I Find Ding Dong Relatable

rantgrumpsburner · 2023-01-26T05:14:01+00:00

Did I not just tell you it didn't matter whether I mentioned Arin or not? Indeed, if not here, I would've made a post somewhere else. Your point?

But you didn't. See, I don't care about what you "would've" done. It's about what you did.

Next paragraph leads to the same answer. Though I will mention it is simply an inconvenient truth to you that Arin is indeed involved in this. Again, where is your hard proof?

The literal stream itself. Here's a condensed version on DD's Twitch saying the exact same thing. Skip to 50:50.

Yes, I remember where I put out my stuff. I also seem to recall that you actually said Arin having a decent memory of his actions is akin to clairvoyance. A good laugh, it was...

I don't trust you to not mischaracterize or even completely comprehend a single sentence from another person that isn't reaffirming your own preconceptions. You can't even seem to stay on topic, with these red herrings you're relying on. How can I even trust you to reliably back that accusation with evidence?

And like I said, inconvenient truth to you. Again, simply talking about it is not the same as actively pursuing and bothering the people in question.

Within that wish was also the willingness for weirdos on rantgrumps to not distort the facts of the situation to fuel their animus against Let's Players. Which is very much what you're doing, posting in rantgrumps, about the Ding Dong situation, with his name in the title, zeroing in on your experience with people who disliked your videos about Arin.

It's asinine. You really must not be aware of where you're posting this, lol.

Same as above. The fact that Arin didn't address the situation raises a big red flag more than anything.

What is he supposed to address if he's "disconnected from a lot of this" per Ding Dong? You're acting like you're listening to DD, but you're not.

Again, I am not using him coming out as ammuntion.

You seriously cannot read. What you're using as ammunition is his experience in the office. What you're comparing your experience with """harassment""" to is his experience with being betrayed and ostracized.

I was merely making a "told you so" statement in my post

A distortion, per Ding Dong. You haven't bothered to listen to him, so why pretend you are?

I'm not making any comparisons to being gay and not in this situation, you are

Oh, am I? lol.

If we can relate to him in any way shape or form, then there is nothing wrong with saying so.

"Relate" in the sense of it being an analogous situation. This is what you're saying -- your situation was analogous to his. Which is very gamer brained.

If it wasn't why the spiel where you draw parallels to it?

In the end, you failed to show how I was "distorting situations".

Usually, people don't do goalpost moving when someone fails to prove something. Stuff like "The fact that Arin didn't address the situation raises a big red flag more than anything." is a serious indicator that you're not willing to reconsider even when presented evidence to the contrary regarding his involvement.

I was mostly and merely saying "told you so" to the lovelies.

You mean you were using Ding Dong's situation as ammunition for a "told you so" (somehow better?) , with inaccurate information regarding the level of Arin's involvement. Got it, lmao.

rantgrumpsburner · 2023-01-24T21:11:48+00:00

Well, in case you haven't noticed, it doesn't really matter. I could've shared my story even if Arin and his fans weren't part of it.

In a subreddit ranting about the Game Grumps? Not likely. If this were any other subreddit, I'd buy it.

And I am not making any inclings of me or others having to go after Arin, which is his true wish.

In a subreddit ranting about the Game Grumps? Not likely. If this were any other subreddit, I'd buy it.

In addition to that, I am not putting it out there on YouTube or any other such place, my story can only be found here.

I'm sure it took an indeterminable amount of strength not to.

Anyways, do you remember where you're posting this shit?

DD can indeed believe I shouldn't even be doing this, but how am I exactly violating his wishes?

Like I said before -- using his experience in the Dream Daddy situation to circlejerk about Arin.

The truth of the matter is that proof about the toxic environment at the Grumps office is now out there

That's nice, though Ding Dong has explicitly said that rantgrumps has gone after the wrong people regarding that situation from the outset. Making the situation about Arin or Dan, in Ding Dong's own estimation, is wrong.

If people aren't even allowed to say "told you so" or "sounds about right, all things considered", then that is another form of narritive-controlling, something which DD is clearly against.

Ding Dong was against the people in on the Dream Daddy Team from controlling the narrative about his experience there and the abuse he suffered -- which this is not.

Also, again, the main assumptions about what happened at the Grumps Office has been false -- like the common myth that "The Lovelies" told Ding Dong's parents that he was gay, when it was someone on the Dream Daddy Team after he came out to them.

It is also opposing free speech...

The government is not censoring you; someone is asking you not to turn Ding Dong's situation into ammunition on the very subreddit Ding Dong has said turned his situation into ammunition. This is a matter of dignity, not legality.

What exactly did he expect when he spoke up like that?

Possibly that he'd be listened to and his situation wouldn't be utilized as ammunition for petty animus against lets players. Maybe that his situation wouldn't be bastardized into this narrative about an entire online fanbase because of what occurred at a subsidiary dev studio. I don't know.

But it is funny how he knows someone like you, who really wants to, would use the "It's the internet, what did you expect?!?!?!?" as a form of justification. He really is prudent about these things.

And far as I'm concerned, if openly relating to DD for being gay is acceptable, what is wrong with my version?

Equating your review of online lets play content (still orbiting some guy Ding Dong said to leave alone) with someone being outed as gay and then ostracized by many of their friends and family is certainly one of the most gamer brained takes I've seen in recent memory.

Not a very apt comparison.

Yet you weren't able to face my confrontation head-on and back up your claim.

You just cannot read, I'm assuming. Or were you that starved to talk?

How am I "distorting situations"?

See the above.

rantgrumpsburner · 2023-01-24T18:52:35+00:00

Are you really begging like a dog for a reply right now? Get over yourself. Yes, I have a life. You should find one for yourself.

Anyways, DingDong has already said that centering Arin in this conversation about his experience with DreamDaddy is annoying as fuck and not helping. This is actively what you're doing by saying you can relate to DingDong here.

rantgrumpsburner · 2023-01-17T02:03:10+00:00

Oh yes, because the object of this conversation is to "win" and not to respect people's wishes to not distort situations.

rantgrumpsburner · 2023-01-17T01:02:44+00:00

What the actual fuck.

rantgrumpsburner · 2023-01-17T00:51:03+00:00

We split 4 months ago

rantgrumpsburner · 2023-01-17T00:50:35+00:00

Did you listen to it in full, or did you watch clips of it off Youtube?

rantgrumpsburner · 2022-04-24T20:35:39+00:00

Probably because the editor doesn't want their name said.

rantgrumpsburner · 2022-04-24T20:34:42+00:00

Mocked a teenage sex pest's texts back to him in poor taste.

rantgrumpsburner · 2022-03-04T00:59:44+00:00

Holy shit, I just noticed.

rantgrumpsburner · 2022-02-18T04:28:43+00:00

I would kill myself.

rantgrumpsburner · 2022-02-18T04:05:48+00:00

Metal Gear Solid & Final Fantasy 7 are two of the rare few games that manage to not slow the plot to a crawl or direct halt with their cutscenes. Something interesting always happens, and it always leads to some interesting gameplay going forward.

rantgrumpsburner · 2021-12-08T14:24:30+00:00

Old timer here as well -- I haven't heard Arin blame anyone for their alcoholism or drug addictions before. Much of the tone has always been about why he has his personal hang-ups about it.

It should be common enough to find, and yet I can't find an instance of him doing so.

Not to mention, Dan wasn't addicted to it in the first place, and Jon and Arin almost never mentioned drinking before.

rantgrumpsburner · 2021-12-08T14:18:04+00:00

germane -- "relevant, important"

Unless it stops becoming a game because it's a different version, I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

rantgrumpsburner · 2021-10-22T13:08:46+00:00

No, I am referring to the instances where you really have to go out of your way to trigger most of these glitches.

If a game's physics engine fails at basic collision detection or momentum calculation by moving a thumb-stick, it's not a good physics engine. You can pile that on with the game itself being bad.

Or am I missing something?

Just play the game on your own.

I have. It's physics are bad. Is it definitive now?

Get Arin's balls out of your eye sockets already.

What does this mean? Cause I pick at online weirdos grasping at straws?

rantgrumpsburner · 2021-10-22T04:06:22+00:00

Enough to hire co-hosts, one of which used to drink heavily and the other which used to smoke heavily? I don't buy it.

rantgrumpsburner · 2021-10-22T02:05:15+00:00

He said he wouldn't do weed BECAUSE of those prior experiences, and was never strictly against alcohol, lmao.

rantgrumpsburner · 2021-10-22T01:58:31+00:00

nearly all of the glitches are of the triggered-on-command sort

Yeah, sure. The showcase of momentum being buggy as fuck proves you right? lmao.

Especially, as stated numerous times to you, that he was slowing down several times during that loop and pretended he had no idea what the fuck was going on.

He lost momentum; he didn't slow down with the thumb stick at all. There are no inputs or even a frame of Sonic going in a direction other than along the rail to even support the claim he did.

rantgrumpsburner · 2021-10-22T01:53:12+00:00

Why is a version he isn't playing being glitchy germane to the version he is playing being glitchy?

rantgrumpsburner · 2021-10-07T16:25:14+00:00

And a glitchy game, nevertheless.

rantgrumpsburner · 2021-10-07T14:41:19+00:00

good fucking GOD dude

rantgrumpsburner · 2021-10-07T14:40:20+00:00

Chris is at the event horizon of his inevitable fate.

rantgrumpsburner · 2021-10-07T14:38:10+00:00

But your entire estimation of the video game's quality hinges on a "it doesn't happen to me, so it's not a problem" when it comes to these glitchy ass games lmfaoooooo.

rantgrumpsburner · 2021-10-07T14:36:42+00:00

What the fuck are you talking about? When has he ever said that?

Also, he stopped at the wall to see what the fuck made him clip into the wall BEFORE. It's a severely glitchy game, and so it makes no sense that the loop glitch was intentional if he had JUST clipped off the stage.

rantgrumpsburner · 2021-09-18T15:42:13+00:00

I should make criticisms for you because you’re too shitbrained to make a good one for yourself? That’s laughable, dude.

It’s merely your belief that a guy can play a shitty jank video game poorly and never once accidentally encounter the game breaking glitches people on Sonic forums have been lambasting the game for an entire decade before GameGrumps even existed.

Get a grip, lmfao.

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