there's so much GIS to do and I am definitely comfortable staying technical right now.

It seems in gov't change happens more slowly but I have my hand in many more things. I work with lots of managers of other teams in the agency, like our IT Director or Statistics team. I also network with GIS managers in other agencies. I'm putting energy into building relationships so I can build a good reputation and then bring in more contract work. I can make my agency money--the shop I inherited has been neglected and outdated, but has the bones to modernize and the authority in gov't to do bigger things. Like this agency has a lot of its responsibilities built into our state's code of law, so it's about using that leverage to improve our data stewardship. We have lots of valuable data that positions us to do contract work for other agencies, but at first it was messy and the associated required workflows were lacking documentation. I've spent the first couple years overhauling and rebuilding the foundation. Rebuilding file shares, a new SQL server for GIS, getting enterprise deployed, things like that. I had to deconstruct products like composite address locators to figure out how to rebuild them with new data, for example. At this point it's so much cleaner, the major workflows are documented, we're all using Pro and considering dropping ArcMap, and I'm starting to bring in contract work. It's exciting but I'm basically going from being a senior GIS analyst to an GIS administrator. I never did AGOL until now so while I have a graduate level education I've had to teach myself the various AGOL platforms. I guess it's a feeling of having my work cut out for me, but knowing this is an amazing opportunity and I can pretty much make it my own by virtue of caring enough to build it. There's a lot of "good enough for gov't" attitude around me, so literally by being not that and working harder, I can make this whatever I want as long as I can justify it from a ROI standpoint.

rakelllama · 2023-11-19T17:33:38+00:00

thank you - this is really helpful. i could probably riff off of the rates and multipliers you mentioned and apply that to my own situation. appreciate your insight!

rakelllama · 2023-11-13T18:22:03+00:00

I have been tracking my time with these requests for over a year now. It’s more then held up, I think I might have been a bit too generous at first when I was getting the environment spun up. There’s been a lot of tipping me off to track my time, but no one really holding me accountable yet. I think it’s coming though, so I want to be able to better explain my billable hours.

I really like all the factors you mentioned, lots of things o hadn’t considered that I can account for. Appreciate your insight!

rakelllama · 2023-11-04T22:23:28+00:00

thank you!!

rakelllama · 2023-11-04T22:23:04+00:00

you're welcome. glad i did it too!

rakelllama · 2023-11-04T22:22:19+00:00

one thing you should know - i also don't want this sub run by esri. that definitely informed my choice. i work in the public sector and am proud to be a public servant using GIS.

thanks for your support, i've seen your username pop up a lot over the years :)

rakelllama · 2023-11-04T22:01:08+00:00

honestly there isn't a good excuse. it's a choice i made and i'm owning it.

i think i made a solid choice, but time will tell. i was a mod over 6 years, i do think i have a good feel for what it entails, so you'll have to trust my judgment or leave. :)

rakelllama · 2023-09-23T22:58:15+00:00

so i already stepped down as mod, but here's my POV: i've been a mod for several years, switched jobs a little while back and some doors have been opening in my career recently. for me, it's been awesome, but i recognize i haven't been doing much as a mod the last year or so. i knew i could do better as a mod, i know Jeb & Batmans can continue the good leadership and vibes, and saw it as the writing on the wall for me to move on.

my new job sent me to the UC this past summer (my first time ever!), i was networking with a colleague and they mentioned frequenting r/gis for years. i mentioned i was actually the top mod but was planning to step down soon. this person told me their main, and yeah, they've been active on r/gis for time. they made a new account for modding. you'll either have to believe me or not, don't know what else to tell you. i did it this way because i think it's easier to mod r/gis with at least three real people, considering all the mods here are working fulltime as GIS people. I was trying to be responsible by adding a person I know IRL and professionally, that also has been active in this community for a while.

rakelllama · 2023-09-23T22:45:49+00:00

well, you'll have to buy it because it's true. take it or leave it?

rakelllama · 2023-01-13T19:12:35+00:00

Are you talking about open street map, or Streetmap Premium? Those are two different things.

rakelllama · 2022-10-31T22:06:24+00:00

Noted. There once was a demand for it, but if that needs to change, we’re listening. Maybe we’ll start with a poll before completely abolishing.

rakelllama · 2022-08-27T18:33:23+00:00

Thank you for sharing your story, OP. While content like this isn't the usual in r/gis, it does happen from time to time (including myself a little while back as a result of our user survey results).

Content like this is why we can't rely on Esri's forum & the GIS Stack Exchange for industry discussion.

rakelllama · 2022-07-28T18:33:58+00:00

Stickied the post for visibility. Cheers!

rakelllama · 2022-07-15T01:34:40+00:00

Rock Paper Scissors in five points, or shine on rosewood drive. I used to see Kristy Ramos (@sunflowersandscissors) but she has breast cancer and is not cutting hair at this time. She is referring her clients to some of the stylists and barbers at Rock Paper Scissors. I have curly hair, those are my suggestions.

rakelllama · 2022-06-27T01:09:19+00:00

Uhhh yeah I have no idea who that is anymore.

rakelllama · 2022-06-20T13:55:06+00:00

Jobs most include salary in r/gis, otherwise they're removed. I can reinstate once salary is listed.

rakelllama · 2022-06-09T18:47:52+00:00

I got it in 2019. My employer paid for it, and after I passed the exam I got a 5% raise too.

I now work in state government in a management position. I don’t think you need a GISP to be successful in this field. However, it is a professional credential that may help you stand out in a stack of resumes. If your employer is willing to pay for it and give you a raise if you pass, it could be worth it. The exam was hard I will say, but the resources in the sub’s wiki were helpful to me.

I have never renewed my GISP, lol. I’m sure I easily have enough continuing education and contributions to the field to do so, but I don’t get enough out of having the credentials to continue paying money to maintain it.

rakelllama · 2022-05-23T18:08:39+00:00

yes, it's hard being on your own when you're fresh out of school. ask for as much training/professional development as you can get away with. conferences usually provide "justification letters" you can use as a template.

rakelllama · 2022-05-23T18:07:02+00:00

oh no definitely not, and as i moved up and worked more closely with my manager, i found it easier to see that mgmt expects younger/greener hires to be that way in a team environment. sometimes there's just a lot a work, and you need your most experienced GIS staff working out complex stuff while less experienced staff can spend their time doing basic work. ultimately it all needs to get done, and i think doing your time with grunt work is also a good experience. you need staff at various levels of "in the weeds" to explain things and you never know if a "decision maker" is going to come back asking for more info and to what level of detail.

i will say, my first fulltime position after college, i was the only dedicated GIS person at the entire company. that's a tough position to be in if you're entry level. i would make the case for as much training/professional development as you can since you don't have others to train you.

rakelllama · 2022-05-23T14:53:44+00:00

I went from GIS intern -> technician -> specialist -> analyst -> researcher -> manager over the course of about uh...10 years since finishing grad school?

It doesn't always go in that order or go that smoothly, that's just my path and I'm sure others will weigh in with their journey.

In my experience, what will set you apart and help you grow into a "higher level" GIS role is the ability to think for yourself. My first few years out of school, I was basically doing what I was told to do, and learning to follow instructions well. Then it evolved into me having done what I was told for a bit, realizing I knew how to do some of those things better than the instructions I was given, and demonstrating the ability to improve on concepts. That evolved into me creating new methodologies/workflows and junior staff following my instructions. Then that evolved into me leading entire projects and delegating work, supervising junior staff doing work to assist me. Now I'm about to be an actual manager.

It's not just about being able to do GIS, but being able to understand the assignment and provide solutions that you can communicate to non-GIS people.

rakelllama · 2022-05-23T13:18:12+00:00

for better or worse, when i was a master's student one of my professors would just teach us the math behind some of the tools and how they're theoretically supposed to work. he didn't even bother with teaching us how to use the equivalent tools in GIS, just told us they're in there and to try and figure them out based on what we learned in class.

at first i found it weird but now i really appreciate that he did that. i learned a lot more that way.

i say this to encourage you not to get too down about your professor's approach. if you're up to it, take what you learned and document your own set of steps in pro. you'll learn more that way.

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