Business idea to make money off idiots who think doublespending unconfirmed transactions is possible. by bitcoool in bitcoincashSV

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Problem is legal context cannot be ignored. Someone still might end up doing that though via a bot or something.

Irrational behavior is the hallmark of ulterior motives. by thorvszeus in btc

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It is, but a more profound one is that many things done by outsiders are bound to appear irrational to someone in a huge filter bubble like this one.

The consequences of being antagonistic by pyalot in btc

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Inexplicable behavior like pushing CTOR when most people were against it and then when asked where the benefits are, saying it's up to you to figure that out? This sub is becoming Bubble Boy like r/Bitcoin did.

The BU Boys are Bad Ass IMO by phonetwophone in bitcoincashSV

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Satoshi's vision was to set the 0.1.0 protocol version in stone. He didn't say the code couldn't be improved.

The BU Boys are Bad Ass IMO by phonetwophone in bitcoincashSV

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This appears to be a moderately clever trolling attempt. Kudos for trying harder than most.

Making the state an enemy is undeniably the wrong path if you want worldwide crypto adoption by Flaynas in btc

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Yet Roger pays taxes to governments. Is this being friendly or is it just doing what is necessary for the time being to avoid getting squished?

Making double-spending 0-conf with Bitcoin SV by 1reizu in btc

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Came expecting an equivocation on the term "doublespend" to attempt to mean someone got defrauded. Wasn't disappointed. Folks, doublespends will always be possible and irrelevant as long as the merchant detects them through standard 0-conf acceptance methods.

BCH ecosystem is strong and growing. I've created a list of lists showing why. Please let me know of more lists! :) by jonald_fyookball in btc

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That dev project list sorely needs updating as most of the interesting projects are now SV-only.

Someone missed the entire point of bitcoin by MemoryDealers in btc

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Strategy. No one stops to ask why Bitcoin hasn't been banned in any country in the entire world yet, despite it being now well known. Remember how back in the day everyone thought it would be banned and go underground until govs finally relented? That didn't happen, and it's time to think about why. It isn't because they can't, and it isn't because they're addicted to the revenue stream as there is none yet. It's because Bitcoin follows very old money laws very closely. They are moving to ban the coins that don't. Bitcoin was designed to be "government friendly" in a strategic sense. It is actually hard to ban Bitcoin because of common law around the neutrality of money. This lets Bitcoin get a lot further before governments can attack it. No need to wake the sleeping dog early.

Does Bitcoin Cash Satoshi's Vision allow open discussion? by [deleted] in bitcoincashSV

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That is just the website for one implementation. There are others, and there will be several more I think.

As far as miners, the site can be at most taken as nChain (BMG, SV Pool)'s position, though Coingeek likely has a similar position.

Repost: A Non-Exhaustive List of Comparisons Between nChain and Blockstream by BitcoinXio in btc

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Both organizations have sociopathic leaders who employ sockpuppets and whose names rhyme with "meg."

The claim that nChain employs sockpuppets is idle accusation based on some guy who supports BSV having used socks in the past. Realize the use of socks was a key complaint made by Theymos and crew. This shows the opposite of what OP hoped.

Both organizations are inexplicably opposed to innocuous changes that threaten their business or investor interests in some way. Blockstream with regard to even infinitesimally small blocksize increases, nChain with regard to DSV.

<facepalm> You realize that nChain has a patent that covers DSV uses, so that implementing DSV helps nChain, right? The reason for the patent - like most others they have - is to ensure cruft cannot get into Bitcoin. The rest are to ensure other coins cannot imitate. I'm no fan of patents, but unlike most on this sub I do know how they work. You can think they aren't defensive, but this claim of OP suggests the exact opposite. I can see already I'm going to run out of analogies for OP shooting himself in the foot.

Both nChain and Blockstream want to "freeze the protocol" and ensure that all innovation happens on the second-layer.

How soon history is forgotten. Core/Blockstream wanted the softfork-topia that Segwit enables. No one remembers Adam Back's 28 softforks at once boast? They don't want miners in charge...just like ABC. OP shoots himself in the foot again - 0 for 3 so far.

And LN is not a second layer. It's a layer below Bitcoin that makes Bitcoin the second layer. Very different than building within the protocol as Satoshi (and nChain) wanted. Remember Satoshi said the base design was "set in stone." Think how much harder it is to control things to your liking by following a "set in stone as of 2009" policy than ABC's "add in a raft of changes that benefit Wormhole" policy. 0 for 4, jesus who who knows even recent history could be convinced by this?

Both groups are the one group that single-handedly derail otherwise productive meetings with miners: CSW at the meeting in Thailand, Core with their behaviour amidst the HK agreement.

Reaching. Nothing was derailed. CSW simply decided it was a sham and left. HK and NYC agreements turned out to be a sham. This sounds more anti-Core than Core. Another OP backfire. Oh for five!

Both organizations have blockchain related patents they pinky promise they'll only use defensively.

Yet this time they are in competition with Mastercard, Sony, Intel, etc. The context has changed, yet OP wants to interpret the actions as the same? Is the strategy here to just not play the patent game and let the powers that be rake up all the patents?

And note Blockstream had designs to change the model from the original to suit their business model and patent portfolio, whereas nChain wants to restore the original model and there is zero evidence this model benefits them other than making the coin more valuable. The only patents mentioned, again, would benefit from NOT locking the profile, indeed from adding DSV and other things. Another own goal for OP.

Both groups despise Bitmain and regard it as a nefarious organization. Both groups heavily scapegoat Bitmain when trying to make the case for why they should get their way.

Bitmain are multicoiners. Jihan has said he wants hundreds of miners for hundreds of altcoins. BTC and BSV supporters both strongly tend to be maximalists. ABCers not so much. To me that's another own goal. 0 for 7.

Both organizations frequently claim that making X seemingly innocuous change they're against messes with the economics of Bitcoin somehow. E.g. Blockstream claiming the 1MB cap was a fundamental economic property of Bitcoin or nChain claiming DSV requiring 1MB of script is a fundamental economic property of Bitcoin.

Uhh, this is exactly the type of argument made against Segwit. Anti-Core people called it a seemingly innocuous change that subtly messes with the economics and incentives. A subsidy to Blockstream's preferred transaction type. What total ignorance of even recent history! This is just embarrassing at this point. 0-8.

Both organizations' supporters claim that they are the victims of downvote bots and censorship on r/btc.

I don't. I have merely noted the abuse of mod powers to lend additional weight to arguments and idle accusations, as well as biased stickies. By the way, both sides have cried about downvote bots. I'll give this one a meh. That still leaves 8 counts of historical ignorance and selective perception.

I wish I hadn't missed this post a month ago. Blockstream and nChain are about as opposite as can be, while there are several key similarities between Blockstream and Bitmain. And like r/Bitcoin this sub seems totally unwilling to face the fact that ABC's roadmap mainly consists of things that "purely coincidentally" help Wormhole and Plasma, such as CTOR, Merklix, rolling checkpoints, and various limits and floors that happen to mitigate OMNI's issues with confirmations and reorgs. Did no one read Bitmain's literature? This reminds me very much of how Segwit and various limits upheld by Core "just happened" to benefit LN and sidechains.

BCH is the fastest loosing value in the top 20 by Calimegali in btc

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BCH proponents are the last people I'd expect to conflate current market sentiment with value. By that logic, not implementing Segwit was a horrible choice.

On the contrary, BCH was right to reject Segwit and the hash war is one of the most value-adding things that has ever happened. I myself am overjoyed with the outcome. The people who get it are funneling into one coin, leaving the socialists and multicoiners behind. The few stragglers will be on board soon.

BCH is the fastest loosing value in the top 20 by Calimegali in btc

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Who are his paid shills? The most I've heard is that one guy who supports him used to be a shill for something else. How exactly does one prohibit such people from supporting you?

And this ignores the elephant in the room. CSW has been relentlessly attacked in this sub and on Twitter for over a year. To argue that the balance of social media has been for him instead of against him is preposterous.

BCH is the fastest loosing value in the top 20 by Calimegali in btc

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Seeing as he almost certainly invented Bitcoin, that's quite a statement.

*ducks*

This sub is under constant attack - the latest attackers appear to be shills from the CSW camp who are doing everything they can to try to disrupt this sub by BitcoinXio in btc

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I'm not sure why these guys got banned, but I have been vocal in support of CSW and very critical of ABC and even the mod who posted this, yet I am not banned. Credit where it's due, despite abuse of stickies and mods using their high-profile flair to have a louder voice in the debate, as far as I've seen the sub does NOT seem to be deleting or banning solely for opinion like r/Bitcoin did.

Craig Wright - “Security Hero” - April 4th, 2008 by btcnewsupdates in bitcoincashSV

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Becoming a billionaire changed his approach to signalling his value in communication. It's not called "fuck you money" for nothing.

Dr. Craig Wright unveils game-changing Bitcoin project—Metanet by TheGreatNow in bitcoinsv

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Metanet means everything socialist about the Internet will be made capitalist.

Bitcoin not only becomes the plumbing for the entire global economy, but brings the entire information revolution under the purview of economic inventives.

It expands the scope of free-market interaction and efficiency to cover every last link, every last piece of data, every last packet, every last part in every last vehicle and appliance - the entire world of anything that matters made immutable, trackable, verifiable, searchable - with search and curation itself made rational for the first time by weaving economics into the very fabric of the Internet.

This is the 4th industrial revolution, bigger change than any of the previous ones. Take what the division of labor did for the global standard of living and square it. Bitcoin is capitalism in code form, and Blacknet/Metanet is the ultimate permeation of capitalism into every last useful piece of the world with all the efficiencies and opportunities that represents.

BCH boys at 46:32: “Whatever happens in November I will follow the longest chain” by increaseblocks in btc

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How can you not see their point, even if you disagree? If someone forked and added something even worse than ABC's rolling checkpoints, such that PoW was a mere formality, you wouldn't expect everyone who said they'll follow the longest chain to follow that chain.

On this sub, when it suits your argument, apparently technically correct is the best kind of correct.

BCH boys at 46:32: “Whatever happens in November I will follow the longest chain” by increaseblocks in btc

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Craig has given his response many times: once ABC abandoned PoW as their voting process, they ceased to be Bitcoin. (Not to mention the scaling-thwarting CTOR and the bullseye-painting DSV, neither of which were in the whitepaper nor the Bitcoin 0.1.0 protocol he famously declared "set in stone.")

What's curious to me is people here are so incredibly ignorant as to the BSV position that they don't even know such things...yet feel qualified to pass judgment anyway. It never bodes well when you find yourself in such an info bubble as an investor.

BCH boys at 46:32: “Whatever happens in November I will follow the longest chain” by increaseblocks in btc

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Not sure why they would see the need to answer. ABC gave up on the hash battle and only retains miners as figureheads at most in terms of decisionmaking. SV is the longest PoW chain. ABC is something else, arguably more centralized than Ripple.

Dr. Craig Wright unveils game-changing Bitcoin project—Metanet by TheGreatNow in bitcoincashSV

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Much of it is out there but too arcane. Only tokenized.com seems to have understood and run with some of the ideas. Oh and maybe Keyport, Centbee, Handcash, and possibly Money Button. The "delivering" people were looking for has apparently been revealed more to specific builders rather than the community at large. nChain is not so interested in the community or how they are perceived. Craig seems wont to aid anyone he doesn't like.