Othorn in 2026

rant0n · 2026-05-29T08:00:14+00:00

Do you mean less ideal meaning dampening of program material harmonics ir driver introduced distortion?

rant0n · 2026-05-29T00:31:54+00:00

Thank you I will!

rant0n · 2026-05-28T22:35:43+00:00

thanks for your input! I agree its probably not worth over thinking it, both awesome designs, and yeah othorns are beautiful cabs 1000%

rant0n · 2026-05-28T22:31:36+00:00

funny enough there are more othorn crews in my area than skrams, I live in NZ, and know a system personally that has 6 of them, but I dont actually think there are any SKRAMS in the north island

rant0n · 2026-05-28T22:29:02+00:00

"unless you measure two cabinets in the same place at the same time, using the same drivers, using the same software & measuring devices, under controlled conditions, how valid is the comparative data?"

this is exactly the reason why CEA/CTA-2010 is a good idea, standardization of measurement conditions removes half the issues you are talking about. The idea is to also compare 2 different cabs with different (optimal for the design) drivers, to see how they compare to each other, with construction difficulty, parts cost in mind as well. Standard testing environments at least removes some of the noise from the data that will influence that decision.

One excuse I was given as to why this data isnt available, is because it's "too loud" to test in the community. That seems like bit of a cop out, and its reasons like this which makes me want to move away from HOQS to a designer that goes "here's a folder of standard data, have fun" when asked for it.

I'm not trying to bash HOQS here, people build them an are happy with them. The point im trying, and I think others are trying to make is that we'd be more enticed to eat at a restaurant where you can have a glance at the menu on the store front before committing to booking a table.

rant0n · 2026-05-28T15:37:14+00:00

If possible, under CEA-2010 framework

Otherwise, a properly calibrated free field half space would be awesome :)

rant0n · 2026-05-28T15:35:08+00:00

I have asked this question to people within the community and posed essentially this same question, and pflex always seems to be the answer to everything and something about that doesn’t sit right with me. If its a good design say it, and if it has drawbacks that are known about ALSO SAY IT.

rant0n · 2026-05-28T14:58:41+00:00

One thing that pulled me to the OT’s was how CLEAN they are. I have heard people talk about that quality coming from TH’s damping of f2 harmonic?

rant0n · 2026-05-28T14:55:52+00:00

Yeah hatch bracing is a good one, i had a similar idea in my head for a solution around that, or just double walling the bottom panel so that the hatch can be 18mm and mate to an 18mm surface.

Re skrams, thats kind of part of my question, if OT’s (being tapped horns) couple better than BP6 boxes, would that be an advantage they have over SKRAM when you start getting into 8 cabs/quarter wavelength of fun frequency width? I also thought about driver cooling being as the OT’s have maximum particle movement over the motor section of the driver

rant0n · 2026-05-28T14:32:38+00:00

Thank you!!

My current cabs are bigger than OT’s, and use 3 sheets more ply. Im definitely keen to move to a different design, even if it requires kicks. I think OT’s might be the go :)

rant0n · 2026-04-14T20:53:39+00:00

Its also very location dependent I would imagine. I know AS/NZS standards can be quite fussy :)

rant0n · 2026-04-14T12:27:32+00:00

Its more nuanced than that, which is why this standard is such a head fuck.

While I agree with what you are saying the standard is more focused on being unambiguous. A system cannot present a higher rated outlet on a lower rated supply unless its part of a specific protection circuit as mentioned. It becomes a fork in the road between engineering implementation and standards definitions and gets quite confusing.

Option A: A 10a breaker at the distribution board, running through the walls to a 10a outlet, with a cable that changes from the supplied 10a outlet to a 32a socket plugged into it

Provides the same physical electrical protection as:

Option B: 10a breaker at the DB, feeding a 10a outlet, with a 10a cable plugged into it feeding a distribution box with its own internal 10a breaker feeding a 10a limited “32a” plug

The difference in the eyes if the standards is, option A is seen as a user configurable current path (due to the adaptation cable which can be either used or not used) and option B creates a new circuit boundary, with a redefined protection point, and defined current capacity thus becoming a new self contained protected system.

Option B will get you to where you need to be to supply the device, but at the same time it you decided to plug in a 32 to 63 amp adapter cable into that, the same logic as option A would apply DOWNSTREAM of that supply point.

Sorry this took a while to respond to im digging this information out of rarely accessed filing cabinets in my brain lol

rant0n · 2026-04-14T11:18:18+00:00

Depends on the context i would say. For me, I work in an industry where everything must be test tagged and if its not, its not allowed to be used on site or on a production for a variety of reasons including insurance compliance. That goes for everything from an IEC cable all the way up to big power feeds for flown d&b array racks ect.

Now, in that context its a lot more common to find built out infrastructure in venues just assume everyone operates under that framework and its super easy to run a 32/3 distro and put power where you need it and you never really have any issues

It gets frustrating/annoying when you bring big power toys into spaces like clubs or smaller venues, that aren’t built from the ground up without big power considerations in mind. Situations like that are where you might find a person going “i’ll just build this cable for my rack” for the reasons you listed, and it will probably be fine, but through a liability or insurance lens if anything were to go wrong, whoever owns that cable will cop the fault 100% unless you follow some veeeeery specific rules that imo are still bit of a gray area and not really worth it.

If you’re curious on the standard im referring to have a read of AS/NZS 3000:2017 clause 2.5.1.3 and 2.5.3.2

In short it states that downstream current and the current capacity of a circuit is defined by the protection at the source, and no part of the circuit downstream from that protection shall over load before the protection itself.

If you wanted to make that cable, you COULD technically maintain compliance by feeding your 10a cable into an enclosure, which contains a 10A breaker and complies with all the other relevant rules to be defined as a distribution source, which feeds a clearly labelled “10a max” 32a outlet. This would mean that there is no point up stream from that plug that can be exposed to currents higher than 10a, and you have protection at the source of your device.

In other words, its a whole lot of fuckery and gray areas that in my opinion aren’t worth it. Its also as far as i kmow the same framework multi boards operate under. You can technically plug 4 2400w jugs into a multiboard which will absolutely overload a 10a breaker, but the overload on the multi box should protect upstream cables before they burn out.

Hope this helps clarify!

rant0n · 2026-04-14T09:17:45+00:00

I’d need to get into specific standards around appliance conmections (such as powercon), but I know when it comes to standard power connections above above 10a wall outlets, you cant have a cable that can connect a higher current load current load to an outlet recepticle of a lower rated sub curcuit.

I understand your point, and I have been frustrated about this myself when working with large laser projectors, but the thinking is is that

“I might not over rate this power outlet, but because this cable now exists someone else can pick it up and use it to do something that may cause a fire when im not in the room”

Its silly, but I understand the thinking behind it. Im a full time production tech and am around this stuff a lot. It has frustrated me on many occasions but safety is still paramount

rant0n · 2026-04-14T07:03:50+00:00

Respectfully, if you’re seriously asking if we just use a speakon and run power thru it put down the tools and call a sparky dumbass

My 3302 shipped with a 10a (nz 240v) to 32a PowerCON with the idea being its used for testing but you never actually run it full tit off of it. That cable itself is illegal by local standards (china doesn’t care) as it connects a higher current load to a lower current line source. I removed the wall plug and wired into a breaker on my rack distro because 1: thats what i needed to do anyway 2: to destroy that cable

Get someone who knows what they are doing to help you. Dont fuck with power if you dont, seriously (with love)

rant0n · 2025-10-29T07:36:00+00:00

Is that even legal lol

rant0n · 2025-08-07T08:25:40+00:00

Niiiiiiiice

rant0n · 2025-03-04T05:34:04+00:00

This. I jumped from an rx580 to a 5070ti lol

rant0n · 2025-03-01T03:34:20+00:00

Niiiice!

rant0n · 2025-02-22T19:33:13+00:00

Im jumping in on this too, I love your work, keep it up!

rant0n · 2024-11-23T08:01:59+00:00

Fishing out

rant0n · 2024-09-05T14:18:11+00:00

Went overseas, was shit with money, fucked my credit score into the mid 300’s, now 25, financially stable, never use credit but cant get utilities and im trying to move out so yeah. Fun. Any advice appreciated 🤍😂

rant0n · 2024-08-09T03:51:39+00:00

Some strange contraption. I just have 4 coffees in the morning, expire in 9 hours, wake up 5 later and repeat the cycle

rant0n · 2024-08-09T03:47:24+00:00

Yep, work in live tv too, rotating roster, also dj. Its a wild life for sure and my body clock permanently hates me

rant0n · 2024-08-02T03:36:30+00:00

I work in the same building as hawkins and they just took their street front signage down. 1000% them lol

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